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Proc damage works like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_A6fmEqsLM
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Jastiger posted:Question: It does 25 % damage of the elemental type against a 25 % of the dr. e.g a weapon that deals 10 slash damage and has + 25 % burn damage. will deal the following damage: enemy with 8 dr: 10 - 8 = 2 slash damage + 2.5- 2= 0.5 burn damage, total amount: 2.5 enemy with 8 slash dr and 6 burn dr: 10 - 8 = 2 slash damage + 2.5- 1.5= 1 burn damage, total amount: 3 If you would crit with the weapon( + 50 %(not sure if it's still 50 %, but it's easier to calculate with 50 %)): enemy with 8 dr: 15 - 8 = 7 slash damage + 3.75- 2= 1.75 burn damage, total amount: 8.75 enemy with 8 slash dr and 6 burn dr: 15 - 8 = 7 slash damage + 3,75- 1.5= 2.25 burn damage, total amount: 9.25 prometheus12345 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Mar 15, 2015 16:37
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So, how exactly would you build the pirate-style rogue now that Dexterity works, Sensuki? I figure you could sacrifice a few points from Intellect to Dexterity so that once you run out of guns you can do a decent job with a secondary weapon like a bow.
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Leinadi posted:Brandon Adler said this on the OEI forums: I think you might be misinterpreting. He didn't say we'd be able to download anything early, just that backers will be able to grab stuff from the backer portal as well as whichever digital distribution provider we choose.
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prometheus12345 posted:It does 25 % damage of the elemental type against a 25 % of the dr. I had not realized it worked that way. Though it makes sense since it'll allow lower or higher DR ratings from the base to still influence the lash damage. Its easy to miss this is you only test against uniform DR ratings.
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Mar 15, 2015 16:43
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Rope kid, please make Sensuki into an NPC in the expansion.
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Mar 15, 2015 17:17
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Roguelike posted:Nope. The whole accuracy thing is needlessly complicated.
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Mar 15, 2015 17:19
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prometheus12345 posted:It does 25 % damage of the elemental type against a 25 % of the dr. So the value % (25% in your example) applies to both the base damage as well as the DR against the base damage (Slash in your example) unless there's a DR specific to the effect (that'd be your second example, where the Burn DR is lower than the Slash's)? Because in your first example the Burn damage is 2.5 (25% of 10) but the DR is 2 (25% of... the DR?) Sorry for the dumb questions, math is hard.
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Mar 15, 2015 17:22
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Ferrinus posted:There's no such thing as a +3 grimoire or +5 wand or w/e that lets a wizard or cypher's spellcasting advance the same way as a fighter or rogue's fighting does?
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Mar 15, 2015 17:23
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Thanks for the weapon explanation! Is it possible to bypass DR?
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Mar 15, 2015 17:23
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Raw damage ignores all DR. Some weapons specifically negate a portion of DR (e.g. stilettos, estocs).
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Mar 15, 2015 17:25
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rope kid posted:Raw damage ignores all DR. Some weapons specifically negate a portion of DR (e.g. stilettos, estocs). I like the fact it's called raw because it makes me think of this straw-haired surfer dude named chad watching my every move and going DUDE THAT DAMAGE WAS SO FUCKIN RAW
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Mar 15, 2015 17:29
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Does every type of damage besides raw have its own specific DR?
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Airfoil posted:I think you might be misinterpreting. He didn't say we'd be able to download anything early, just that backers will be able to grab stuff from the backer portal as well as whichever digital distribution provider we choose. Whoops, yeah. Now that I'm re-reading it, what you say make sense. Well, now I'm mad I won't get to see the goodies tomorrow! It never ends...
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SurrealityCheck posted:I like the fact it's called raw because it makes me think of this straw-haired surfer dude named chad watching my every move and going DUDE THAT DAMAGE WAS SO FUCKIN RAW 
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Mar 15, 2015 18:14
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rope kid posted:What's complicated about it? I think my biggest issue is that it's not consistent or intuitive or fun. In a game where might gives a damage bonus to everything, it seems like that sort of simplicity might extend to other mechanics, but it doesn't. Spellcasters having a separate accuracy formula that isn't displayed on their character sheet is complicated. Weapon bonuses don't apply to it but shield penalties do. Most, but not all spells giving +10 accuracy is both complicated and a source of endless spell description errors. Returning Storm lists no accuracy bonus and has no accuracy bonus. Concelhaut's Corrosive Siphon lists no accuracy bonus, but is actually +15. Searing Seal lists no accuracy bonus is actually +41. It's bugged, but I have no idea what Searing Seal's accuracy is supposed to be, there doesn't seem to be any relation between a spell's power/purpose and its accuracy. And in the end, there's no payoff to understanding any of it. Almost never is the difference in accuracy enough to consider using one spell over another, it would change very little (besides being a slight buff to Ciphers) if the spell accuracy were formula were modified to give +10 and all references to accuracy were removed from spell descriptions.
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I do agree that how non-weapon-based abilities' (it's not just spells and not just for spellcasters) Accuracy works would be better if it were derived more consistently. I don't like the data-driven approach because it can result in a lot of odd bugs.
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Mar 15, 2015 19:08
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Eej posted:Please tag your post with Trigger Warning: Ligatures next time. Thanks I was looking for a new thread title
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Mar 15, 2015 19:15
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Is there an up-to-date place to read about the different class mechanics, character options and such? Someone said the wiki was no longer accurate.
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No access to the BB here, any good youtubes of the latest build in action??
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Mar 15, 2015 20:53
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Basic Chunnel posted:I think we may have to face the possibility that PoE will ship containing mechanics that can be laboriously exploited 2 pages back, but I really want to say: how can you have a spiritual successor to BGII any other way?
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ikanreed posted:2 pages back, but I really want to say: how can you have a spiritual successor to BGII any other way? How dare you suggest that BGII was anything but a perfect gift from the gods for all future games to judged against and found unworthy!
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:How dare you suggest that BGII was anything but a perfect gift from the gods for all future games to judged against and found unworthy! All the cheese in it just adds to some wabisabi style perfection
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Mar 15, 2015 21:40
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:How dare you suggest that BGII was anything but a perfect gift from the gods for all future games to judged against and found unworthy! It wasn't perfect but how many other games from 15 years ago still have active threads here?
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Mar 15, 2015 21:47
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Ratios and Tendency posted:It wasn't perfect but how many other games from 15 years ago still have active threads here? I'd blame the audience mentality, not the quality of the game, to be honest.
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Drifter posted:I'd blame the audience mentality, not the quality of the game, to be honest. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Basic Chunnel posted:Basically. RPG nerds tend to replay the same games endlessly. Plus the IE games have gotten a number of Enhanced Editions over the last few years. Plus it's a D&D game so you'll have various active discussions pertaining to rules and editions and the like. Plus it's from a major RPG developer so the thread will invariably stay alive as someone drops in to complain about them in some capacity and people will take it upon themselves to summarize every bad decision they ever made and then others will come in to defend or pile on, etc. DA: Inquisition's thread will be undying 15 years from now solely on the strength of how hard spergs get when they think about how much they dislike Sera There's no way most any of us will be replaying Inquisition in 15 years though. Unless we're still trying to finish all the sidequests. Edit:vvv I played it about 4-5 times. But never again. There's nothing left to do and the main drive behind that game for me was the story and choices, which ended up not really mattering. evilmiera fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Mar 15, 2015 22:16
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There are people on this forum that have played Mass Effect 2 multiple dozens of times.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:It wasn't perfect but how many other games from 15 years ago still have active threads here? Deus Ex.
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The Sharmat posted:There are people on this forum that have played Mass Effect 2 multiple dozens of times.
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Mar 15, 2015 22:26
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Asses aside, ME2 just hits some pretty loving fun notes. I've played it three times over the years.
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Drifter posted:Asses aside, ME2 just Whenever I hear about that topic I have the same-old reaction about how people are alright with mass-murder and occasionally some kind of scifi planet-destroying specie-cide but OH NOES A BOOB!
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Mar 15, 2015 22:38
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Please quietly and gently close back that particular Pandora's box. E: FRINGE posted:I didnt play any of the ME's, but did anyone actually stop playing them because of asses? 'Murica 
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Mar 15, 2015 22:39
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It's probably the longest game that I've completed every single mission for and explored the gently caress out of everything more than once. Except maybe ME1 if that clocks in longer.
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Mar 15, 2015 22:40
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Nuh-uh, nope, not going there.
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Mar 15, 2015 22:40
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The retro FPS megathread makes the IE thread look like young whippersnappers. 
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Furism posted:Pandora's box. 
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The Sharmat posted:There are people on this forum that have played Mass Effect 2 multiple dozens of times. I don't think there's a content-based game good enough to have me replay it dozens of times, but ME2 is legit excellent.
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On the other hand, it is not good at all.
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FRINGE posted:Say what now? If it's got breasts but a full body suit and mask you can safely assume it's a man in there.
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