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Drifter posted:Metro 2033 or whatever did, and no one shoved a pickle up their rear end in a top hat. Metro 2033 came out in 2010 before any new consoles and was already graphically impressive at the time, the Redux came out in 2014 and had some nice legit enhancements from the sequel. Last Light Redux doesn't have that excuse and is honestly kinda pointless instead of scummy.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Metro 2033 came out in 2010 before any new consoles and was already graphically impressive at the time, the Redux came out in 2014 and had some nice legit enhancements from the sequel. Last Light Redux doesn't have that excuse and is honestly kinda pointless instead of scummy. They added a new melee punch animation. 
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Apr 2, 2015 06:04
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Last Light Redux doesn't have that excuse and is honestly kinda pointless instead of scummy. Why? What is the difference makes Last Light Redux not scummy and Dark Souls 2 scummy if you admit yourself that it's a pointless re-release?
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Apr 2, 2015 06:28
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CJacobs posted:Why? What is the difference makes Last Light Redux not scummy and Dark Souls 2 scummy if you admit yourself that it's a pointless re-release? The only difference that I see is maybe making the argument that you're getting all of the DLCs with DS2, but that's it. Both of the re-releases took place a year after their original release, so both studios did the same thing by "remastering" the games and charging for better graphics.
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You had to buy LL Redux separately? I thought the whole point was that both games were rekejiggered.
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kater posted:You had to buy LL Redux separately? I thought the whole point was that both games were rekejiggered. People who owned the games already got a 50% discount on the Redux versions.
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LL Redux's only gameplay change was the Bigun in the main game instead of being something relegated to DLC content. A4 is also a great studio and I wanted to give them cash as a way of support. Dark Souls 2 SOTFS suffered from a lovely PR campaign, but it's going to be a pretty fresh experience with all the non-graphics changes. Seriously, it feels like the DX11 part is the least important part of the new release.
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RhoA posted:The only difference that I see is maybe making the argument that you're getting all of the DLCs with DS2, but that's it. Both of the re-releases took place a year after their original release, so both studios did the same thing by "remastering" the games and charging for better graphics. But there's much more changed than that in Scholar of the First Sin. Like, surprisingly more. It's definitely still the same game with mostly the same geometry but the changed enemy and item placements affect the flow of the game in a refreshing way. It's a lot less lazy than people are giving it credit for. In fact the graphics changes probably should've been undersold even more than they were because the enemy changes do the true revitalizing. The only thing even remotely scummy about it is listing both versions of Scholar of the First Sin under the same name with only a line or two of text on their store pages to differentiate them. edit: And even then, if you've got eyes, you can avoid making the mistake, as dumb as it is that it's even an issue. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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CJacobs posted:But there's much more changed than that in Scholar of the First Sin. Like, surprisingly more. It's definitely still the same game with mostly the same geometry but the changed enemy and item placements affect the flow of the game in a refreshing way. It's a lot less lazy than people are giving it credit for. In fact the graphics changes probably should've been undersold even more than they were because the enemy changes do the true revitalizing. I'll probably watch a playthrough on Twitch to see how the flow has changed with the revamped enemy and item placements, but, at this point, I'll just wait for the next Steam Sale to grab it.
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Downs Duck posted:Here's a revolutionary idea: How about simply patching/updating the game that people already bought, for free? Then sell separately or include some package for those that want the Sins of the First Scholar/the DLC. The changes to the game in terms of enemy and item locations are pretty substantial and probably not something you'd want to just patch on the same client (FWIW I haven't seen much in the changes that I've agreed with from a design perspective, but that's not the point). These changes were made for the PS4 and xbox one versions of the game, and of course PC players will want the option to have those changes too, so they put the updated version on PC too. The gameplay changes mean they need a different client for scholar of the first sin, so that naturally means original DS2 and scholar players won't be on the same network. That requires separate online servers which are not free to run. Making it free would most likely be a net loss in revenue. I wish they could have made this all work on PC without splitting the community but compared to the poo poo EA and ubisoft regularly do, this doesn't even register on the scumometer. Accordion Man posted:The Redux versions of the two Metros gave you a loyalty discount if you already owned the original versions, this doesn't. Yes this does. It's $20 cheaper if you own DS2 and $30 cheaper if you own DS2 with all the DLC. I don't know what that translates to in other currencies though.
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RhoA posted:People who owned the games already got a 50% discount on the Redux versions. I think this might have been only for the pre-order period on the Redux versions because I own only the original release of Last Light and don't see a discout on Last Light Redux. Unless its baked right into the store page now and doesn't show up as a -%.
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Kibayasu posted:I think this might have been only for the pre-order period on the Redux versions because I own only the original release of Last Light and don't see a discout on Last Light Redux. Unless its baked right into the store page now and doesn't show up as a -%. It was a limited time thing, yes.
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Apr 2, 2015 07:01
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Huh, DS2SOTFS is really cheap once all the discounts are applied. DAMMIT I'M GOING IN.
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SynthOrange posted:Huh, DS2SOTFS is really cheap once all the discounts are applied. DAMMIT I'M GOING IN. Bwahahaha.
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You should, the gameplay changes are great and it feels like a new game.
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So how do I know what version of DSII to get? If I got to the page where it says "You already own this game", this one, there is no upgrade option, only the season pass and the full-priced DSII:SOTFS item without discount. While this one has both a full version and a discounted upgrade option. Any ideas?
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Nuramor posted:So how do I know what version of DSII to get? The bottom link is the one you want. The one that links from the Dark Souls 2 page is the DX9 version. CJacobs posted:
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Nuramor posted:While this one has both a full version and a discounted upgrade option. The discounted upgrade of that (335300). It needs 64bit Windows and a DX11 card. The correct answer of course is to not buy anything unless it's on 75+% sale 
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CJacobs posted:The bottom link is the one you want. The one that links from the Dark Souls 2 page is the DX9 version. I can see in your quoted post that you have an *actual* discount on the upgrade. That is because of already owned DLC, right?
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Nuramor posted:I can see in your quoted post that you have an *actual* discount on the upgrade. That is because of already owned DLC, right? There are 3 tiers of discounts on Scholar of the First Sin DX11: 1. Don't own DS2 in any form: $50, base price (you won't be able to buy from the upgrade link on the store page if this is the case obv.) 2. Own DS2 with no or some of the DLC: $30 3. Own DS2 with all of the DLC: $20 The DX9 version of Scholar of the First Sin will always be $40 and there's no discount. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Apr 2, 2015 09:07
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I got DS2 and the season pass and the discounted price for SOTFS was $16.
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SynthOrange posted:I got DS2 and the season pass and the discounted price for SOTFS was $16. I had the same and it was 20 for me! Are you talking USD or some other form of D?
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USD, but I'm in australia. Hm.
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So I bought Talos Principle on a whim and I'm glad I did. Everything from the presentation to the puzzles are fantastic. The fact you can choose to have Sam be the voice over is icing on the cake. Still not sure what Stars do but I'm sure it will become apparent.
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If I have Metro 2033 already but haven't played it, is it work getting the Redux version? I'm just now getting a computer that can run either one.
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RichterIX posted:If I have Metro 2033 already but haven't played it, is it work getting the Redux version? I'm just now getting a computer that can run either one. For 2033, definitely; Redux updates it to the Last Light engine and improves the stealth quite a bit. It's Last Light Redux that isn't particularly worth it.
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I saw on Reddit that Dark Souls 2 has a bug where your items' durability degrades faster at higher fps, and that the bug isn't fixed in Scholar of the First Sin, and since SotFS runs at a reliable 60 fps the bug is reliably worse than before. People are "fixing" the bug by capping their games at 30 fps 
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Fun Times! posted:I saw on Reddit that Dark Souls 2 has a bug where your items' durability degrades faster at higher fps, and that the bug isn't fixed in Scholar of the First Sin, and since SotFS runs at a reliable 60 fps the bug is reliably worse than before. This is the exact same situation/solution as DX9 DS2, so literally nothing has changed. 
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Don't the new console versions run at 60 now? You think they would have fixed it for that reason alone.
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Gamestop US has Riddick Steam keys for $5. You can also fill your library with all sorts of terrible hunting games. Bargain.
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Convex posted:FUEL, Lost Planet 1.5 and 2, Virtua Tennis 4, Mortal Kombat Kollection, and Fallout 3 (although that one is easy to fix at least). Probably some others I forgot. GTA4 I'm one of those weird people that really liked GTA4, but fighting with GFWL puts me off ever playing it again. Ever. 
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Tecman is a balla from Valhalla when it comes to the Talos Principle. Once I blast through Pillars of Eternity I can finally go back to controller games with this and relax on the couch. Thanks!
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Snuffman posted:GTA4 Same here, only the GFWL integration didn't really bother me too much. What puts me off from playing it again is the quality of the PC port. It's so poorly optimized, I doubt the computer I have now will run it properly.
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Fun Times! posted:I saw on Reddit that Dark Souls 2 has a bug where your items' durability degrades faster at higher fps, and that the bug isn't fixed in Scholar of the First Sin, and since SotFS runs at a reliable 60 fps the bug is reliably worse than before. I didn't know this was a bug. I just thought everyone had to carry around two sets of weapons because equipment durability was a thing again like in Shadow Tower Abyss. Kinda like an added difficulty. Usually in boss fights I'd have to switch weapons halfway through, and it made it that much more dynamic and interesting. I mean your weapons repair automatically when you rest, so I can't see how durability would even be a thing if it didn't go down as fast as it does.
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Unbearable posted:Gamestop US has Riddick Steam keys for $5. Dangerous Hunts 2013 is unironically a fun game and a blast to play so get on this corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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If the idea of bullet-time shooting a demonic lion right in the heart doesn't appeal to you then you've lost your will to live
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CountingWizard posted:I didn't know this was a bug. I just thought everyone had to carry around two sets of weapons because equipment durability was a thing again like in Shadow Tower Abyss. Kinda like an added difficulty. Usually in boss fights I'd have to switch weapons halfway through, and it made it that much more dynamic and interesting. I mean your weapons repair automatically when you rest, so I can't see how durability would even be a thing if it didn't go down as fast as it does. I always thought it was intentional, and that the bug was actually the lowered durability drain in the console version.
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Max Wilco posted:Same here, only the GFWL integration didn't really bother me too much. What puts me off from playing it again is the quality of the PC port. It's so poorly optimized, I doubt the computer I have now will run it properly. My current computer will run it fine. I don't have actual FPS stats but it seems alright, but at the same time it has moments that just feel choppy or janky, and I don't know if it's just the age of the game or if there's still some bugginess in the port code.
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Riddick is a legit awesome game made by Starbreeze, who also made the cool Darkness game. They really make you feel like a very dangerous person without having to resort to making everyone else made of paper. The combat is pretty cool, too. It's like Condemned but instead of beating up hobos you beat up maximum security prisoners and Xzibit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Ah4vPDR5k Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Luisfe posted:I always thought it was intentional, and that the bug was actually the lowered durability drain in the console version. Nope. Durability damage when hitting anything other than enemies is calculated by how many frames the item spends clipping with the corpse/wall/whatever you hit.
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