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And that's why you shouldn't fly into Canada in shorts and a t-shirt. The plane apparently took out power to the airport, this could be one reason why rescue took so long. Or the passenger interviewed experience time dilatation, or whatever that psychological effect is called where your perception of time gets hosed five ways to Sunday in an emergency. E: plus yeah there were high voltage power lines strewn about and jet fuel, whichever scurry are never too keen about.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Sounds like the scene wasn't considered safe for emergency responders. What's the protocol for a crash landing anyhow? Isn't the first thing to happen the crew evacuates everyone to a safe distance for the AC? If the responders are waiting back because the pax are too close to the AC there is no way to tell them to move further away? I'm just a layperson but that sounds pretty bizarre.
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PatrickBateman posted:yay leap-1b  although I guess they're going to a different design for the -9 MAX i think
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^^ What are we looking at there? So regarding the hour it supposedly took to attend to the pax of that AC flight http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/air-canada-624-crash-landing-it-took-50-minutes-to-get-everyone-inside-1.3014034 quote:A fire truck arrived at the scene within 90 seconds of the very rough landing of the plane from Toronto. The crew first assessed the aircraft for flames, smoke or fuel leaks. When they'd established it was safe, they began to triage the "most vulnerable" passengers and brought them into the truck to keep warm. The low last night in Halifax was -6C with 20kph winds. Not exactly balmy but not -40 either.
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Ardeem posted:Ugly deltas? How far along in development does something need to have been to count? Ugly? Surely you mean awesome
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slidebite posted:Here is the CBC link Are the bright orange parts sticking out of nose and wrapped around the wing from the runway approach lights?
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rocket_350 posted:Are the bright orange parts sticking out of nose and wrapped around the wing from the runway approach lights? Certainly looks like an approach strobe. Wonder if they decided to do an approach in the dark without locking into the ILS/GS beacons.
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CommieGIR posted:Certainly looks like an approach strobe. Wonder if they decided to do an approach in the dark without locking into the ILS/GS beacons. They managed to hit a power-line and take out all the power at the airport, which is one reason the airport had some difficulty approaching the wreck with passenger transport (power lines down across a road) according to some of the reports. Given they hit a power line, taking out the approach lights would just be bonus points!
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The Locator posted:They managed to hit a power-line and take out all the power at the airport, which is one reason the airport had some difficulty approaching the wreck with passenger transport (power lines down across a road) according to some of the reports. Given they hit a power line, taking out the approach lights would just be bonus points! The approach lights and all the other avionics related stuff is has battery and generator backups. I mean, my point being is they should have been aware they were coming in too low as they should've been doing the approach based on the glideslope from the ILS. Unless Die Hard 2 was simply a prediction of things to come and the glideslope was being controlled by evil German terrorists!
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According to CBC they hit one of these poles. Oh well, at least the rescue party didn't run over survivors like they did in SFO with that 777 that had the tail strike.
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CommieGIR posted:The approach lights and all the other avionics related stuff is has battery and generator backups. 
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slidebite posted:Here is the CBC link Here's the power lines they reportedly hit. Somebody hosed up the path big-time and ended up way short of the runway. Power lines Edit; loving beaten
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ehnus posted:I was super stoked about Flight Simulator X falling from $25 to $5 until I started playing it with a keyboard and now I'm looking at $150 yokes... It's playable with an xbox controller if it comes down to it.
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Flikken posted:Die Hard 2 had an American terrorist I'm now trying to picture John McClane's Canadian name: Mark McKenzie - Matt LeClerc?
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Nebakenezzer posted:I'm now trying to picture John McClane's Canadian name: Mark McKenzie - Matt LeClerc? Doug Brassard?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgBfmdA-cVQ This video was recorded with a potato and I apologize. I was controlling arrivals/departures yesterday morning for the Corpus Christi area and I saw a flight plan come through for a heavy Airbus A330-200 landing KCRP - Corpus Christi International. We don't normally get heavies, except maybe the occasional KC-135. But, right now, our longest runway is closed for construction. Our only available runway is RY 18/36, total distance 6080ft. I was surprised we were getting such a big aircraft in the first place, let alone one willing to land on our short-ish runway. I even called ahead to Houston Center who was working the flight just to verify that the flight crew was aware what they had to work with. He queried the crew and called me back and said "They said it's all good." Ok! Thankfully, after clearing the aircraft for an approach, I was due for a break. I ran to the control tower breakroom to set up the recording of its landing before watching it myself from the tower (mobile devices were not present in the operational area for this video!). They had no issue getting it stopped within the distance remaining. In fact, they landed shorter than a lot of our regional jets do (probably because they weren't messing around with the deceleration). They were at taxi speed by 4,500ft down the runway, and exited on the taxiway just prior to the 1,000ft white markers which are visible in the video. Note there's plenty of smoke from the tires as they touch down. Again sorry for the poor quality, I just thought it was neat. The aircraft arrives from the middle-left part of the video, over the left most refinery stacks in the distance. The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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slidebite posted:^^ What are we looking at there? 737 max thrust reverser assembly
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The Ferret King posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgBfmdA-cVQ We had that Evergreen 747 Supertanker land on our crappy little 6k' runway a few years ago for an airshow and I was genuinely surprised at how quickly they were able to slow that thing down. slidebite fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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Owns so hard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEKyTxnrXIc
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I liked the A330 clip. That's the kind of thing I'd rush outside to see too. Here's my crappy iphone clip of the An-225 landing at the airport I live next door to (EGCN) a little while ago. I love the acres and acres of spoilers popping out when it touches down. Sadly it departed at night so the soundtrack was awesome but the visuals were crap! I'm sorry but I don't know how to embed it. http://youtu.be/9SbxNwg7Q7I monkeytennis fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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monkeytennis posted:Air Canada A320 had a close shave: Had to go back and check the logs on my ADS-B/Mode S software, and sure enough, this plane was within range of my receiver at 10PM last night. First entry here: 
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monkeytennis posted:I liked the A330 clip. That's the kind of thing I'd rush outside to see too. Man that's cool. I have flightaware send me texts any time it files a flight plan. It came to Houston one day but I was working, and Houston is about a 4hr drive from Corpus. I intend to travel to see it land/depart someday though. I'm transferring to Dallas later this year. Unfortunately, though I'll be working a lot more heavies, I'll be radar-only. So I guess I'll have to plane watch in my spare time. They all look the same on the radar screen.
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brains posted:i'm gonna go ahead and double down on this You, sir, are wrong.
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brains posted:i'm gonna go ahead and double down on this YOU THINK THAT'S UGLY
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I like those, although I am expecting them to transform in to walking robots any minute.
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Just on CBC news: "Recent events in Europe raise the question: would the flying public be better off if there was ~no one~ in the cockpit?" 
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Yea until Skynet augers a 797 into rural Illinois.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Just on CBC news: "Recent events in Europe raise the question: would the flying public be better off if there was ~no one~ in the cockpit?" CNN is saying the same thing. Ironically, before the whole suicide thing came to light they were worrying that -- because Airbus -- someone may have hacked into the computers and crashed the plane.
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Acid Reflux posted:Had to go back and check the logs on my ADS-B/Mode S software, and sure enough, this plane was within range of my receiver at 10PM last night. First entry here: What software is that? I'm looking for something like that to log the ADS traffic overhead. I already have the ADS set up with flightaware and flightradar 24 but they don't give logs like that!
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Spaced God posted:CNN is saying the same thing. Ironically, before the whole suicide thing came to light they were worrying that -- because Airbus -- someone may have hacked into the computers and crashed the plane. i thought it was the dreamliners that had critical systems sharing the same unprotected ethernet network as the entertainment systems
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Nebakenezzer posted:Just on CBC news: "Recent events in Europe raise the question: would the flying public be better off if there was ~no one~ in the cockpit?" But pilots are also relying too much on automation!
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PhotoKirk posted:You, sir, are wrong. holocaust bloopers posted:YOU THINK THAT'S UGLY
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Nebakenezzer posted:Just on CBC news: "Recent events in Europe raise the question: would the flying public be better off if there was ~no one~ in the cockpit?" They'd be better off not flying, yes.
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brains posted:you tards, there's ugly deltas out there. but there has never been an ugly double delta design. Technically the vulcan is a double delta (check the planform - the sweep angle changes about 3/4 out on the wing), and while I would agree with you, someone earlier called it ugly.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Yea until Skynet augers a 797 into rural Illinois. lol holy poo poo I can just imagine a General Atomics designed airliner "Yeah, uh, we didn't build in redundancies to the navigation system so....whoops." And its not like non-GA designed RPAs are any better.
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rscott posted:i thought it was the dreamliners that had critical systems sharing the same unprotected ethernet network as the entertainment systems No.
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Also, ugliest delta goes to this thing: which lead to one of the prettiest deltas This is the Handley Page p.115, a test article for Concorde technologies e: Also, earlier someone said the Fairey Delta 2 was ugly, that was only true while it had the concorde-style droop nose, later in it's life, as originally built it was sleek and beautiful: 
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two_beer_bishes posted:What software is that? I'm looking for something like that to log the ADS traffic overhead. I already have the ADS set up with flightaware and flightradar 24 but they don't give logs like that! It's Active Display Pro. I think after the GBP -> USD conversion, it was around $38 for a year subscription. It's awesome enough that I will happily renew next year. They also make a free "Lite" version, but it's really made to work with Kinetic's SBS Basestation software, and it was a real pain the rear end to get it working with anything else. I finally just bit the bullet and paid for the Pro version, which is much more robust and will talk to pretty much any other popular aircraft-related software without too much futzing around. I use the free Virtual Radar Server as my map/real-time display. Everything is saved in a local database, so you can go back and look stuff up like I did with the Air Canada flight. 
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