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That's something I always wondered about bass boats. Are they actually used for fishing, or just for farting around on the water? And if they are used for fishing, why do you need so much freakin' power? Do you need to, like, get right the gently caress over to the other end of the lake to punch the little buggers out of the air when you hear em jump?
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The Locator posted:Arizona - we have lakes on the Verde (Bartlett and Horseshoe) and Salt (Saguaro, Canyon, Apache, and Roosevelt), as well as Lake Pleasant on the Hassayampa. There are a stupid number of boats in the Phoenix area, and as noted above, it's not much of a drive to get to any of the Colorado river lakes. Oh cool, right.
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Phy posted:That's something I always wondered about bass boats. Are they actually used for fishing, or just for farting around on the water? And if they are used for fishing, why do you need so much freakin' power? Do you need to, like, get right the gently caress over to the other end of the lake to punch the little buggers out of the air when you hear em jump? 1. Professional/Semi-Pro/Pro-Am fishermen. These guys absolutely hammer down and go balls out whenever they move from boat ramp to spot, spot to spot, and back in at the end of the day. They abuse all the poo poo on their boats and can and do break anything and everything on them. They use the power to get maximum fishing time. 2. "Tournament" fishermen. These are the guys who have normal jobs and fish tournaments on weekends. Varying level of success, but you wouldn't know it from looking at their gear. Many of these guys will have the same or even MORE gear than the pros, with two big differences. They don't break their poo poo, and they don't run their engines as hard. It was easy to spot them because when you put their engines on the diagnostic computers, they never showed to have more than about 5-10% of their total run time above ~70% of max RPM range. 3. Casual fishermen with money. These guys just liked to have the best of the best and would have the top of the line boat/engine. Most of these guys were pretty cool to deal with. It'd be like a car guy buying a Corvette Z06 or M3/4/6 and just putting to work in it day in/day out. Also I don't know what The Locator is talking about with having multiple engines on a bass boat. I haven't even heard of that existing.
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Dec 25, 2014 07:48
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:Also I don't know what The Locator is talking about with having multiple engines on a bass boat. I haven't even heard of that existing. As a non-fisherman, every boat with that sort of center console and everything else 'open' is a bass boat to me. I'm probably completely wrong. I lump everything that's obviously supposed to be a 'fishing boat' into that category I suppose - like this thing:  Which I suppose isn't really a bass boat at all, but there are a huge number of variations of this type of boat, and I've seen a bunch of them around (although most around here aren't that large).
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Dec 25, 2014 16:28
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Open-ocean center consoles like that have as much in common with bass boats as an eighteen wheeler does with a Toyota Hilux. They're both trucks, and... Nope, that's it.
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Dec 25, 2014 16:30
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The boat here is def used for fishing, I saw the guy go out two or three times fishing. His dumb boat has 45x the horsepower of my sailboat, hah. It's amazing to me how many people here have a hugely expensive boat that they touch maybe twice a summer. My dock has a large liveaboard community (maybe 50%) so it's even worse in other marinas!
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Dec 25, 2014 19:09
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Alctel posted:The boat here is def used for fishing, I saw the guy go out two or three times fishing. His dumb boat has 45x the horsepower of my sailboat, hah. You should see some of the marinas in False Creek. Burrard Civic is like 50% full of these green-tinged hulks that look like they haven't left the slip within the 21st century, and so much bottom growth that it's a miracle they haven't gone straight to the bottom yet. I know it's cheap there, but goddamn, it would really be nice if the city gave the worst offenders the boot so that the waiting list wasn't over two years long. 
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Dec 25, 2014 19:54
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I got the Annapolis Book of Seamanship for Christmas and.... holy poo poo what an incredible book! Especially if you love pictures and diagrams. It seems to cover just about.... everything.
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Due to the home owners association where I live feeling that having a boat in your driveway is somehow tacky, I have to store my boat in a large fenced in area. Some of the boats in there haven't moved more than 2-3 times in a decade, but probably the worst offender is the tiny 17ft sailboat that is assigned the spot next to me. It is completely falling apart and every time I go to check on my stuff, I have to pick up pieces of their boat that have been torn off by storms and thrown over onto mine. I'm just amazed they're paying for insurance, tags and such for what is at this point a complete wreck.
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Elmnt80 posted:Due to the home owners association where I live feeling that having a boat in your driveway is somehow tacky, I have to store my boat in a large fenced in area. Some of the boats in there haven't moved more than 2-3 times in a decade, but probably the worst offender is the tiny 17ft sailboat that is assigned the spot next to me. It is completely falling apart and every time I go to check on my stuff, I have to pick up pieces of their boat that have been torn off by storms and thrown over onto mine. I'm just amazed they're paying for insurance, tags and such for what is at this point a complete wreck. Pretend its a car. v  v
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I can't post anything more than publicity photos, but I think a SSN in drydock counts as Nautical Insanity. Or a rudder off a CVN: 
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Dec 26, 2014 20:43
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I'd say cramming people into a pressurized metal tube at the bottom of the ocean counts. Were you working the sub?
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Can anybody who has made large boat purchases in the past talk about boat financing? I assume you can get something similar to a mortgage, like you would a house? Because house prices here in Seattle are basically the same as a new ~45ft catamaran.
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The annual moorage, liveaboard or otherwise, for a 45ft catamaran in Seattle would likely exceed any reasonable mortgage payments by a significant amount.
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Kenshin posted:Can anybody who has made large boat purchases in the past talk about boat financing? I assume you can get something similar to a mortgage, like you would a house? Because house prices here in Seattle are basically the same as a new ~45ft catamaran. And financing is a lot more strict for boat purchases. Lots of people came in and assumed they could finance a boat because they could finance a car and house, but their debt to income was all hosed up or whatever else, and they couldn't do it even though their credit score was decent.
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Rime posted:The annual moorage, liveaboard or otherwise, for a 45ft catamaran in Seattle would likely exceed any reasonable mortgage payments by a significant amount.
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Well it was queried as an alternative to owning a house there, so assumptions were made. 
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Dec 28, 2014 12:13
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Rime posted:Well it was queried as an alternative to owning a house there, so assumptions were made.  I figure if I budget about USD$100k/year to living expenses and boat maintenance while sailing around the world it would be appropriate for a ~45-ft catamaran. Those go new for (depending on the model and manufacturer) USD$400-850k, and I think I can get a relatively new one in good condition for $300-500k, possibly less. That's a lot of money and it isn't easy but it's at least a target to go for.
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Elmnt80 posted:I'd say cramming people into a pressurized metal tube at the bottom of the ocean counts. Were you working the sub? Not that one. I started working at the yard just as they were finishing up. Getting to see that in completed form next to another that was just completely torn apart was a neat experience.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0ve18j0TQ Have some roadkill playing with boats! 
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On the subject of jet boats, this will forever be one of the most insane forms of motorsport to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv0pI_9JqaU That sort of stuff is mental.
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Like an idiot, I started scraping yesterday. So now I'm committed to a hundred hours of knuckle-breaking, arm-destroying tedious work this spring. And that's before the sanding, priming and painting. 
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Apparently part of my delivery area for O'Reillys is going to cover all the marinas and such in my area. Should be good times.Neslepaks posted:Like an idiot, I started scraping yesterday. So now I'm committed to a hundred hours of knuckle-breaking, arm-destroying tedious work this spring. And that's before the sanding, priming and painting. Oh god. How long is it and how long do you think its gonna take you?
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I've enlisted the help of one of my friends to come and help me get all the old bottom paint off of my boat. I dont think it's been done for many many years. Luckily I've been able to rent some kind of machine from the harbour master to help, but I have no idea how it works. I guess it's just a scraper/sander with a sucker on it or something. Oh yeah, I'm also going to be installing some new windows. And fixing the toilet. And installing a chartplotter/sounder. And a new table for the cockpit. And ofcourse servicing the engine. And installing the mast for the first time. And maybe try sewing my ancient mainsail. And try to rig up some lazyjacks. And fixing some of the electrics. An 
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Yeah, my plan is to handscrape it first then sand it lightly with a machine to get the rest off. I hope I can enlist some friends too, or this is gonna take forever. The bottom paint was flaking right down to the gelcoat, and that just doesn't seem right. I don't think they sanded the gelcoat before priming it, whoever did this last time, because it's completely shiny under there, I can see my reflection in the areas I've scraped. So the primer presumably had no good hold. Elmnt80: it's 24'.
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How old is it? Gelcoat takes years to cure. That's why some of the most sturdy sailboats you'll find are J24s that sat in a warehouse for a year or two after the production boom in the early 80s before being purchased. Generally, in the last few decades, gelcoat durability has taken a hit because fiberglass shops will literally pop it out of the mold, coat it, then, prime it/finish/etc.
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Scraping saga, day 2. There's good news and bad. I didn't make much progress down the side but I cleaned up the area I'd been working on a lot. I bought a nice electric multitool with a scraping attachment in the hopes I could speed it up that way, but it was useless. The good news is I also bought a more expensive hand scraper with a hard-metal edge that works 10 times better than the first one. I'm guessing I'm 1/5th down one side at this point. Trying to avoid injuries to the gelcoat but I'm bound to have to go over with some filler before priming. 2-3 hours seems to be all I can manage at a time before I get too many cramps and pains and have to go home and drink beer. Hoping I can manage some longer sessions during Easter. Maybe if I bring the beer with me?
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We made it four pages without someone bringing up the Glomar Explorer?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSF_Explorer quote:GSF Explorer, formerly USNS Hughes Glomar Explorer (T-AG-193), is a deep-sea drillship platform initially built for the United States Central Intelligence Agency Special Activities Division secret operation Project Azorian to recover the sunken Soviet submarine K-129, lost in April 1968.[2][3]     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aBk8H0Goic CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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CommieGIR posted:We made it four pages without someone bringing up the Glomar Explorer?! The movie that video is taken from is Worth Your loving Time. Seriously.
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SuperDucky posted:How old is it? Gelcoat takes years to cure. That's why some of the most sturdy sailboats you'll find are J24s that sat in a warehouse for a year or two after the production boom in the early 80s before being purchased. Generally, in the last few decades, gelcoat durability has taken a hit because fiberglass shops will literally pop it out of the mold, coat it, then, prime it/finish/etc.
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MrYenko posted:The movie that video is taken from is Worth Your loving Time. Seriously. Yup, that is why I referenced that video.
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Neslepaks posted:Scraping saga, day 2.
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CommieGIR posted:Yup, that is why I referenced that video. Looks like it's on Amazon instant video, too.
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azazello posted:pics I really like what the new SWATH and fast cat designs have done in regards to broadening the performance envelope but god do they look ugly to me. Like a modern yacht sitting in a dry-dock.
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All I can ever think of is the stealth boat from that one bond movie when I see a picture of one.
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I remember 20-25 years ago I had a book about "future technology" which said that soon all large cruise ships would be catamaran designs because they were more stable in the water and passengers wouldn't get seasick.
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Elmnt80 posted:All I can ever think of is the stealth boat from that one bond movie when I see a picture of one. Sea Shadow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shadow_(IX-529) 
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Deeters posted:Or a rudder off a CVN: Oh hey... I work there. I can't post anything but publicity photos too, but here's the ship I'm currently working on... 
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-Anders posted:I've enlisted the help of one of my friends to come and help me get all the old bottom paint off of my boat. I dont think it's been done for many many years. So RE: all of the above. I've been scraping and sanding the bottom for three days during the easter holidays. I still need to get the last half of the boat sanded - and then it's on to priming and getting some antifowling on there. We did manage to get the new windows installed though, they just need a bit of finish work and then they should be good to go. And then there's still the rest of all that stuff up on the list there.  Anyway, I made a video about my progress and put it up on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJUra_Zf7ss
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