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Quandary posted:3P does mean anti-town almost always. Even Numerik who has an additional win condition said he was town aligned. P-Mom literally said that he does not win with the town, which means he likely does not have incentive to look for scum, and possibly has incentive to actively avoid looking for scum you are doing, partially, what i am voting somber for. this is a bad post.
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Pinterest Mom posted:i win when scum all eliminated and my alignment isn't called town
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Mar 24, 2015 02:30
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ecco probably just has a bunch of town aligned teams that all just have different names
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Mar 24, 2015 02:32
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And that's "literally sa[ying] that he does not win with the town"?
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Mar 24, 2015 02:32
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Pinterest Mom posted:huh
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Mar 24, 2015 02:33
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can we think for a second about why a person might be casual about that kind of information if someone's interests really ran counter to the town, i personally doubt that they would be blurting that info out to everyone quandry, you are removing pinterest's post from the context in which it was made. i am getting tired of these kinds of arguments.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:34
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Pinterest Mom posted:And that's "literally sa[ying] that he does not win with the town"? Sorry, you're right in that I got a little bit overboard with my word choice. You did however say definitively that you are not town aligned QuoProQuid posted:can we think for a second about why a person might be casual about that kind of information That's the thing though, is that he didn't just volunteer the information in that post. This is the post where he said he wasn't town first, in an attempt to shed light on Numeriks claim: Pinterest Mom posted:that's not the town alignment name This is not a situation where he willingly outed himself, but rather in an attempt to talk about Numerik's claim accidentally gave the fact that he doesn't know what the town alignment name is. This was an accident, not volunteering information
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Mar 24, 2015 02:38
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I shouldn't have posted without actually thinking through what I was saying and who I was responding to. Quandary's statement about PMom being anti-town gave me a gut reaction to yell at someone. Except I saw the name jedit in his post and yelled at him instead. This is what happens when you're phone posting instead of paying attention to irl
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Mar 24, 2015 02:40
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Make sure to ##unvote before voting someone else, this is how Ecco rolls. Okay, I'll white-knight PMom: If someone read their role PM and couldn't tell that they weren't actually town-aligned and thought that their flavour-alignment meant town - they are probably pro-town.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:40
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Amoeba102 posted:Make sure to ##unvote before voting someone else, this is how Ecco rolls. My problem with this is what I posted earlier: PMom KNEW that they had an alignment issue, and I called it very early in the game. It wasn't an "accidental" flavor/alignment confusion
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Mar 24, 2015 02:41
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Amoeba102 posted:Make sure to ##unvote before voting someone else, this is how Ecco rolls. Oops. Sorry Ecco. ##unvote ##vote somber
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Mar 24, 2015 02:43
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I hate to repeat myself, but come on. PinterestMom's post came out in context of her realizing that Numerik's alignment did not match her own. When it was pointed out that everyone else had a pro-town alignment, she became withdrew and became confused. That doesn't read as scum behavior. It is, at best, a third party that thought they were town . These types of arguments that we keep repeating are asinine and provide easy ways for scum to contribute under the guise of "policy lynches." I'd rather we discuss actual scumhunting and gut reads instead of wasting our time. If you find PinterestMom suspicious, fine. Just provide reasoning to support that instead of repeating the same old points. a worthy uhh posted:My problem with this is what I posted earlier: PMom KNEW that they had an alignment issue, and I called it very early in the game. It wasn't an "accidental" flavor/alignment confusion I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you are saying. PMom's realization seems very much accidental. Her reaction to numerrik only makes sense if she thinks numerrik made a slip in posting his alignment.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:44
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a worthy uhh posted:My problem with this is what I posted earlier: PMom KNEW that they had an alignment issue, and I called it very early in the game. It wasn't an "accidental" flavor/alignment confusion I don't think PMom knew that their alignment wasn't the town one. Seeing the anti-3P sentiment in the thread multiple times, why would you slip like that if you knew you weren't town?
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Mar 24, 2015 02:45
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Amoeba explains succinctly what I've been trying to express. The interaction makes it clear to me that PMom THOUGHT all town players had her alignment.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:46
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I called PMom as 3P very early in the thread when he was passively defending Ernie as "3p but not ANTI-TOWN 3p", and said PMom was going to claim 3p but not anti-town 3p at some point. I was not wrong.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:52
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Hello I am here. Mymountain and Applebell have requested to be replaced, and I am seeking their replacements atm. I will post a votecount... ... soon. Day 1 is always bad. Remember to unvote, everyone.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:56
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Or it's a hilarious coincidence, since why would PMom fake slip? Do the follow through.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:57
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Amoeba102 posted:Or it's a hilarious coincidence, since why would PMom fake slip? Do the follow through. because it's not an accident or a slip, PMom is claiming 3p but not anti-town 3p, and now that heat is on, "not 3p but not not 3p" or whatever
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Mar 24, 2015 03:01
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Why did PMom claim in the fashion they did? Why do it at all?
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Mar 24, 2015 03:02
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why has anyone in this game claimed their non-town alignment?
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Mar 24, 2015 03:10
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Only Numerrik outright claimed and that was something I'll attribute to a newer player poorly reading the thread.
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Mar 24, 2015 03:15
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Glockenapfel has been replaced by Asiina. Still looking for a replacement for Meinberg.
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Mar 24, 2015 04:21
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Hi Asiina welcome to the
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Mar 24, 2015 04:32
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Oh hi, 19 pages. Okay I'll get around to this at some point. I haven't been reading at all.
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Mar 24, 2015 04:37
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Asiina posted:Oh hi, 19 pages. It actually starts page 5 if that helps.
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Mar 24, 2015 04:39
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What the flip is this noise. Glockenspiel you son of a bitch.
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Mar 24, 2015 04:41
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 Day 1 Votecount Somberbrero (3): Ninth, numer, Anon, -Anon, Anon merk (2): Ninth, Somber, QPQ, -Ninth CPig (2): Ernie, 100Yrs, -100Yrs, winvirus Anon (2): Opop, imgay numeriik (2): merk, Keane, PMom, -Keane, -Pmom, jedit Ernie (1): mir, Anon, QPQ, winvirus, CPig, -QPQ, -CPig, -Anon, -winvirus PMom (1): QPQ, -QPQ, Quand jedit (1): Cpig, Quand, -Quand imgay (1): Pmom  21 alive, 11 votes to execute. Day 1 deadline: Tuesday, March 24th, ~11PM EST. That is in about 23 hours from this post. REMEMBER TO UNVOTE BEFORE REVOTING EccoRaven fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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numerrik posted:I am Town aligned now go rage quit Merc. I'm just having fun and spending my off hours high. You're los your poo poo over a flavorful mafia game on a comedy forum. catching up now haha i hope everyone has piled the gently caress on numerrik for this one merk posted:No, you are not. haha knew it! fwiw, i agree with merk's conclusion. maybe having numerrik around isn't as valuable as not having him around. The Ninth Layer posted:Everyone pay attention to Somber's attempts to characterize Numerik as "A KILLING ROLE" with a win condition that "CAN LET HIM WIN WITH THE SCUM!" and how he escalates the degree to which Numerik must be lying about everything. It's scare-tactics casing. no, it's town paranoia. scum would realize that a bodyguard would never target themselves and would plan on killing numerrik eventually. only a townie would escalate their lack-of-control over what they don't know as somber has. a worthy uhh posted:This is a horrifically scummy hyperbolic oversimplification a worthy uhh posted:This is another hyperbolic oversimplification that is intentionally ignoring information that doesn't fit the idea he wants to push lol i feel like MiR just read posts on a surface level without actually reading their context or what they mean for example my post was poking a player about how they simplified their thoughts and somber's was about highlighting that numerrik had first soft-claimed 3p before claiming town all around terrible posts ##unvote ##vote a worthy uhh QuoProQuid posted:I <3 how Numerrik gets increasingly sinister as Somberbero's post history continues. It starts off as a policy lynch and slowly becomes a huge existential threat that must be eliminated. It's an absolutely hilarious escalation over the course of three pages. qpq gets it, it's like group-think but it's a solo act and it happens all the time when you think you have to stand your ground in mafia nowhere in somber's posts do i feel like he's trying to convince ninth of anything, ergo, i don't think he knows ninth's alignment Amoeba102 posted:Why is merk town? merk is obstinate but his motivation for posting is clear, it's not to lead town or direct the game his way but to prod players AnonymousNarcotics posted:merk is playing like an rear end in a top hat but I know he's town. I may know something about him. Just trust me, guys. imgay posted:##vote AnonymousNarcotics just ... noise Quandary posted:P-Mom literally said that he does not win with the town, which means he likely does not have incentive to look for scum, and possibly has incentive to actively avoid looking for scum Pinterest Mom posted:Well now you're just lying. wow no kidding, bet you anything that that was a scum-slip. quandary doesn't know what you actually said because he got a cliff-notes version from the scumdoc. The Ninth Layer posted:First of all, he said from the start his win condition was pro-town i agree with everything you've said/done, ninth, but claiming a win condition that is pro-town deals with his secondary win condition (i.e. kill someone to leave the game), which is not the town win condition. by definition, as it's currently claimed, numerrik's is not the town win condition.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:06
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I reckon merk has been trying to make things bigger than they are so he has something to post about.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:20
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The Ninth Layer posted:First of all, he said from the start his win condition was pro-town, which his claimed win condition is. Secondly, his play doesn't make "logical sense" to begin with so it's not like we can say he was pulling some gambit or anything. Claiming was a newbie mistake on his part but I don't understand why it's a mistake a townie with his role could not make. Finally, I'm not at all saying he was playing some subtle semantic game. Several times I've said the opposite: that numerik is a player who has trouble articulating his thoughts clearly, a trait that is fairly common among people new to Mafia. I'm not lynching him for playing like a new player. I'm lynching him for playing like a new player who is not Town. Because if he's not Town, then he's a risk.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:36
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Quandary posted:Numerik's added win-con actually seems pretty reasonable and, if as described, is not anti-town in any way. He literally only wins if town wins or if he dies killing mafia. Both of those are pro-town I feel worse about Somber/merk and more about the former than the latter. Something about the urgency in Somber's posts makes it feel all too desperate. QuoProQuid posted:These types of arguments that we keep repeating are asinine and provide easy ways for scum to contribute under the guise of "policy lynches." I'd rather we discuss actual scumhunting and gut reads instead of wasting our time. If you find PinterestMom suspicious, fine. Just provide reasoning to support that instead of repeating the same old points. Also agree. The stranger thing about this policy lynch crap is that we've got a number of players who may or may not be 3P and people aren't even sticking to what they said by voting them off. That lack of consistency is weird. The Ninth Layer posted:Several times I've said the opposite: that numerik is a player who has trouble articulating his thoughts clearly, a trait that is fairly common among people new to Mafia. This. We get hung up way too often about how things are said when all it boils down to is that people just speak in certain ways. There's nothing more to it than that.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:52
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Ernie. posted:nowhere in somber's posts do i feel like he's trying to convince ninth of anything, ergo, i don't think he knows ninth's alignment Isn't it funny how people can read the same things and come to different conclusions? ##vote somberbrero. I had the same impression (that he's not trying to persuade anyone of anything), but I took it to mean that he was arguing something he knew to be false.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:58
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Hey Quandary when you explained to me why it's good to policy lynch 3P did you mean that you do that yourself as a general rule, because I have found it strange that you haven't voted any of the supposed 3P.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:16
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Hey Quandary when you explained to me why it's good to policy lynch 3P did you mean that you do that yourself as a general rule, because I have found it strange that you haven't voted any of the supposed 3P. He's currently voting for Pin Mom, isn't he? I know he was, and he did so on the basis that she said she wasn't Town but won by killing all scum.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:24
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Jedit posted:He's currently voting for Pin Mom, isn't he? I know he was, and he did so on the basis that she said she wasn't Town but won by killing all scum. He has currently only voted for you.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:29
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Hey, votefinder is wrong. My bad. Yeah, he's voting PMom.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:30
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Amoeba102 posted:Hey, votefinder is wrong. My bad. Yeah, he's voting PMom. Ah that explains that.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:49
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i'm having trouble Quandary posted:ecco probably just has a bunch of town aligned teams that all just have different names e: i meant reconciling~ Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 11:55
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Day 1 Votecount Somberbrero (4): Ninth, numer, Anon, -Anon, Anon, 100Yrs merk (2): Ninth, Somber, QPQ, -Ninth CPig (1): Ernie, 100Yrs, -100Yrs, winvirus, -Ernie Anon (2): Opop, imgay numeriik (2): merk, Keane, PMom, -Keane, -Pmom, jedit Ernie (1): AWU/MIR, Anon, QPQ, winvirus, CPig, -QPQ, -CPig, -Anon, -winvirus PMom (1): QPQ, -QPQ, Quand jedit (1): Cpig, Quand, -Quand imgay (1): Pmom a worthy uhh/Me in Reverse (1): Ernie 21 alive, 11 votes to execute. Day 1 deadline: Tuesday, March 24th, ~11PM EST. That is in about 15 1/2 hours from this post. REMEMBER TO UNVOTE BEFORE REVOTING
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I am going to be Out and About today until the early afternoon, so if you have any questions for me it'll have to wait. If you manage to execute someone, and if you're confident someone actually got hammered (your judgment is probably as good as mine), since there are no flips until Lights Out ends, you are welcome to keep posting and voting without waiting for me to be around. BUT, I demand at least one player post a "final" votecount of the hammered player before you all vote for someone else (remembering that the votecount in votefinder is currently not correct thanks to people's poor direction-following). Ok and break!
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