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Im so excited for this! If people are still giving out keys via wait list, I'd love a US key and would really appreciate it. You can pm me or email me at spartaus at gmail.com Clarification: my email is correct as written. TheSpartacus fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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So I fully pimp fit my fuso and decided to take it for a spin. Map was North, and by the time a Kongo on the other team had figured out he should dodge he was down to 1/3rd HP. I then nearly wipe an Omaha out in one salvo (hint, going half speed in a cruiser on the firing line is a bad idea). I turn back to help at cap but I'm not needed, and swing down the leftmost gap between islands to get back to the 1-2 line fight. This is of course a mistake and I eat two torpedoes from a destroyer, but I otherwise get through, and start firing at another Fuso at extreme range. I switch broadsides, and whaddya know, the rear turrets are pointing the right way to deal with the return of the destroyer and I get him to back off after a bad salvo from each of us. At this point a Cleveland on our team chimes in how we're going to lose because I suck as I merrily put a few salvoes and a citadel hit into a fleeing carrier and shift to making it rain on the fuso. He maintains that I'm bad as I drop three straight salvoes on a maneuvering Fuso at 20 km to kill it, and then turn and pick off the destroyer as it comes back in. End Result:    (And no, the cleveland talking smack wasn't the one with 1900 xp, it was the one with 900 xp.) Apparently consistent hits from 20k are actually the other guy and citadel hits are RNG.
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Apr 6, 2015 06:30
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I've been having issues with ghost ships in my long-range bombardment on the Fuso. Still learning to lead my targets better. While the Fuso's less accurate than the Kongo, it does have 2 more guns which means 4 more shots. It's better as a 10km-ish brawler in that regard.
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Apr 6, 2015 06:45
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EponymousMrYar posted:I've been having issues with ghost ships in my long-range bombardment on the Fuso. Still learning to lead my targets better. Outside 12k or so you're trying to drop the salvo on the tip of their bow basically for battleships. I was actually getting solid results at longer range when I got the feel for that. I know it's turboheresy but I want out of my cleveland because the heavy cruisers feel more like pocket battleships that don't have to wait a week to fire again and shoot straight, and I like battleships.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:13
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TheSpartacus posted:Im so excited for this! If people are still giving out keys via wait list, I'd love a US key and would really appreciate it. You can pm me or email me at spartaus at gmail.com I don't think there are any keys left, but if someone jumps in the thread and says they have 10 to give out, I'll work through the thread and make sure everyone is on the list.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:25
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So I just ran into a pair of pubbies who think charging dead on into a Cleveland in a destroyer is a good idea. Thanks for the XP I guess?
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Apr 6, 2015 07:28
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AA in higher tier games makes me sad. Watching a BB mulch my bombers uncool.  And if you accidentally wonder into a cruiser's AA range welp enjoy your super huge torpedo fan (that will probably consist of like 3 torpedoes since the rest of the squadron died).xthetenth posted:I know it's turboheresy but I want out of my cleveland because the heavy cruisers feel more like pocket battleships that don't have to wait a week to fire again and shoot straight, and I like battleships.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:47
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Outside of the Phoenix there hasn't been a particular ship I've disliked in that line. I guess once you get the Des Moines the Baltimore will start to feel sort of underwhelming if you still have it and it still pulls the short straw in MM.
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Apr 6, 2015 08:20
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Tuco22 posted:Outside of the Phoenix there hasn't been a particular ship I've disliked in that line. I guess once you get the Des Moines the Baltimore will start to feel sort of underwhelming if you still have it and it still pulls the short straw in MM. I dislike the St. Louis because it's too slow. This is why I torture myself with high-tier destroyers and Japanese cruisers.
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Apr 6, 2015 08:35
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:I dislike the St. Louis because it's too slow. This is why I torture myself with high-tier destroyers and Japanese cruisers. Slow ships suck really hard, I understand (I say as I desperately wish for slow-rear end US battleships).
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Apr 6, 2015 08:47
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xthetenth posted:Slow ships suck really hard, I understand (I say as I desperately wish for slow-rear end US battleships).  21 knots gonna suck so hard
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Apr 6, 2015 09:04
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Fast like a Kawachi, but god is it going to be nice being in a well laid out ship. I want my New Mexico back. At least you've got good range with BB guns.
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Apr 6, 2015 09:29
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Has anyone gotten a list of what modifications are worthwhile and which are terrible? The wording on some is poor enough that I can't tell if they nerf or buff stats. Also, I can't see anyone in Teamspeak. I get the following: <17:35:10> insufficient client permissions (failed on i_client_max_channel_subscriptions) <17:35:17> insufficient client permissions (failed on b_channel_join_permanent) vvv Radical. Shalhavet fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Shalhavet posted:Has anyone gotten a list of what modifications are worthwhile and which are terrible? The wording on some is poor enough that I can't tell if they nerf or buff stats. This has been resolved.
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Poil posted:I'm sure the average botes player could manage that just fine. Or... do you intend to go with the full 1300 crew experience? Either way the lag might be an issue. I was thinking more that the number of crew would act as HP and efficiency modifiers for individual "crew" representation (and all crew can serve in some form of damage control capacity, even if the dedicated DC crew is better). Lose 50% of a "Gunners" crew (HP) and efficiency drops off - with your medical station (and medical crew!) trying to patch things up (from a pool of wounded). You can speed things up by just sending a full crew counter over to the medical station, at the cost of not being able to use that crew for awhile (so either that Gun station goes offline/greatly reduced efficieny or you plug it with some other crew counter). Fires and above the citadel hits would get a lot more scary if they are taking chunks out of your fighting efficiency and damage control ability. (All this just so we can have a casualties tracker for individual ships and each side of a battle display at the end of a match) Not that Wargaming will do anything like that, 95% of players would run their battleships aground trying to manage crew while exchanging fire and dodging torpedo bombers  Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Apr 6, 2015 09:39
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Shalhavet posted:Has anyone gotten a list of what modifications are worthwhile and which are terrible? The wording on some is poor enough that I can't tell if they nerf or buff stats. Never not buff main battery accuracy unless you have a serious need for more AA effectiveness. Making your reloads longer for faster turret turn isn't worth it at all. Making your magazine more durable is always right. I personally feel reducing the chance of flooding and fire is the right pick, but steering engine and engine crits do suck. I always go with faster rudder shift time, but I do think there is a case to be made for faster passive recovery times, especially on battleships where a fire is easily survivable and cooldowns are long enough flooding could be hellish.
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Shalhavet posted:Has anyone gotten a list of what modifications are worthwhile and which are terrible? The wording on some is poor enough that I can't tell if they nerf or buff stats. The 10%+ load time is a nerf in exchange for faster turret turn rate. Everything else ought to be straightforward. It sucks that you can't pimp out a Kongo with more crap. That ship is phenomenal. xthetenth posted:Slow ships suck really hard, I understand (I say as I desperately wish for slow-rear end US battleships). My gut feeling tells me that 16-inch guns at tier 5 will be the most frustrating thing in the world, but I cannot turn down more ships.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:My gut feeling tells me that 16-inch guns at tier 5 will be the most frustrating thing in the world, but I cannot turn down more ships. 16 inch guns? Colorado's a 7. Speed is 23 knots or below unless noted. Michigan (South Carolina for people who don't use goofy designations) is 8x12" with two front and two rear turrets. Arkansas is 12x12" with two front turrets, two amidships facing aft and two rear turrets. I guess be a slow Myagi or something. New York is 10x14" with two front turrets, one amidships facing aft, and two rear turrets. Come to think of this, it's probably good for trying to get as much time as possible against destroyers that you have more guns aft. New Mexico is 12x14" with two front turrets and two aft turrets. Much better deck armor than the Fuso, which doesn't get its refit counted apparently. Colorado is 8x16" with two front turrets and two aft turrets. North Carolina is 9x16" with two front turrets and one aft turret and gets up to 27 knots. Iowa is 9x16" with two front turrets and one aft turret and gets up to 33 knots, and is probably the fastest battleship the game will have. Montana is 12x16" with two front and two aft turrets. Speed is likely 28 knots. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Apr 6, 2015 09:59
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xthetenth posted:16 inch guns? Colorado's a 7. 
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Apr 6, 2015 10:06
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 Hell of a game to finish this ship off. Love me some sky cancer.
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God dammit. That's a sign I should've been asleep two (aft turrets) hours ago.Shalhavet posted:
I want to love sky cancer, but it's exactly as good as your targets aren't, and I don't enjoy the huge gap in results that leads to.
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xthetenth posted:Fast like a Kawachi, but god is it going to be nice being in a well laid out ship. I want my New Mexico back. xthetenth posted:I want to love sky cancer, but it's exactly as good as your targets aren't, and I don't enjoy the huge gap in results that leads to. 
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Apr 6, 2015 10:39
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Nah, there's only so much you can do right now as a CV driver in the higher tiers. Those AA fields start getting ridiculous and it's not like you can do much to negate them short of bum rushing and hoping your aim is true/no one decides to turn. Not really sure how to get around that without giving CV drivers more tools to affect their air groups approach (speed boost? Larger air groups?) when everyone and their uncle can pop planes no matter what you do. Wouldn't be so bad if you weren't restricted to maybe 2-4 "attacks" per game. Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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I finally got a Cleveland recently. Played a few matches with it and it seems so much better than its IJN counterpart. I knew the Cleveland had nice AA (from losing many torp bombers as a carrier) but I wasn't fully prepared to what it could actually do. 2 Squads of torpedo planes tried to fly right over me. I had not seen them comming, so when all the AA batteries opened up I was really surprised. I activated the Cruiser's AA ability only to see the 2 squads of torpedo's disappear. Only 1 plane made it back alive.EponymousMrYar posted:I've been having issues with ghost ships in my long-range bombardment on the Fuso. Still learning to lead my targets better. 8 to 12 km is a great range for the Fuso. At 8, you aim for the water line of a ship, at around 12, you can still get some plunging fire. Outside of those ranges (farther anyways) the Fuso becomes rather useless. The spread it just too bad and its not uncommong to have a perfect lead on a ship and still miss every shot.
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Dalael posted:I finally got a Cleveland recently. Played a few matches with it and it seems so much better than its IJN counterpart. I knew the Cleveland had nice AA (from losing many torp bombers as a carrier) but I wasn't fully prepared to what it could actually do. 2 Squads of torpedo planes tried to fly right over me. I had not seen them comming, so when all the AA batteries opened up I was really surprised. I activated the Cruiser's AA ability only to see the 2 squads of torpedo's disappear. Only 1 plane made it back alive. Even though the Cleveland's AA is a bit overwhelming right now, they really do feel like they're intended to be stuck on the side of a battleship as a consumable and be used as an AA battery. Against Battleships, the small caliber of the guns make it hard to punch through armor, and even the Myogi can tear out huge chunks of its HP at any given time, as I've found out playing mine. The Aoba with its better range and small maneuverability boost fair better at the long-range battleship support role, though I don't feel like it chews up planes as fast. Instead, the Cleveland has so many guns, and the caliber is just so right to fight its tier counterparts, it can safely ignore its original prerogative and do what it actually does best in-game; ignore protecting the battleships, and murder Cruisers/Destroyers disgustingly fast. Crash74 posted:WOW the anime nuts and poney fuckers on the beta forums, is it always this bad on there? Why... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX4c61ZZGFc Try saying "Poi." in the game sometime. People blow the hell up in anger even though they don't really know anything about it, for no reason really. Works every time. OSad fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Apr 6, 2015 17:16
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I mean who doesn't love poi?
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OSad posted:Even though the Cleveland's AA is a bit overwhelming right now, they really do feel like they're intended to be stuck on the side of a battleship as a consumable and be used as an AA battery. Against Battleships, the small caliber of the guns make it hard to punch through armor, and even the Myogi can tear out huge chunks of its HP at any given time, as I've found out playing mine. The Aoba with its better range and small maneuverability boost fair better at the long-range battleship support role, though I don't feel like it chews up planes as fast. The reason I find that Cleveland fairs worse against Battleships then Aoba is that Battleships know the Cleveland will eat them up if they leave it alive and target them first. You can improve your BB lines chance of winning just by diving around like idiot at 18km from the other sides BB line in a Cleveland. As half of the other team will stop shooting at your BBs and fail to shoot you until they sink. If the BBs don't shoot at you can close to 10km ish and drop the hurt on anything t6 and under. The guns are small, but they can still pound BBs as long as you're dropping rounds on the deck instead of trying to shoot through the sides. Hagop fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Apr 6, 2015 18:46
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There is no reason that they shouldn't have more players in this test. As it stands going against something 4 tiers higher is an effort in futility. Even more so when you are talking carriers. Edit: This honestly isn't a fun game to play alone either. Zotix fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Apr 6, 2015 19:40
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Supposedly there's a patch dropping tomorrow that adds piasters, premium ships, bug fixes, and some balance changes. Any euros wanna confirm that? It was posted on the EU forums, but apparently the US community manager went on vacation or something without telling anyone.
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Apr 6, 2015 19:50
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Vengarr posted:Supposedly there's a patch dropping tomorrow that adds piasters, premium ships, bug fixes, and some balance changes. Any euros wanna confirm that? It was posted on the EU forums, but apparently the US community manager went on vacation or something without telling anyone.
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Vengarr posted:Supposedly there's a patch dropping tomorrow that adds piasters, premium ships, bug fixes, and some balance changes. Any euros wanna confirm that? It was posted on the EU forums, but apparently the US community manager went on vacation or something without telling anyone. I looked at the EU forums for this and for that, I will never forgive you.
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Burt posted:I looked at the EU forums for this and for that, I will never forgive you. TheFluff posted:I don't see anything about this on the EU forums. The first two victims. Patients Zero? E: Insert name here posted:He might be referring to this https://eu.wargaming.net/support/News/NewsItem/View/395/world-of-warships---0303-patch-release Don't ruin it. Making people go through Wargaming's BS to find the one or two actually useful things is funny. subhelios fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Apr 6, 2015 21:09
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He might be referring to this https://eu.wargaming.net/support/News/NewsItem/View/395/world-of-warships---0303-patch-release
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OSad posted:Try saying "Poi." in the game sometime. People blow the hell up in anger even though they don't really know anything about it, for no reason really. Works every time. Sadly this is usually less amusing than I hope for.
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I'm pretty sure the appropriate response to that sort of thing is asking whether they've successfully impregnated their pillow, and inquire as to whether it's rude to ask what their kid's thread count will be.Insert name here posted:He might be referring to this https://eu.wargaming.net/support/News/NewsItem/View/395/world-of-warships---0303-patch-release Yeah, I've seen indications it's soon, but WG's being super secretive for some reason.
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Is there an appropriate way to get close with a battleship to another battleship to bring the derpy guns to bear? Or is it better to attempt to hit at long range? I really have no clue how to properly play one.xthetenth posted:and inquire as to whether it's rude to ask what their kid's thread count will be.
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Apr 6, 2015 21:42
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Poil posted:Was that an intentional Kill La Kill reference (sort of)? very nice username/post combo
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Poil posted:Is there an appropriate way to get close with a battleship to another battleship to bring the derpy guns to bear? Or is it better to attempt to hit at long range? I really have no clue how to properly play one. Approach at an angle, preferably one you can bring all your guns to bear while they can't, since they'll either turn to bring everything to bear and give you better shots on their flat armor or they'll turn away and give you an opportunity for raking shots along their length. The derpy secondaries are mainly for punishing cruisers/DD's for getting too close though they can certainly contribute to BB on BB pseudo-violence. They won't do nearly as much damage as a main gun salvo though I've finished ships off with them. Figure out where you're good at predicting shots while dodging others and try to stay at that range/shell travel time. It's different for every BB I've found up to the Fuso (still working on Nagato.)
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EponymousMrYar posted:Approach at an angle, preferably one you can bring all your guns to bear while they can't, since they'll either turn to bring everything to bear and give you better shots on their flat armor or they'll turn away and give you an opportunity for raking shots along their length. The derpy secondaries are mainly for punishing cruisers/DD's for getting too close though they can certainly contribute to BB on BB pseudo-violence. They won't do nearly as much damage as a main gun salvo though I've finished ships off with them.
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