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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Jack Gladney posted:

And yet he does a recurring character on Family Guy.

Which he can do near his family. Doing live acting and voice acting are too different things.

bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Apr 6, 2015

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InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice
In his defence, it's pretty easy for Lynch to demonstrate to execs why they need him to be involved first and foremost --all he has to do is tell them to actually watch the second season and compare the show to what it was like when he was there and what it was like when he was not.

On the subject, I hope he sent his budget demands to them inside a giant paper mache chess piece.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Seems like we'll have to wait a while to find out what really happened here. You'd really need to know details to figure out if Lynch is just asking for the moon and refusing to accept anything less, or if Showtime is trying to poo poo out a revival show on the cheap and Lynch doesn't want to be a part of it.

redmedicine
Mar 7, 2015

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Well aren't his scripts fully written?


i believe so but i was referring more to the undertaking of going from years of relative inactivity on the directorial tip to then directing 9+ hours of new material. maybe he wasn't feeling it

just talkin out my rear end

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Cromulent posted:

Louis CK's story about trying to get Lynch to do a guest spot on his show gives a little bit of an insight of what it's like getting Lynch to finalize something:

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/louis-c-k-and-the-ballad-of-jack-dall/?smid=tw-share

Honestly Louis CK could direct a pretty good season of Twin Peaks, for cheaper than Lynch. I'd trust him with it over anyone else.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


For anyone who hasn't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwUmXT3RJCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qob3FTPJ7cM

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



I hate the taboo against naming dollar amounts. I'd really like to see between the two, who's being unreasonable here. I wouldn't figure Showtime as trying to lowball anything that's generating this much publicity already, but I also wouldn't think Lynch would need that much to make this series.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
I read a couple weeks ago that the reason negotiations stalled was because Lynch was asking for a huge cut of the home video and streaming royalties. I'd believe that rather than it being over some budget issue. Just because Lynch is an artist doesn't mean he's immune to dollar signs.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Well now he gets nothing, so

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

Data Graham posted:

Well now he gets nothing, so

No, he'll get paid as originator of the series/producer/writer. He still gets a cut but it will be smaller. If he was director he would get more and so would the network....

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Origami Dali posted:

I'd believe that rather than it being over some budget issue. Just because Lynch is an artist doesn't mean he's immune to dollar signs.

I don't really have a problem with this. He's nearly 70. He's paid his dues. The show lives and dies by him.

If I were Lynch and I was seeing comparative hacks like JJ Abrams being treated like gods, I'd demand whatever the gently caress I wanted too, especially if somebody wanted me to revive something I had created previously that was well respected and loved.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Thing is, budget amounts and potential revenues mean jack poo poo to the public, because even tv production doesn't really know what's required or how things will end up. It's all educated guesswork. So unless there's a production accountant out there, I doubt number would make much sense to us.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sherilyn Fenn is creepily involved in this, even setting up a Facebook page dedicated to saving it.

https://www.facebook.com/savetwinpeaks

Props to her though for not just looking to cash a paycheck and calling it in.

e; https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=885752348164289

Also this is crazy. LUCY aged the best. Hot drat.

Empress Brosephine fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Apr 8, 2015

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I'm actually not surprised that one or several actors would back Lynch up, I'm just surprised Kyle Maclachlan hasn't really spoke up or said anything. I imagine Maclachlan's just taking the pragmatic and professional approach.

Isn't the script by Lynch (and/or Mark Frost and whoever else) already written and they're just waiting for production to start? I think as long as they don't bring in anybody from Showtime to gently caress with the show or make changes or cuts to the writing then it should be fine. God help us if anybody involved with Dexter gets their hands on it. I really shouldn't even joke about that.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
I was not expecting that video.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Abu Dave posted:

Sherilyn Fenn is creepily involved in this, even setting up a Facebook page dedicated to saving it.

https://www.facebook.com/savetwinpeaks

Props to her though for not just looking to cash a paycheck and calling it in.

e; https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=885752348164289

Also this is crazy. LUCY aged the best. Hot drat.

She types like Audrey speaks, and like I imagine Audrey types. Is it just like if the internet came along after you'd already reached a certain age, you just have no idea how to communicate with it or on it?

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
So when are people gonna start mailing logs to Showtime? Or owls?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Garmonbozia. Envelope upon envelope full of garmonbozia.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Jack Gladney posted:

Garmonbozia. Envelope upon envelope full of garmonbozia.

This is clearly the answer.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer

Abu Dave posted:

Sherilyn Fenn is creepily involved in this, even setting up a Facebook page dedicated to saving it.

https://www.facebook.com/savetwinpeaks

Props to her though for not just looking to cash a paycheck and calling it in.

e; https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=885752348164289

Also this is crazy. LUCY aged the best. Hot drat.

drat, Mike grew up fine. :swoon:

doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks
I didn't watch the whole thing but did nobody really say "Twin Peaks without David Lynch is like the second season of Twin Peaks" lol

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

King Vidiot posted:

I'm actually not surprised that one or several actors would back Lynch up, I'm just surprised Kyle Maclachlan hasn't really spoke up or said anything. I imagine Maclachlan's just taking the pragmatic and professional approach.

Other than the twitter post he made when it was first announced, and then when it was announced that he'd signed on, Maclachlan felt conspicuously absent from any of the hype that the other actors were doing. But I guess his career is solid enough it's not as big a deal for him, maybe.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
Not entirely absent -- he sent out a bunch of happy tweets that indicated he was totally on board.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I can see them trying to get David Lynch in as a consultant if this directing stuff doesn't work out.

I'm honestly surprised this is having pre-production troubles. You'd think Showtime would want to get something out there to capitalize on the whole murder-mystery with character drama thing. True Detective showed that people will eat that stuff up. Twin Peaks just happens to have weirder characters, is all.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Jimbot posted:

Twin Peaks just happens to have weirder characters, is all.

Or did it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVV0LWIfGwk

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

I dunno, the SAVETWINPEAKS video makes me kinda hopeful. Lynch tweeted that he called the actors individually to inform them that he is not directing, they must know a little more about whats going on than the press and wouldn't be doing something like this if the situation is irreparable.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Jack Gladney posted:

Garmonbozia. Envelope upon envelope full of garmonbozia.

No actually let's do that.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

You know... I'm just extrapolating from my own experiences a bit here (which is probably a bad idea) but Lynch strikes me as someone who (based on everything I've read) probably lives his day-to-day life with a fair amount of anxiety or perhaps a lack of confidence in his abilities. That whole Louis thing certainly came across that way. I mean, we all know Lynch is very shy and compulsive - when he was making Eraserhead I remember he was known for ordering the same thing at the same table at the same Big Boy's every day for something like 10 years straight? That's amusing but also extremely compulsive behavior; I also understand it totally because it's tremendously comforting, and Lynch is someone who always has struck me as finding comfort in the predictable banality of routine and life that he's accustomed to.

I remember at one point for a few years he posted a daily video report (like a 1-minute video) of what the weather was like in L.A. where he lives. And bear in mind the weather is almost always exactly the same in that area of Southrn California, year-round, day-in and day-out. If you recall back when he had a pay website in like, the mid-00s? Those vids were one of the things behind the paywall, if I remember correctly. And there were hundreds and hundreds of them. David Lynch in front of a webcam in the same place every time, sometimes smoking a cigarette or drinking coffee, "Uh.. today is April the eighth, two-thousand-fifteen. Weather outside is... Nice! Some clouds to the west. Lovely sunshine to the east. 74 degrees out." And that's it.

Actually, here's a random one; he uploaded a bunch to youtube once but took them down I think. Imagine literally a thousand variations on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0yGes5wBSY

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
I would watch this every day if he lived in my city, even if I wasn't looking for actual weather info. gently caress, I would probably have watched that every day back then if I had known about it. His voice is magic.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

Jordan7hm posted:

I would watch this every day if he lived in my city, even if I wasn't looking for actual weather info. gently caress, I would probably have watched that every day back then if I had known about it. His voice is magic.

They were legitimately awesome, I actually subscribed to his website for the sole purpose of watching them. And I live in Maine!

I just found one of my all-time favorites from back in 2006 when his webcam was adorably low-res:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxT4ZxWuSZc

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

kaworu posted:

They were legitimately awesome, I actually subscribed to his website for the sole purpose of watching them. And I live in Maine!

I just found one of my all-time favorites from back in 2006 when his webcam was adorably low-res:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxT4ZxWuSZc

Wow I hadn't seen this one, its pretty loving great hahaha. Anyway yeah there is no way Twin Peaks happens without Lynch now I think. Showtime better put up the cash.

E: that facebook video is pretty insane

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Those clips make the start of this sketch make so much more sense:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/3374596cf8/david-lynch-presents-new-twin-peaks-blu-ray

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Oh man, the weather reports. I remember those. The Internet's not as odd as it used to be.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Thanks for posting those links, I was just telling my friends about them the other day and they didn't believe me about him making them.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



I feel like, at this point, we could just crowdfund Twin Peaks.

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

I wonder if all the interior set pieces for Twin Peaks still exist, or if any of the outdoor locations have become unrecognizable over the years. I could see Lynch demanding perfect clones of each set being reconstructed, down to relatively minor settings.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



kaworu posted:

They were legitimately awesome, I actually subscribed to his website for the sole purpose of watching them. And I live in Maine!

I just found one of my all-time favorites from back in 2006 when his webcam was adorably low-res:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxT4ZxWuSZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD27a2iZFHE

This is the best.

David Lynch is the best.

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5SHjEdJ87g
This too.

Friends Are Evil fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 8, 2015

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

crowoutofcontext posted:

I wonder if all the interior set pieces for Twin Peaks still exist, or if any of the outdoor locations have become unrecognizable over the years. I could see Lynch demanding perfect clones of each set being reconstructed, down to relatively minor settings.

There's no reason for it to be perfect clones, it's set 25 years later after all. The town, like the characters/actors, would have aged in real time.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Rabbit Hill posted:

drat, Mike grew up fine. :swoon:

I saw him as Matt Gilardi in Six Feet Under first, so I can't see him in Twin Peaks without imagining him as a young Gilardi.

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Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!

crowoutofcontext posted:

I wonder if all the interior set pieces for Twin Peaks still exist, or if any of the outdoor locations have become unrecognizable over the years. I could see Lynch demanding perfect clones of each set being reconstructed, down to relatively minor settings.

No need to wonder, In Twin Peaks has you covered.

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