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Thyrork posted:E: I mean, I get it when say, Young Adult is applied to cheesy, Teenage drama stories. But Mistborn? Mistborn is dark, and it just happens to include a cheesy teenage love story woven in. The most successful young adult series of the past decade is literally about children being forced to murder each other. Mistborn may be a bit more mature in tone, but "darkness" isn't really a good way to determine if a book is YA or not.
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True. Bah. Its such a confusing tag, its why people who dislike anything associated with it confuse me even more. 
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Mar 24, 2015 02:51
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Mortanis posted:Fantasy languages with a half dozen apostrophes per sentence are way more egregious. Or reversing it like in Kingkiller Chronicles and having a character declare only wines from Vint can have a vintage, just to be clever with wordplay in a fantasy setting. That sounds like a pretty funny satire of champagne snobs, actually.
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Mar 24, 2015 03:08
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I know WoR has been out for a whilebut I hope that Sil isn't dead  When that chapter started, I was half convinced that it was a dream state or something because it seemed so off to start with.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:41
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Mortanis posted:People must get really mad at Star Wars using 'rendezvous' and 'hell' in Empire. Han saying "Then I'll see you in hell!" is the only thing that bothers me about Empire. It's kinda the one odd out of place thing that could have been avoided with a different, less contemporary phrase with the same meaning. Also, YA isn't well defined but can be kinda sorta primarily deduced from the age of the protagonists, anything else is literally just marketing. I also thought Mistborn wasn't actually intended to be YA?
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Mar 24, 2015 14:55
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Mistborn wasn't originally intended as YA, but a version with a different cover was produced for the YA market.
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Mar 24, 2015 15:56
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I just finished stormlight book 2 a week or so ago. I understand why people have complaints about Lift and her awesomeness, but I don't care. That interlude was the best one of both books and a welcome breath of fresh air in the series. Can't wait for her to meet up with Kaladin and crew. I must of missed it, but was it ever mentioned what her age was? In my mind she's somewhere around 12-14.
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Mar 26, 2015 00:20
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Cartoon Man posted:I just finished stormlight book 2 a week or so ago. I understand why people have complaints about Lift and her awesomeness, but I don't care. That interlude was the best one of both books and a welcome breath of fresh air in the series. Can't wait for her to meet up with Kaladin and crew. She's around 13. She claims she's been 10 for 3 years or something like that.
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Mar 26, 2015 00:30
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Silver2195 posted:She's around 13. She claims she's been 10 for 3 years or something like that. I finished that Audiobook section a few days ago. She's 13.
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Mar 26, 2015 00:35
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Are there any spoilerish theories on who or what that evil guy is that was chasing her?
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Mar 26, 2015 00:55
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The former herald of justice, Javert.
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Mar 26, 2015 00:56
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Tunicate posted:The former herald of justice, Fixed. I cannot recall a character named Javert in Stormlight Archive at all.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:49
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Torrannor posted:Fixed. I cannot recall a character named Javert in Stormlight Archive at all. I think I remember him from the musical version. He's pretty miserable.
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Mar 26, 2015 07:07
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Cartoon Man posted:I just finished stormlight book 2 a week or so ago. I understand why people have complaints about Lift and her awesomeness, but I don't care. That interlude was the best one of both books and a welcome breath of fresh air in the series. Can't wait for her to meet up with Kaladin and crew. I really liked that part as well but I can see why people think it was out of place for these books.
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Mar 26, 2015 11:13
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Just finished WoR That final Adolin section was a literal "yessssssssssss" moment
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Mar 26, 2015 12:04
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tithin posted:Just finished WoR You know it's going to cause all kinds of problems though
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Mar 26, 2015 12:48
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Levitate posted:You know it's going to cause all kinds of problems though AAAAALL kinds of problems. 
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Mar 26, 2015 13:49
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Lobsterpillar posted:I think I remember him from the musical version. He's pretty miserable. He said read and find out.
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Mar 27, 2015 17:29
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Levitate posted:You know it's going to cause all kinds of problems though But it solved a lot of them, too. And don't forget that only broken people can become Knights Radiants, so it's just set up for Adolin's further character arc.
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Mar 27, 2015 19:41
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Torrannor posted:But it solved a lot of them, too. And don't forget that only broken people can become Knights Radiants, so it's just set up for Adolin's further character arc. Personally I don't think Adolin will ever become a real Knight Radiant. Maybe a... squire(?) of the Windrunners at most, but I think that's probably unlikely as well.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:05
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I just hope he doesn't go for the trite Shallan falls for Kaladin setup that potentially exists. I don't know why it would annoy me, but it really absolutely would.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:24
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Holy_Zarquon posted:Personally I don't think Adolin will ever become a real Knight Radiant. Maybe a... squire(?) of the Windrunners at most, but I think that's probably unlikely as well. My dream scenario would be for Adolin to never become a knight Radiant but remain able to outfight most of them just on virtue by being so much better than everyone else in 1 on 1 duels.
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Mar 28, 2015 01:25
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Captain Monkey posted:I just hope he doesn't go for the trite Shallan falls for Kaladin setup that potentially exists. I don't know why it would annoy me, but it really absolutely would. The chapter after they escape from the high storm, he can't stop thinking about her and trying to look for her, and she keeps thinking about him and can't decide if she should go for either of them. So yeah, it's probably going to happen
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Mar 28, 2015 01:36
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I want to believe Sanderson won't go in that direction because it's just such a blindingly obvious and cliche setup. He's clubbing us over the head with it. Please let it be a platonic friendship and mutual respect that's forming and nothing more, please?
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Mar 28, 2015 02:01
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I'm expecting that they'll feel drawn to each other and almost be all ready to make out or whatever and then she finds out he's the one who killed her brother and poo poo will hit the fan and that will ultimately prevent them from having a relationship but they will eventually settle into a mutual like and understanding
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Mar 28, 2015 02:07
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High chance Shallan/Kaladin/Adolin is a thing. Someone asked him to confirm he wasn't going to go the obvious route and make them a love triangle and he seemed taken aback by the question.
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Mar 28, 2015 04:53
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TOOT BOOT posted:High chance Shallan/Kaladin/Adolin is a thing. Someone asked him to confirm he wasn't going to go the obvious route and make them a love triangle and he seemed taken aback by the question. "I'm not a fan of the traditional love triangle. However, I am fond of conflict in relationships."
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Mar 28, 2015 04:54
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Hopeford posted:My dream scenario would be for Adolin to never become a knight Radiant but remain able to outfight most of them just on virtue by being so much better than everyone else in 1 on 1 duels. They do have that Honorblade.
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Mar 28, 2015 05:33
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My theory since I read book 2 was that, assuming Adolin's ending puts him down a "darker path", Kaladin will end up killing Adolin at some point. Just the vibe I got.
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Mar 28, 2015 06:56
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My theory is that there will be drama where Adolin catches the two making out and throws a hissyfit which will further turn him onto his path to darkness, this will force Kaladin/Dalinar to cleanse/kill Adolin at some point.
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Mar 30, 2015 12:21
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Tahirovic posted:My theory is that there will be drama where Adolin catches the two making out and throws a hissyfit which will further turn him onto his path to darkness, this will force Kaladin/Dalinar to cleanse/kill Adolin at some point. While that's not unlikely, man I'd hate that. Words of Radiance was pretty much Top Gun featuring swords instead of jets. I don't want their bromance to go out of the window for some dumb love triangle.
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tithin posted:The chapter after they I know. It's going to be awful.At least there's this Tunicate posted:"I'm not a fan of the traditional love triangle. However, I am fond of conflict in relationships."  ?Hopeford posted:While that's not unlikely, man I'd hate that. Words of Radiance was pretty much Top Gun featuring swords instead of jets. I don't want their bromance to go out of the window for some dumb love triangle. This is what I want. Kaladin gets to be Goose except he's also a badass, where Adolin is straight up Mav all day long and they're awesome badass BFFs forever. 
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Hopeford posted:While that's not unlikely, man I'd hate that. Words of Radiance was pretty much Top Gun featuring swords instead of jets. I don't want their bromance to go out of the window for some dumb love triangle. Kaladin is on the other side of the planet who knows when they will interact again. Or when we will get Sil/Pattern interaction we were robbed if by the end of book glossing.
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Captain Monkey posted:I know. Goose WAS a bad-rear end! And Meg Ryan > Kelly McGillis so even though he ended up dead, he still wins.
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Mar 30, 2015 23:54
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Tahirovic posted:My theory is that there will be drama where Adolin catches the two making out and throws a hissyfit which will further turn him onto his path to darkness, this will force Kaladin/Dalinar to cleanse/kill Adolin at some point. I swear to god if this series becomes a script for a CW show I'm going to burn it to save money on my heating bill.
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Che Delilas posted:I swear to god if this series becomes a script for a CW show I'm going to burn it to save money on my heating bill. I think the fairest complaint anyone could have is that there are very few likely outcomes that are good for Adolin. I think one of the best case scenarios would involve Shallan getting ~*~*~feelings~*~*~ for Kaladin and confronting him about it and Kaladin going "yeah i feel some of that too but uh i have, almost literally, gone through hell and now have real power to change the world for the better so i'm gonna do that and ignore all that" and that would be the end of that.
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Mar 31, 2015 06:16
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I recently watched some JAG, so I'd know plenty of other bad ways he could write this. Looking back at Sanderson's other books it's hard to guess which way he'll go.
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Mar 31, 2015 09:10
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My offhand guess is Kaladin falls for Shallan's disguise.
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Mar 31, 2015 15:23
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ruby idiot railed posted:My offhand guess is Kaladin falls for Shallan's disguise. Don't you mean safehand guess?
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Captain Monkey posted:This is what I want. Kaladin gets to be Goose except he's also a badass, where Adolin is straight up Mav all day long and they're awesome badass BFFs forever. Um what. Clearly they're Mav and Iceman. Tien and the various Tien replacements are Goose. Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fWr6CBARMw
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