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No I mean I know how she plays and don't know how most of you play. I know she constantly plays like five concurrent mafia games here so I'm sure you're all familiar with her style also
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Max posted:This is a terrible argument. Shrug. It's the truth. As for the other bit I'm sticking to my guns about that, I know you disagree
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Mar 23, 2015 19:10
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Shark Mafia posted:Shrug. It's the truth. Fine. I do think Vorbis is an atrocious choice over Ecco, I'm hoping you at least see that.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:17
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Clearly I do not see that, no. whether he is actually a good lynch besides being better than ecco remains to be seen I don't think lynching her (ecco) will be an issue because she'll pretty much be the default lazy lynch if we don't have anything else good. That's what being a non-town known quantity gets you. There is no pressing urge to dispatch her, and the people who are voting her don't have to justify themselves well, so why do it?
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Mar 23, 2015 19:23
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Mod Note: I literally woke up to make that post and did it while still in bed; I intended there to be flavor specifically about the challenge resulting in that anonymous vote, yes.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:26
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I was actually OK letting ecco go until this post: EccoRaven posted:Hey Hiipfire instead of being a lovely poster you should vote Lord Vorbis with me. I know I just promised Poque I'd look into you tomorrow if he joined, but if you vote LV with me I promise my review will be very charitable and make the benefit of the doubt. Also, obviously the oath thing, which is unsettling. I also have a problem with this: EccoRaven posted:also for the record I am totally and completely and absolutely comfortable with any and every investigative role in the game targeting me whenever and however often they like; nothing they discover would contradict anything I've said so far or would ever say this game. I just don't see Ecco really working for the town and we'll have to get rid of her eventually, which gives her no real incentive to actually help.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:32
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it's taking a lot of willpower to not shout "I CAN CONFIRM ECCO'S ROLE" and hammer but I know she's gonna flip what she claimed so bump that. that said I don't understand the case on Vorbis at all besides "wanting to vote out a 3p" which like 6 or 7 or all of us have wanted to do at some point during this day anyway
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Mar 23, 2015 19:32
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Okay so actually my big issue with voting lordvorbis is that ghostgangster is voting for him, and I don't like that guy's posts.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:34
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Poque posted:it's taking a lot of willpower to not shout "I CAN CONFIRM ECCO'S ROLE" and hammer but I know she's gonna flip what she claimed so bump that. Just do it
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Mar 23, 2015 19:34
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Max posted:I was actually OK letting ecco go until this post: That post was a joke based on the one right before it! Max posted:Also, obviously the oath thing, which is unsettling. Why? Even she has admitted it's a crappy thing to do but she's okay doing it here because it's rare for her. Max posted:I also have a problem with this: What's she's doing is intentionally saying whatever she can to fulfill her win condition with the least amount of effort. How are we playing to the town win condition right now by playing the easiest and safest possible vote? D1 is immensely valuable because it's painfully obvious later in the game who really was okay with interacting with any and all players organically and naturally with no pre-information, and who wasn't. We're wasting it now. Additionally, Ecco has actually cased LordVorbis! That's one more case than most people voting for her have provided the thread.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:35
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Poque posted:it's taking a lot of willpower to not shout "I CAN CONFIRM ECCO'S ROLE" and hammer but I know she's gonna flip what she claimed so bump that. Please do just confirm it.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:35
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hey shut up we're having *a discussion* here why you trying to end the day early ##vote rurea
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Mar 23, 2015 19:35
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Poque posted:that said I don't understand the case on Vorbis at all besides "wanting to vote out a 3p" which like 6 or 7 or all of us have wanted to do at some point during this day anyway read vorbis's posts in context and ask yourself if the tone he maintains is because he's townie or because he's scum going 'BEEP BOOP THIS IS HOW TOWN WOULD INTERPRET THESE POSTS, MUST BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH'
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Mar 23, 2015 19:37
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I misread that statement. Do not confirm by hammering.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:37
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Ernie. posted:read vorbis's posts in context and ask yourself if the tone he maintains is because he's townie or because he's scum going 'BEEP BOOP THIS IS HOW TOWN WOULD INTERPRET THESE POSTS, MUST BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH' that's exactly what I said about ecco earlier though after her pre-emptive "here's why arguments that haven't been made will be bad" earlier. i will re-read him though. Max posted:I misread that statement. Do not confirm by hammering. 
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Mar 23, 2015 19:39
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I thought you were softclaiming and were going to claim something. I didn't realize you were just saying you would hammer.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:41
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if only. but i don't think it merits confirmation by fire at this point.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:46
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Reading Vorbis in context I don't really see anything out of whack. I like that he recognized PMush's weirdness as not being scummy instead of trying the easy copout of "this is strange ergo it is scum" that we see too often. And imo his questioning on Ecco felt a lot like mine, we just arrived at different conclusions and I can't fault him for that.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:47
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what if pmush is a lyncher and she has to kill me?  it would be amazing if she's transposed her role onto me as her only contribution of worth in this game
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Mar 23, 2015 19:48
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flatluigi posted:[[ (sorry, I slept in) ]] Slacker. Ernie. posted:does anyone really think Ecco of all people would put her honor on the line as a lie? Her honor as a Tully? Yeah, I'd say telling a lie would fit that, and I think Ecco would absolutely be the type to hide behind that distinction.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:49
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i haven't actually listened to the flatluigi posts from earlier. are they relevant to the game? i never click youtube or vocaroo thingies in mafia games because I figure it's just people bullshitting around with music
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Mar 23, 2015 19:50
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Poque posted:i haven't actually listened to the flatluigi posts from earlier. are they relevant to the game? i never click youtube or vocaroo thingies in mafia games because I figure it's just people bullshitting around with music the brass youtube video was particularly cool the vocaroo things are honestly too robotic sounding to make sense Byers2142 posted:Her honor as a Tully? Yeah, I'd say telling a lie would fit that, and I think Ecco would absolutely be the type to hide behind that distinction. byers, i don't know where in this game we're going off in different directions, but your 'if you claim it later ecco i won't believe you' was a coercion mechanic that ecco flippantly decided not to follow until too late that doesn't mean that all the underlying logic of why policy cuddling 3ps is a bad idea has gone away!
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Mar 23, 2015 19:52
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Shark Mafia posted:Okay so actually my big issue with voting lordvorbis is that ghostgangster is voting for him, and I don't like that guy's posts. Let tell me tell you about a little thing called bussing
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Mar 23, 2015 19:53
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Okay so yeah ghostlygangsta, the guy who makes me uneasy about vorbis. I don't like his posts. Look I even quoted some, how helpfulGhostly Gangsta posted:Precariously fixed to and part of the flesh of a great man, I observe. Always watching. Always listening. Like the mammalucco of the year. First he votes me and that's fine but he doesn't actually justify himself in the post. Later he attempts to justify himself and seems to be concurring with max's view of it? I find that suspicious because as has just been established max was misinterpreting the sequence of events. Anyone that latched on to his train of thought and agreed with it clearly wasn't looking/trying very hard! Ghostly Gangsta posted:##unvote Then he quotes another person and switches to byers. His main justification for doing this is that he 'agrees' but then he takes a sentence to preemptively defend himself and acknowledge that 'oh I've been switching my votes a lot.' Feels self conscious to me I don't know about you guys Ghostly Gangsta posted:I don't know your "meta" so I can't attest to whether or not it's not how you normally act, but you read scummy to me. Kind of all over the place, aggressively, but not sloppily and then honing in on a vote once the bandwagon started rolling. Then whoa ho lordvorbis vote because 'I feel the same.' See this guy seems kind of like a low-effort low-profile hanger-on and I don't like that. so yeah he's a decent vote I'll vote him here goes (ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIKE WHAT RUREA JUST DID MUCH STILL) ##vote ghostly gangsta
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Mar 23, 2015 19:56
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Opopanax posted:Let tell me tell you about a little thing called bussing too late im committed to this train of thought. its a radical train
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Mar 23, 2015 19:56
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I feel you on GG and he pretty much posted the quinesential newscum.txt here:Ghostly Gangsta posted:Fair assessment, probably true too. I figured it was D1 and I had some time to be silly/absent. I mean I don't have any good reads on anyone at the moment and out of the actions made by ecco, rurea and shark, I feel shark to be scummiest in motive.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:01
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Ernie. posted:byers, i don't know where in this game we're going off in different directions, but your 'if you claim it later ecco i won't believe you' was a coercion mechanic that ecco flippantly decided not to follow until too late Yes, it has, because the logic was based in the discussion that town and 3P can work together. Ecco shows no signs of working with town, and has an action. She's anti-town at that point, and you don't purposefully leave an anti-town player in the game.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:01
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Byers2142 posted:Yes, it has, because the logic was based in the discussion that town and 3P can work together. Ecco shows no signs of working with town, and has an action. She's anti-town at that point, and you don't purposefully leave an anti-town player in the game. she has cased lordvorbis simultaneously with me when i did it she's done this while being at the brunt of all the momentum in the thread
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Mar 23, 2015 20:02
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Essential. Me can't type gud.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:03
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i feel if GG was scum that post would be 'Yeah, I feel shark is bad!! ##vote shark. lol lol olo i'm sneaky' Specifying that they find Shark worse than someone else is information that newbie scum would tend to be wary of giving away (lest one of the other two flip scum ... or all flip town).
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Mar 23, 2015 20:05
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Ernie. posted:she has cased lordvorbis simultaneously with me when i did it Vorbis is attacking her. It's self-preservation.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:05
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Shark Mafia posted:Okay so yeah ghostlygangsta, the guy who makes me uneasy about vorbis. I don't like his posts. Look I even quoted some, how helpful You lead a town to their death and I'm the scum? Get real. Also I have a bad feeling about Max. I don't know his "meta" and I think "meta" reads are somewhat ridiculous, but he seems overly aggressive with his witch hunt. In regards to my absence, the game exploded on the weekend. I got stuffs to do, I mean I'm at work now and definitely have stuffs to do, but that time mostly belongs to my boo or weird obligations. 
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Mar 23, 2015 20:05
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"I don't have any good reads on anyone at the moment" has always been the clarion call of new scum in my mind.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:06
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Byers2142 posted:Vorbis is attacking her. It's self-preservation. so is everyone else and the case '___ is lazy and hiding behind a 3p vote' is an easy one to make she didn't take the easy route out
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Mar 23, 2015 20:06
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Max posted:"I don't have any good reads on anyone at the moment" has always been the clarion call of new scum in my mind. maybe but then they gave their reads and newer players are always incapable of keeping up because our forum culture isn't ingrained in their head yet Ghostly Gangsta posted:You lead a town to their death and I'm the scum? Get real. this is bad on the other hand, it's grandstanding
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Mar 23, 2015 20:07
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Ghostly Gangsta posted:Also I have a bad feeling about Max. I don't know his "meta" and I think "meta" reads are somewhat ridiculous, but he seems overly aggressive with his witch hunt. It's true you wouldn't know much about Meta since you're new. Please don't conflate with aggressive with scum though, that's going to throw you off. But seriously, it was a scummy post.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:07
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Ghostly Gangsta posted:You lead a town to their death and I'm the scum? Get real. Shouldn't a bolded 'get real' justify saying something else instead of immediately switching focus to a different person? Do you think I'm scum?
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Mar 23, 2015 20:07
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Ernie. posted:so is everyone else and the case '___ is lazy and hiding behind a 3p vote' is an easy one to make I disagree; she's cased Vorbis who is voting her primarily for voting her, and keeps trying to excuse herself from the thread.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:08
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Like seriously look at that post, kill that guy
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Ernie. posted:maybe but then they gave their reads Being new, I'm not sure what indicates scumminess, and talking about newness gets old quick. But seriously, Shark Mafia, deliberately lured someone to their deaths, everyone was up in arms about it earlier, but then it was decided it was random even when he stated that it was more intentional. Max was the only one holding onto that vote, and then we all jumped on either EccoRaven or LordVorbis. I don't think bandwagoning is scummy because if it is, we pretty much all joined one side or the other. Shark Mafia posted:Like seriously look at that post, kill that guy 
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