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Virigoth posted:Does TOME have additional adventures after you "win" the game? In Crawl when you beat the game you can go do a multitude of side things and play on for about forever if you want. there is an infinite dungeon as well as a thing that generates randomized dungeons that will murder your balls off
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jsoh posted:there is an infinite dungeon as well as a thing that generates randomized dungeons that will murder your balls off There's also a few optional super bosses and the arena mode.
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Mar 26, 2015 15:44
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Metal Meltdown posted:Really bad chest rares are way scarier than zone bosses. I'd just avoid him and head down the floors. Oh cool I'm glad to hear it. I'm thankful for adventure mode because as much as I love the tension of 'one life is all you get' it's incredibly upsetting when you lose it to something completely trivial.
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Mar 26, 2015 16:02
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Oh cool I'm glad to hear it. I'm thankful for adventure mode because as much as I love the tension of 'one life is all you get' it's incredibly upsetting when you lose it to something completely trivial. I'm trying to cope with my FPS syndrome of mashing buttons and just going for it instead of being analytical and tactical and slowing down. I've been trying to keep play journals of my characters to work on pacing.
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Mar 26, 2015 16:12
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Virigoth posted:I'm trying to cope with my FPS syndrome of mashing buttons and just going for it instead of being analytical and tactical and slowing down. I've been trying to keep play journals of my characters to work on pacing. The Glittering caves taught me patience and it helps that I stopped mousing for movement. I was most put to the test in the Maze encountering some rare rogue that would put me to sleep and mind gently caress me while I wasn't able to do anything, but I managed that, mainly because I could retreat, regroup and get back at him. The Old Forest was awesome because I could control the terrain and even when moving through the enemy zoos I never had to face more than one enemy at a time. The thing about Sandworm Lair is that there is no retreat and so when face to face with a tough enemy I no other back up plan. I have a phase door rune but maybe I should take a more general teleport infusion?
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Mar 26, 2015 16:20
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I almost always like to run a teleport rune, preferably one with no scaling and 20 range so I have a pretty good idea where it'll put me relative to where I am. Minimizing the RNG on it as much as possible makes it a reasonably reliable escape!
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Mar 26, 2015 16:23
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Preferred Paradox: 1 Willpower Paradox Modifier: -44 Sustain Paradox Modifier: +132 My Base Paradox: 220. The hell's going on here? Shouldn't my base paradox be 89?
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Mar 26, 2015 16:43
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ToxicFrog posted:Wait, you care about the escorts that give Premonition but not the ones that give Celestial/Light? I have 2 modes of playing: good enough that the class can get me through without extras, and so dumb that no bonus can get me out. Guess how most of my characters end!
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Mar 26, 2015 18:03
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Clobbered into soup? Gonna take on Alt Maze as a caster, so, I'm not betting on this character's continued longevity.
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Mar 26, 2015 18:31
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Just fireflash killed myself twice during my lunch break, I really shouldn't play mages while I'm trying to eat lunch.
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Mar 26, 2015 19:13
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Virigoth posted:Just fireflash killed myself twice during my lunch break, I really shouldn't play mages while I'm trying to eat lunch. Build up your resistance to fire by burning yourself for increasing amounts.
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Mar 26, 2015 19:35
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Note to self: Next time the bi-weekly "NERF ARCHMAGES" discussion comes up, quote a bunch out of the last two pages. Every time I say "They're high power/hard to master, that's fine in a game with classes." I tend to get answers along the lines of "They're not hard, just do X!", X always being something that can get you killed to overuse/use in the wrong situation. It's depressing.
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Mar 26, 2015 20:04
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SageAcrin posted:Note to self: Next time the bi-weekly "NERF ARCHMAGES" discussion comes up, quote a bunch out of the last two pages. Do you want me to file a bug report?
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Mar 26, 2015 20:06
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Nah, blowing yourself up is in fact working entirely as intended. That's the point. 
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Mar 26, 2015 20:22
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So the Sandworm Queen was pretty easy all things considered and now I need to go to Daikara (I'm using the guide offered in the OP). I have no real cold or lightning protection and only the most basic protection from confusion. I have a lot of gold so what's a good shop to deck myself up?
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Mar 26, 2015 23:52
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Ok quick question while my game is running. I found the hidden trap door and I'm a level 21 PM mage. Am I able to do this/clear this at my current level? It's the Trapped quest. EDIT: PS I beat that demon woman at her most powerful. She missed both her meteors strikes kinda very badly and did little else aside from chasing me around a circular area and being blasted. EDIT EDIT: Also where the HELL is the hidden compound supposed to spawn? I remember finding it one game and now I can't find it for the life of me. Blackray Jack fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 00:29
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Blackray Jack posted:Ok quick question while my game is running. I found the hidden trap door and I'm a level 21 PM mage. Am I able to do this/clear this at my current level? It's the Trapped quest. Yes. In fact, it can be done at far lower levels.
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Mar 27, 2015 00:31
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Blackray Jack posted:Ok quick question while my game is running. I found the hidden trap door and I'm a level 21 PM mage. Am I able to do this/clear this at my current level? It's the Trapped quest. I've found hidden compound in drat near every nook and cranny over the course of many games. Just keep poking around the map.
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Mar 27, 2015 00:44
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Well Daikara killed me good. I was doing alright but then I got caught in open terrain too many enemies and got surrounded. It's a bit upsetting but I think I did alright considering I had never played the game. Bulwark's fun if repetitive. I'm trying out a summoner this time around. I'll see how it goes. I also unlocked Wyrmic, Brawler, and Cursed, all three that seem really fun. I have the archmage as well but I don't think I'll be able to handle that just now.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:52
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Well Daikara killed me good. I was doing alright but then I got caught in open terrain too many enemies and got surrounded. It's a bit upsetting but I think I did alright considering I had never played the game. Bulwark's fun if repetitive. I'm trying out a summoner this time around. I'll see how it goes. I also unlocked Wyrmic, Brawler, and Cursed, all three that seem really fun. I have the archmage as well but I don't think I'll be able to handle that just now. Getting to Daikara on your first run is certainly fine, even though ToME has a reputation as one of the "easier" roguelikes it's not just a stroll to the end either.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:58
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SageAcrin posted:Nah, blowing yourself up is in fact working entirely as intended. I've been imploded by my disruption shield collapsing, not the arcane vortex, by the disruption shield collapsing and doing ~250 damage to me.
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Mar 27, 2015 02:14
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Bulwark's fun if repetitive. I'm trying out a summoner this time around. If repetitive isn't your thing, maybe try wyrmic. Summoner is not a hard class to be successful with, but its gameplay is "summon drake -> wait -> summon drake".
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Mar 27, 2015 02:20
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I didn't know the missing elf race turned into nagas Now I really am surprised there isn't a naga race How would nagas wear shoes
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Mar 27, 2015 03:58
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Mar 27, 2015 05:10
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cauterize owns, it literally saved my life right after i took it. i leveled to 42 from briagh, took cauterize, got trapped by an orc patrol just outside the lair, and cauterize let me live long enough for my defenses to cycle around again.
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Mar 27, 2015 05:52
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Got my first nightmare win, with a summoner http://te4.org/characters/112140/tome/e8ca7b93-b62f-4346-85d7-d1f5a62ad4bf not even close to clean. Slime tunnels and high peak had a lot of running from bosses to get the stairs. My dmg output was awful and the whole game consisted of summon things around corners and running away if anything with a purple border could see me. Despite rescuing Melinda from the crypt, I didn't do the rest of the quest to get the nightmare version of the achievement. 
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Mar 27, 2015 07:08
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Rolf & Weisman...
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It's my first time going to the Lake of Nur. I can't find any water breathing, is it alright to do it without? How many cat points should I put in buying inscriptions as well? And this is my guy so far. http://te4.org/characters/155206/tome/2ae02519-e003-4ed8-a7e5-6378d6a413f1
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Mar 27, 2015 08:23
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paradox mages kind of just naturally get everythging that you would want a inscription for aside from a mental clear and a heroism so you should be ok with just 3 i think. please note that im terrible at this game and a idiot
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Mar 27, 2015 08:26
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Man, nutting up and playing roguelike with some archmages and twice in a row die to one hit kills while autoexploring. Feels bad man. I even had my shield rune set to auto-cast when enemies are visible.
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So with archers do you want aim, rapid shot or neither? I could see a lot of on hit procs make rapid shot pretty appealing but I don't know.
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Mar 27, 2015 10:28
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iirc rapid shot ends up being more damage endgame but aim is insanely good early.
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Mar 27, 2015 12:42
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Flython posted:So with archers do you want aim, rapid shot or neither? I could see a lot of on hit procs make rapid shot pretty appealing but I don't know. You could always do the thing where you put a few points into aim, and keep taking it out before leveling at a town . 
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My firewall at work blocks me out of steam but I can still load TOME. I play different characters and have cloud sync turned off at work. If I get to lvl 20 and get the fortress with the storage will I see that on my game on my home PC? When I get it do I need to kill out all my work saves, cloud sync once to make sure I see the unlock, and then start new characters? If I get in before 8 I can get steam online and cloud sync the game if needed.
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Mar 27, 2015 14:01
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Blackray Jack posted:It's my first time going to the Lake of Nur. I can't find any water breathing, is it alright to do it without? How many cat points should I put in buying inscriptions as well? And this is my guy so far. You don't need it, there will be bubbles you can breathe inside just watch your air meter. It's definitely a less pain in the rear end if you can find water breathing though, but that's fairly random. There is a dungeon later in the game that does require water breathing, but it's optional.
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Mar 27, 2015 14:06
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Paradox Mage with disintegration level 2 makes the worm tunnels a joke. I'll dig my own tunnels, thank you. 
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Mar 27, 2015 14:24
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Focacciasaurus_Rex posted:Paradox Mage with disintegration level 2 makes the worm tunnels a joke. I'll dig my own tunnels, thank you. if dust to dust is level 5 or whatever you can self cast it with level one disintegration and take out a area of 3 around you
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jsoh posted:if dust to dust is level 5 or whatever you can self cast it with level one disintegration and take out a area of 3 around you The area also follows you when you move. So you can cast it on your self and, depending on your move speed, dig faster than you can with the ray version. 
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Mar 27, 2015 15:33
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Indecisive posted:You don't need it, there will be bubbles you can breathe inside just watch your air meter. It's definitely a less pain in the rear end if you can find water breathing though, but that's fairly random. There is a dungeon later in the game that does require water breathing, but it's optional.
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Also killing enemies creates new bubble pockets for you so it's really not too bad unless you are desperately retreating.
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