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zoux posted:So does Banshee have some sort of policy against casting Indian actors as Indians? Meaghan Rath just showed up and I'm like, cmon guys casting an Asian Indian as an American Indian is seriously weird. Wait, I'm confused, are you talking about Indian Indian or American Indian? Also, Meaghan Rath is related to me. And considering that the native americans reached America from the China-Alaska bridge, and how similar their religion is to Hinduism, it's only natural that she would be cast as a native american, because they are also related to us. Rocksicles posted:A Stereotype occurs in the real world, a trope in the literary world. I don't understand, when has the scheming jew ever been used in a real world context?
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Ravane posted:Wait, I'm confused, are you talking about Indian Indian or American Indian? Also, Meaghan Rath is related to me. And considering that the native americans reached America from the China-Alaska bridge, and how similar their religion is to Hinduism, it's only natural that she would be cast as a native american, because they are also related to us. gently caress off Ravane.
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Ravane posted:
Yeah gently caress off Ravane, you're not Rick Ross, no Jew jokes.
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Ravane do you remember that last chance I gave you after you begged to be able to post in here? Well I'm getting really close to forgetting it. You're just not funny at all. Stick to regular posting and quit trying to be a funny troll or go away. If you were the least bit funny it would be one thing, but you're not and it's just sad.
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Deadpool posted:Ravane do you remember that last chance I gave you after you begged to be able to post in here? Well I'm getting really close to forgetting it. You're just not funny at all. Stick to regular posting and quit trying to be a funny troll or go away. If you were the least bit funny it would be one thing, but you're not and it's just sad. Deadpool, I'm sorry. I think I'm going crazy. Look, for the last two years, all I've been doing is like going around drinking and breaking stuff and talking to sports balls like they were people. But now that actual people are here, you know, I'm still trying to figure out how to talk to 'em. So... you're right. I'm not funny. But whether you believe it or not, I'm really, really sorry. Okay, good night.
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pentyne posted:So, The Royals is a pile of hot, steaming garbage, but I am eagerly awaiting its airing in the UK for the savage response it'll get from the British media. Royals is great trashy fun and its really no worse than Empire. I'd read the poo poo out of a thread for the show.
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So the season premiere of 19-2 stirred up a nice number of posts. Did anyone else watch through the season, and catch the finale last night? For being only one season behind its French-Canadian original, I was pretty surprised that they didn't change who the mole was. I hated that it was still Houle  I guess they figured the divide between French-Canadian media and the rest of the country/continent was still large enough to risk it. That, and JM beating his wife again was so disappointing. You were still an rear end in a top hat, JM, but at least you were an rear end in a top hat trying to change.It wasn't nearly as intense or even enjoyable as the premiere, in fact it felt a little disjointed, but I'd give them the benefit of the doubt that they were trying for disjointed on purpose, to reflect the state of the team. Still, after such a great season, the finale was kind of a bummer. Considering basically half the cast and crew were nominated for some Canadian Screen Award or another, I have pretty high hopes for another renewal.
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Maxwell Lord posted:See, I have the opposite view- one of the reasons I think it has such a rabid cult is it established what it was pretty quickly. The cast dynamic, the look and feel, the sense of place are there from early on- it never felt to me like the awkward fumbling period most shows have to start, even with a few episodes that aren't as good as the rest. What I should've added, and what the other fella pointed out, is that the characters and world is there (Though I'd argue that the show still can't quite decide who Mal is) and that's what people tend to respond to the most. The actual episodes themselves though? They're not all that good, but they start to find their footing by the end. It really seemed like the kind of show that would have a killer run of episodes at the end of Season 1 and a great Season 2 but honestly if you come to that show cold now it's like, this is what people went nuts over?
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KatWithHands posted:So the season premiere of 19-2 stirred up a nice number of posts. Did anyone else watch through the season, and catch the finale last night? For being only one season behind its French-Canadian original, I was pretty surprised that they didn't change who the mole was. I hated that it was still Houle Was he the mole for different reasons? It always kinda made me laugh that in the og version The A HA! Familiprix guy ends up being some weird pedophile.
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Vincent posted:Hey, the X-files are back! Yay? Who wanted this?
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Zaggitz posted:Was he the mole for different reasons? It always kinda made me laugh that in the og version The A HA! Familiprix guy ends up being some weird pedophile. Same reason, which sucks, because I really like the actor and was so happy to see him in a regular role. I think they did a really good job of not pointing fingers at who the mole was (plenty of red herrings, though), to the point where I was just sitting there daring to dream that they'd go in another direction.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Yay? Who wanted this? A lot of people did apparently. I liked the show well enough but man there was just too much of it. I couldn't take anymore after three or so seasons.
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zoux posted:So does Banshee have some sort of policy against casting Indian actors as Indians? Meaghan Rath just showed up and I'm like, cmon guys casting an Asian Indian as an American Indian is seriously weird. I almost wanna say that's a deliberate joke. They probably didn't want to cast actual Native American actors because the Kinaho are a pastiche of Native American tropes, not supposed to be representative of actual Native Americans; they're there because Hood's cowboy needs indians in addition to outlaws. Casting literally every brown ethnicity but actual Native Americans just brings it to the forefront.
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I also stan pretty hard for Banshee and really want to believe it's not racist tho
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I hope the X-Files episodes are 6 standalone, fun episodes that are like the early seasons. That'd be great.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I hope the X-Files episodes are 6 standalone, fun episodes that are like the early seasons. That'd be great. Make Darin Morgan write them all and let Carter write none.
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zoux posted:Make Darin Morgan write them all and let Carter write none. Basically this. I don't trust Carter not to gently caress this up. Man, with X-Files and Twin Peaks returning, are we hitting peak 90s nostalgia yet?
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I also stan pretty hard for Banshee and really want to believe it's not racist tho I ask this seriously, who would it be racist against? Neither minority is well represented on TV, might as well take an ethnically ambiguous (see Karen David) person and place him or her in that position if the actual ethnicity isn't present or qualified. Meaghan Rath was brilliant in Being Human, and though I don't watch Banshee, I'm pretty sure she'll be successful there as well. And I know The Red Road was mentioned earlier, which did a similar thing by placing non-native americans in native american roles. Ask yourself, in the realm of entertainment, do you really want to affirmative action the entire thing and watch mediocre actors simply because they fit racially? The Red Road was good (I was Op of the thread, I should know but I don't because I didn't actually finish it, I've only heard good things), Jason Momoa was amazing in it; to destroy all of that simply to conform to some weak perception of racism is quite sad and unnecessary. Yeah, if there's a native american Tom Cruise, go ahead and place him. But if it's some native american art student who took a couple acting classes in community college between dealing cards, don't put him in that role. 
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Ravane I know your gimmick is being just unbelievably stupid but there are not two races, white and not, and it's racist to say that it's fine for any race to play any other non white race.
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hope and vaseline posted:Basically this. I don't trust Carter not to gently caress this up.
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hope and vaseline posted:Man, with X-Files and Twin Peaks returning, are we hitting peak 90s nostalgia yet? It's not going to get much better than this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3551096/
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zoux posted:Ravane I know your gimmick is being just unbelievably stupid but there are not two races, white and not, and it's racist to say that it's fine for any race to play any other non white race. I think he put a little more effort into that fakepost and the payoff was supposed to be the last sentence being super racist.
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Weirdly enough, Arrow's Stephen Amell has decided to make his own web series about his side venture winery called "Dudes Being Dudes in Wine Country."
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zoux posted:it's racist to say that it's fine for any race to play any other non white race. Agreed. Its racist to say it, but since non-whites are incapable of racism, its perfect fine when and if it does happen.
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muscles like this? posted:Weirdly enough, Arrow's Stephen Amell has decided to make his own web series about his side venture winery called "Dudes Being Dudes in Wine Country." This better have shirtless training montages.
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zoux posted:Ravane I know your gimmick is being just unbelievably stupid but there are not two races, white and not, and it's racist to say that it's fine for any race to play any other non white race. I think you misunderstood me. There's no gimmick here. It's not racist for a brown race to play another brown race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzelrlH_pjQ ^ It's not racist for this black guy to play an indian doctor. If two people are of similar skin color (AKA Indians and Native Americans and Hispanics, etc) then yes, they can act as another ethnicity. I say this as A PERSON OF COLOR. Note: I'm not white Zoux. I don't loving need to shame people into inadvertently thinking they're racist when they're not. Now if a white guy plays a brown guy, or vice-versa, and it's not a joke, then yes it is racist. But even that's fine as long as they don't act like a complete stereotype. If you are ethnically ambiguous, who cares where you're from. It's not racist. Racism implies prejudice. If they denied an actor who's equal in talent to another actor, based on his race (even though they're the same skin color) that's racism, though really complicated and idiotic. Indian actors get transposed for Middle Eastern characters ALL THE TIME. Is that racist? No, it's not. And that's something that nobody argues about on this site, so don't argue when the exact same thing happens here. It's not racist. If they're qualified actors and they fit the character's description, who gives a poo poo about their ethnicity? Ravane fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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hope and vaseline posted:This better have shirtless training montages. How do you think he crushes the grapes?
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hope and vaseline posted:Basically this. I don't trust Carter not to gently caress this up. Don't forget Boy Meets World had a spinoff launch last year!
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hope and vaseline posted:Basically this. I don't trust Carter not to gently caress this up. When the frosted tips return, only then shall the prophecy will be fulfilled.
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JUICY HAMBUGAR posted:When the frosted tips return, only then shall the prophecy will be fulfilled. Here's the breaking of the first seal.
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Ravane posted:I think you misunderstood me. There's no gimmick here. youre right
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To be honest ravine is right here, e.g. Chinese play Japanese all the time, vice versa for example. White people play white people from other countries all the time etc. Sometimes the right actor for the role has the right look but maybe are a different ethnicity.
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Wandle Cax posted:White people play white people from other countries all the time etc. So racist
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scary ghost dog posted:youre right Wandle Cax posted:To be honest ravine is right here, e.g. Chinese play Japanese all the time, vice versa for example. White people play white people from other countries all the time etc. Sometimes the right actor for the role has the right look but maybe are a different ethnicity. Thank you, and it's Ravane. Take Heroes for example. The Korean actor (best friend of Hiro) plays a Japanese character. He actually learned the Japanese language proficiently for the role. The entire point of acting is to take on a role that isn't one's own persona. Is it racist to take on the visage of another ethnicity? Hell no. It's called acting. Get with the program Zoux, you're embarrassing yourself in TVIV. The only problem is when it comes to something like Blackface, which is an overexaggeration of African features. That's racist. Why? Because everyone knows people of African descent don't look like that, it's merely intended to harm. And if that happens, it's racist. But the fact is that people do look similar enough to make that jump, and it's not racist to allow that, especially if they're well qualified actors.
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Ravane posted:The only problem is when it comes to something like Blackface, which is an overexaggeration of African features. That's racist. Why? Because everyone knows people of African descent don't look like that, it's merely intended to harm. And if that happens, it's racist. But the fact is that people do look similar enough to make that jump, and it's not racist to allow that, especially if they're well qualified actors. Unless you're in Norway and its Christmas-time, then its okay.
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Ravane posted:Thank you, and it's Ravane. Just as long as it's still ok to hate the Welsh.
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