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Opopanax posted:So? You can't be suspicious of someone who isn't already under suspicion? Me tooing is now 100% a scum tell, Ernie just told us so. Rurea posted:Eccos thing was bullshit hth. I wanted to believe.
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Byers2142 posted:Because...? because they're arguing from a position of weakness against everyone not on their side they're actively convincing everyone of their position, instead of arguing everyone else down from suspicion the reason scum don't overdo the first is because when they flip it's easy to see who isn't on their team based on how they tried to overcome that person's logic. the second one is ambiguous because it could be bussing! that's my reasoning. 
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Mar 21, 2015 23:05
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Ernie, what do you think of Ecco?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:07
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Little Mac posted:byers, what do you think of Ecco? I think you're coming off as worse, honestly. Tell me why Ecco is scum, maybe I agree. Just say she's scum over and over, and it looks like you're trying to purposefully dig a tunnel using a garden hoe.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:07
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Ernie. posted:because they're arguing from a position of weakness against everyone not on their side Just to make sure I understand, you're saying it was so bad and the defense has been so devoid of logic that they have to be scum?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:08
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Byers2142 posted:Just to make sure I understand, you're saying it was so bad and the defense has been so devoid of logic that they have to be scum? i'm saying mixing it up is what scum tend to do because their role mechanics necessitate it! the shotgun method of convincing any and everyone is something scum instinctually avoid.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:09
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Ernie. posted:i'm saying mixing it up is what scum tend to do because their role mechanics necessitate it! the shotgun method of convincing any and everyone is something scum instinctually avoid. Because he's responding to everyone, he's not scum?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:10
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I invite other people to look at yuming. This does not read like a town yuming.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:12
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Little Mac posted:Blame yourself. Or God. I love you for this post.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:13
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Byers2142 posted:Because he's responding to everyone, he's not scum? you're still missing the details of the argument byers when you're scum, why don't you instinctively answer any suspicion against you with the words 'yes, i understand your viewpoint, but you absolutely positively must unvote me'
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Mar 21, 2015 23:13
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Byers2142 posted:I think you're coming off as worse, honestly. Tell me why Ecco is scum, maybe I agree. Just say she's scum over and over, and it looks like you're trying to purposefully dig a tunnel using a garden hoe. I did already! Ecco is scum because she deliberately caused confusion among the town in an effort to either get attention off herself before she abandoned the thread for a day OR in an effort get someone else lynched. There's no conceivable pro-town reason for her to lie about Rurea scum-claiming and then ninja editing ("He then scumclaimed but quickly retracted it."). It's so easy to hide behind jokes that a strong player like Ecco can do scummy things during jokephase and people will ignore it but I think that whole "page 9" thing pings me as scummy. I would also vote Opop, who jumped on KB immediately after Ecco called him scummy for fence-sitting (which is stupid) but then also proclaimed to have not read the thread.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:14
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EccoRaven posted:nah that's dumb, if I were scum I wouldn't be doing anything like this. I would be playing it smooth, trying to lead the town rather than make hilarious jokes about space-time. HOLY poo poo ##Vote EccoRaven
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Mar 21, 2015 23:15
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Byers2142 posted:I invite other people to look at yuming. This does not read like a town yuming. Well, scum yuming doesn't post at all, so
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Mar 21, 2015 23:16
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Byers2142 posted:I invite other people to look at yuming. This does not read like a town yuming. Is your argument 100% meta? It looks like it to me. I don't like those cases. I have zero read right now on yuming.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:16
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Also Ecco is super scummy to me right now. Space/time joke, doesn't like rolling startEccoRaven posted:##vote ernie broke rolling start Also, I actually found this kinda suspicious early on, even though it was joke phase. EccoRaven posted:I'm glad you did that because it was scummy as heck but me doing it would be "oh gosh ecco such OMGUS let me vote you instead!" which is very dumb but alas. Far too concerned about pre-explaining actions. And that previous, "If I were scum..." I feel strongly about this case.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:19
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The vote on Ernie is not scummy in fact all votes on Ernie in all games are actually inherently townie regardless of alignment
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Mar 21, 2015 23:21
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Byers2142 posted:Killing randomly is a townier move than a targeted kill? How is that even remotely true? KB was suspicious, I'm not sure why people keep calling this a random vig. It was a good shot. ##vote Ecco On board with this, the aloofness looks scummy to me. Sorry ernie, hope it's ok that I agree with people
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Mar 21, 2015 23:28
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Ernie. posted:you're still missing the details of the argument byers Maybe I'm missing it because that's what I do as scum when I can't out-logic a case.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:32
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Votecount for Day 1  EccoRaven (3): LordVorbis, Ernie., Poison Mushroom, Shark Mafia (2): Max, Ghostly Gangsta, LordVorbis, Ghostly Gangsta (2): yuming, Max Rurea (1): Byers2142, EccoRaven, Little Mac, LordVorbis (1): Ernie. Poison Mushroom (1): HiipFire, EccoRaven, Little Mac, Poison Mushroom, Ernie. (0): EccoRaven, Byers2142 (0): Poison Mushroom, Not Voting (4): Poison Mushroom, Poque, Rurea, Shark MafiaWith 14 alive, it's 8 votes to hang. The current deadline is March 24th, 2015 at midnight EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 5 hours.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:32
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Byers2142 posted:Maybe I'm missing it because that's what I do as scum when I can't out-logic a case. your posting restriction isn't helping 
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Mar 21, 2015 23:34
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LordVorbis posted:Is your argument 100% meta? It looks like it to me. I don't like those cases. I have zero read right now on yuming. Yes, it is, and usually I'm right there with you regarding meta. But in this case, yuming's aggressively attacking someone she spent all of the game that just ended defending, excusing Rurea's shot altogether, and calling Shark 3P and not voting. That doesn't line up. Little Mac posted:Well, scum yuming doesn't post at all, so That's Asiina, not yuming. yuming's lack of posting is usually LoL induced,
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Mar 21, 2015 23:35
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Ernie. posted:your posting restriction isn't helping I don't have a posting restriction?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:35
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Byers2142 posted:I don't have a posting restriction? then why are you so antagonistic?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:36
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yuming posted:##vote gg This you call "aggressively attacking?"
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Mar 21, 2015 23:36
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Opopanax posted:KB was suspicious, I'm not sure why people keep calling this a random vig. It was a good shot. Shark killed the person who answered his query, that's not a shot targeting KB for his play.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:36
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Ernie. posted:then why are you so antagonistic? ...what?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:37
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Little Mac posted:This you call "aggressively attacking?" Yeah, a vote to make him explain is overly aggressive. A vote is an attack. Especially given everything else in the game, that stands out.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:38
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Eh, I don't see it, man.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:38
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Byers2142 posted:Shark killed the person who answered his query, that's not a shot targeting KB for his play. shark's personal take on the matter is: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3707593&pagenumber=8&perpage=40#post443019603
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Mar 21, 2015 23:39
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am i the only one who sees byers posting completely differently from his normal self?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:39
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Ernie. posted:am i the only one who sees byers posting completely differently from his normal self? I'm interested in answers to this as well, actually. Am I?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:42
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Byers2142 posted:Shark killed the person who answered his query, that's not a shot targeting KB for his play. The question is would he have killed anyone who answered the question or was that coincidence? And if he would just kill the first player to answer how does that make sense as a scum power or play
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Mar 21, 2015 23:48
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Let's go away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbZk-Ar6a6w
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Mar 21, 2015 23:50
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I don't know what kind of game Ernie is playing, but it isn't a town one. Sorry, Ernie.  ##vote Ernie
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Mar 21, 2015 23:56
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Poison Mushroom posted:I don't know what kind of game Ernie is playing, but it isn't a town one. i can't defend against this...
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Mar 21, 2015 23:59
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Opopanax posted:KB was suspicious, I'm not sure why people keep calling this a random vig. It was a good shot. Go re read what happened. It wasn't targeted. Anyone could have been caught in that trap that killed KB. Do you understand that?
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Opopanax posted:The question is would he have killed anyone who answered the question or was that coincidence? And if he would just kill the first player to answer how does that make sense as a scum power or play I think it's accepted that the phrase was rigged to kill whoever said it. No one would have if Shark hadn't asked that question. Why are you defending Shark so much?
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Mar 22, 2015 00:18
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Max posted:Why are you defending Shark so much? Because I had my vote on KB and I'm glad it went down the way it did.
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Mar 22, 2015 00:20
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Byers2142 posted:what I explained it later. Excuse the brevity for now. I'm gone posting.
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Opopanax posted:Because I had my vote on KB and I'm glad it went down the way it did. You're glad we lost town?
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