JakeP posted:

As Harold Krells attorney I object to this question. That was the old Krell before he died. The new Krell does not necessarily share the same motivation as the previoius Krell, and therefore the answer to this question is MOOT!

flatluigi posted:

i'm going to laugh if you have no relation to krell rolewise in this game and are just being a dickwad to be a dickwad

Jose Valasquez posted:

Also, if you don't think Mafia is primarily a game of manipulating peoples emotions then

GulagDolls posted:

why isnt everyone voting krell voting for asiina. she has been demonstrably worse

JakeP posted:

I didnt say it isn't I just said a good mafia player doesnt let their emotions control their game

Kumbamontu posted:

what exactly is a wad of dicks

JakeP posted:

or emotional players are bad I should say

Lid posted:

Mods i'm starting to feel really loving uncomfortable over Lumpen's use of his children. This is unrelated to the game itself, this is just loving creeping me out and I'd like a ruling.

Mods here both applies to the game mod and the forum mod honestly.

Kumbamontu posted:

what exactly is a wad of dicks

Lumpen posted:

Geez man, lighten up. I'm proud of my awesome adorable kids and this is a fun party game in which people often post raps and drawings and other things they make related to it. I took one minute out of our tea party in the yard to grab a 15 second clip on my phone, and took one minute to have them hold a sign I doodled before we went out to brunch yesterday. It seemed like a cute, funny idea. The SA Mafia community has always been a cool bunch who I can be Facebook friends, do Google Hangouts and docs with, and meet up with in real life. What's your problem?

My daughter knows that I am not actually going to die, and has played games in which your character "dies" before. She likes to play Minecraft with me and is not even scared of zombies, but is scared of Endermen.

If you are feigning offense/concern as Scum, you have hurt my feelings

Lumpen posted:

Geez man, lighten up. I'm proud of my awesome adorable kids and this is a fun party game in which people often post raps and drawings and other things they make related to it. I took one minute out of our tea party in the yard to grab a 15 second clip on my phone, and took one minute to have them hold a sign I doodled before we went out to brunch yesterday. It seemed like a cute, funny idea. The SA Mafia community has always been a cool bunch who I can be Facebook friends, do Google Hangouts and docs with, and meet up with in real life. What's your problem?

My daughter knows that I am not actually going to die, and has played games in which your character "dies" before. She likes to play Minecraft with me and is not even scared of zombies, but is scared of Endermen.

If you are feigning offense/concern as Scum, you have hurt my feelings

Lumpen posted:

She likes to play Minecraft with me and is not even scared of zombies, but is scared of Endermen.

Lumpen posted:

Geez man, lighten up. I'm proud of my awesome adorable kids and this is a fun party game in which people often post raps and drawings and other things they make related to it. I took one minute out of our tea party in the yard to grab a 15 second clip on my phone, and took one minute to have them hold a sign I doodled before we went out to brunch yesterday. It seemed like a cute, funny idea. The SA Mafia community has always been a cool bunch who I can be Facebook friends, do Google Hangouts and docs with, and meet up with in real life. What's your problem?

My daughter knows that I am not actually going to die, and has played games in which your character "dies" before. She likes to play Minecraft with me and is not even scared of zombies, but is scared of Endermen.

If you are feigning offense/concern as Scum, you have hurt my feelings

Lumpen posted:

Geez man, lighten up. I'm proud of my awesome adorable kids and this is a fun party game in which people often post raps and drawings and other things they make related to it. I took one minute out of our tea party in the yard to grab a 15 second clip on my phone, and took one minute to have them hold a sign I doodled before we went out to brunch yesterday. It seemed like a cute, funny idea. The SA Mafia community has always been a cool bunch who I can be Facebook friends, do Google Hangouts and docs with, and meet up with in real life. What's your problem?

My daughter knows that I am not actually going to die, and has played games in which your character "dies" before. She likes to play Minecraft with me and is not even scared of zombies, but is scared of Endermen.

If you are feigning offense/concern as Scum, you have hurt my feelings

Jose Valasquez posted:

Find one post Krell has made since coming back that makes you legitimately think he is going to be an asset to the town in any way, or even just something that makes you think he won't be an active detriment to the town.

Harold Krell posted:

Hmm... This truly is a challenging game.

On the one hand, there are different specifying votes which would imply that some people may be putting their hat in the ring for unstated reasons. Likewise, there may never be such a better time to follow through on such accusations, so it would be to our benefit to understand the underlying conflict at hand. That being said, I think it would be most opportunistic to relay the information to others who couldn't be able to vote today as it would be a boon to town to find such parity among all players. The mafia won't be able to challenge a force of number so large, so they may as well vote more cynically in order to persuade non voters into giving up future votes. The fact that we have only seen a mere sliver of the voting outcome bodes well for them, so they might as well go through with this plan (if they're smart that is... ). Anyways, I would really doubt any attempt to coerce power roles into activating said powers since it is too early to determine a false start at this point in the game. In fact, I haven't even noticed a power role despite the large amount of players involved, some coming up with any type of pretense for it would be a moot point anyways. I have to admit though, it was particularly smart for town to vote in droves rather than keep scum at bay through sheer will of conflict. Conflict will only get you so far in the mafia metagame after all, so why even bother using it in the first place? On that note, I've notice the recent conflict that occurred has all but died out as of the moment, so maybe it would be beneficial if others could inform us on their opinions about this. After all, would you want to stand out in the game if you were scum? I wouldn't think so . It's just the beginning of the game, so I really don't have all the answers to all these connections yet, but I know that because of the peculiar aspects of this game, there is an incredibly good chance that we'll be able to see a clue of scum in the very near future. I would suggest to everyone, both town and scum, to keep an eye on this "clue" as their interpretation of said clue will be able to shed more light on power roles and their resulting actions very very soon .

Now, you may be wondering why I would endorse the scum team based on that statement, but rest assured, I am simply doting over the massive player base in order to collect as much information as possible. I know I've been wrong on this before, and most people don't trust me based on that fact, but for any other doubters out there, ask yourself this: If you were scum but knew of town power roles, would you (honest to God) withhold these interests to yourself even if the game depended on it? The point I'm trying to make is that people can be right and wrong, but what doesn't make them objectively right is hunting out for scum players only to get nipped in the bud later on. I've seen this type of play dozens of times before and guess what? It never works! That's the whole point of coercive voting. It's to find a driving vote divide among town and scum and using power role abilities to enhance town's weigh in the matter. The last game I saw that was actually able to achieve this successfully were able to out scum in only two days and secure the win in four. However, that isn't to say that this type of strategy is without consequence. I've seen at least a handful of people who tried to make an attempt like this, only to lynch the wrong person by day 3 and ultimately throw the game in the long run. Yeah. I get it if you think luck plays an important part in a game like this ( and it OBVIOUSLY does, if you didn't already know)., but I would say around 66.6% of the "luck" that is actually instituted in this game is based on psychological response from weaker players. To endorse their vote is to put town in ruin, which is why I suggest against such a strategy. Rather, we should all be able to handle each case based on our own experiences and be able to cast a vote that way. As long a scum doesn't know the town strategy, we should be able to thin their numbers by at least half by day 5. Barring that, I don't see a reason as to why anyone would vote against those lines even if you happened to BE scum, but that's probably getting away from the point entirely.

Anyways, the entire point of this strategy is kind of like "live and let live", but I'm not going to force anyone to do this. In the end, it really is all up to you, the voter, to cast your decision on whether or not you think someone is scum, so as long as you consider your power role in the matter, then at least you'll be well on your way!

JakeP posted:

JakeP posted:

Jose Valasquez posted:

That is a bunch of words that say absolutely nothing.

flatluigi posted:

if you actually read any of that instead of going "wow cool that's a bunch of words" you'd realize it said absolutely nothing except "people should try to vote correctly"

GulagDolls posted:

thats good advice in my opinion

JakeP posted:

just makes me wanna get up and scream GO TOWN GO!

quote:

Now, you may be wondering why I would endorse the scum team based on that statement, but rest assured, I am simply doting over the massive player base in order to collect as much information as possible. I know I've been wrong on this before, and most people don't trust me based on that fact, but for any other doubters out there, ask yourself this: If you were scum but knew of town power roles, would you (honest to God) withhold these interests to yourself even if the game depended on it? The point I'm trying to make is that people can be right and wrong, but what doesn't make them objectively right is hunting out for scum players only to get nipped in the bud later on. I've seen this type of play dozens of times before and guess what? It never works!