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A Boney would be a really good enemy for that, if their AI doesn't get touched in Afterbirth.
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If you can't capture a boss after weakening them there's no point.
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Apr 7, 2015 10:23
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Cool 100 more lovely items and a whole new character with even shittier mechanics coming right up!
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Apr 7, 2015 19:00
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YF-23 posted:If you can't capture a boss after weakening them there's no point. Maybe if they made it so you can catch bosses when they become common enemies in Sheol/Cathedral on? Capturing an Adversary would be hilarious.
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Apr 7, 2015 19:06
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Xeras posted:Cool 100 more lovely items and a whole new character with even shittier mechanics coming right up! Yeah because that's all the 100 additional items and new characters in Rebirth turned out to be!
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Apr 7, 2015 20:32
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I'm sure some people actually think that.
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The new character actually has literally no health, so you always die on the starting screen.IronicDongz posted:I'm sure some people actually think that. They're free to go back to Flash Isaac. Is that developer for the flash game still working on his silly update?
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I do wonder how the new items will have any affect on The Lost. They could either make the character a lot easier or a lot worse, it just depends on what they end up doing since The Lost already has problems with the item pool having too many items that are useless for it. But hey, I'm done with The Lost so I can just be excited for new content without reservation.
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Apr 8, 2015 09:35
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You won't be done with the Lost when Afterbirth adds more stuff that you need to kill with every character.
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Apr 8, 2015 11:30
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YF-23 posted:You won't be done with the Lost when Afterbirth adds more stuff that you need to kill with every character. I bet we're gonna see an unlock/achievement for beating Mega Satan with the Lost. 
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Apr 8, 2015 13:27
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I will be done with the Lost because I don't care what they add to it, I'm not playing as that piece of poo poo ever again. It's not even close to fun.
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Apr 8, 2015 13:30
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If I have to beat Mega Satan with the Lost I will just use cheat engine and be done with it.
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Apr 8, 2015 13:52
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TheModernAmerican posted:If I have to beat Mega Satan with the Lost I will just use cheat engine and be done with it. Blank card + Chaos card.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:39
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Just started playing this and managed to unlock Azazel (who makes the runs trivial since he can just fly over everything, and getting that item that turns his attack into a ring of death that can be moved around the screen with the right stick makes it even more trivial), but what's all this talk about Mega Satan and stuff? Every run I do sends me straight to Mom and ending credits.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:11
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Wade Wilson posted:Just started playing this and managed to unlock Azazel (who makes the runs trivial since he can just fly over everything, and getting that item that turns his attack into a ring of death that can be moved around the screen with the right stick makes it even more trivial), but what's all this talk about Mega Satan and stuff? Every run I do sends me straight to Mom and ending credits.  You have much to learn.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:19
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Cephalocidal posted:Blank card + Chaos card. I have never hit anything once with the Chaos Card. It goes in a random direction, not the way it's supposed to. And I know it's random, because I've seen it go off at a diagonal in a direction I've not moved or fired in.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:21
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Cephalocidal posted:Blank card + Chaos card. You still have to get there
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Jedit posted:I have never hit anything once with the Chaos Card. It goes in a random direction, not the way it's supposed to. And I know it's random, because I've seen it go off at a diagonal in a direction I've not moved or fired in. That's definitely not the way it's supposed to work. It always fires in the direction I last moved in. I've also never seen it go diagonal. Do use use a keyboard or a controller?
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Fedule posted:
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Most everything comes from just playing more. You unlock more end bosses and later floors by beating the bosses more, and you unlock characters through various gameplay methods. Just beat Mom more, then start beating the boss after that, then start beating the bosses after that, etc etc.
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Wade Wilson posted:Just started playing this and managed to unlock Azazel (who makes the runs trivial since he can just fly over everything, and getting that item that turns his attack into a ring of death that can be moved around the screen with the right stick makes it even more trivial), but what's all this talk about Mega Satan and stuff? Every run I do sends me straight to Mom and ending credits. Adorable.
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I really disagree that the Lost isn't fun at all, the problem is that there's just so many useless items for him that getting anything going is such a pain in the rear end. But when I was able to get one going I found it to be possibly the most fun I had in the game. Every room was so intense even if you were powered up cause one wrong move and you're dead. And I'm the type of player who makes lots of dumb errors. But a lot of it is just trying in vain to get items that are actually useful and to me that's the unfun part of the lost.
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Is there any point to seeds other than just loving around? Did a few runs with "C0CK FGHT" for the hell of it just to watch everything going nuts killing each other (which was pretty funny in any boss fight rooms with multiple bodies) but don't really see much point to the seeds beyond that. Also, what is the point of the donation box? Got "Store Upgraded to level 1" but haven't seen any real benefits yet.
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Apr 8, 2015 16:40
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You can play the same seed with a friend to see what you both do differently with the same scenario. The store gets bigger and gets more items as you donate more.
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Wade Wilson posted:Is there any point to seeds other than just loving around? Did a few runs with "C0CK FGHT" for the hell of it just to watch everything going nuts killing each other (which was pretty funny in any boss fight rooms with multiple bodies) but don't really see much point to the seeds beyond that. You have to get to 999 coins donated to unlock a load of items. Also it upgrades the shop every now and then which expands the amount/quality of items you can buy. Just be sure to bomb the machine immediately after it gets to 999 because if you donate your 1000th coin, it rolls over to 0 and you have nothing left 
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Alabaster White posted:You have to get to 999 coins donated to unlock a load of items. Also it upgrades the shop every now and then which expands the amount/quality of items you can buy. Just be sure to bomb the machine immediately after it gets to 999 because if you donate your 1000th coin, it rolls over to 0 and you have nothing left That's going to take a while, I've only got about 26 coins in it right now.
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Apr 8, 2015 17:36
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Just put money as you play, if you do something like 5 coins per run or if you dedicate yourself to donating your wallet down to 10 coins per floor you'll get there in no time.
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If you're like me and don't play on PC, you'll want this Android app to help you out. I hate using my laptop to check items but this has been a huge help. Additionally, getting Tammy's Head as the first item on an Azazel run makes the whole thing go super quick. Still died to Mega Satan though...
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Apr 8, 2015 19:08
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The Lost would be fun if there weren't so many items useless to him and the game was fair. Daddy Longlegs, I'm looking at you. His loving randomstomp hurts you before the sprite is even visible on the screen.
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Cephalocidal posted:Blank card + Chaos card. You're gonna need a hell of a lot of Chaos Cards because they only take mega satan from one phase to the next.
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Power of Pecota posted:You're gonna need a hell of a lot of Chaos Cards because they only take mega satan from one phase to the next. Good thing he only has two phases then. That's what the blank card is for.
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omeg posted:The Lost would be fun if there weren't so many items useless to him and the game was fair. Daddy Longlegs, I'm looking at you. His loving randomstomp hurts you before the sprite is even visible on the screen. I think he'd be way better if he started stronger. Everything takes forever to kill and you have to play extremely conservatively because you aren't allowed to get hit. You'd also not need as much to get started, so the load of health items that he can't use wouldn't be such a drag. Does he have the Goat's Head effect by default? I honestly don't remember. If he doesn't, he should.
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I'd be okay with keeping the entire item pool if he got some benefit out of items he couldn't use. Blue Baby can't get health containers but he still benefits. Maybe allow every permanent health up you get to give you one unreplenishable hit, like a mini Holy Mantle or something.
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The Lost would be better if he was removed from the game. Binding of Issac is not a game where "die in one hit" works as a gimmick.
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ImpAtom posted:
This seems to be the simplest, best way to make it a fun character to play.
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kemikalkadet posted:This seems to be the simplest, best way to make it a fun character to play. Or even just have him start with an eternal heart that turns into a soul heart instead of a red heart. That way early levels are still pretty much one hit deaths, but if you play well enough you can build up a few heart buffer for the later levels.
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The Lost is fine as he is.Manatee Cannon posted:Does he have the Goat's Head effect by default? I honestly don't remember. If he doesn't, he should. No but for all intents and purposes yes; not being hit means you have something like a 90% chance to get a devil/angel room.
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YF-23 posted:The Lost is fine as he is. While true, doesn't it reset or diminish after you get the devil room? Whereas the goat head guarantees one on every floor one can spawn.
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c7sn c2ye Play as Cain, first floor you get fire bombs, bomb X rock up from the room that has the treasure room, and you get the small rock
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Savior Mod is a thing. It adds/replaces a lot of stuff; new characters, new rooms, mini-shops, new places to take devil deals, boss rooms have hazards. It's a little rough around the edges, but it's pretty fun until the real expansion drops. The redesigned boss in the Dark Room is now a double room with The Lamb, Mom, and Mom's Heart  Edit: New characters own, they feel like Challenge runs but with item rooms, and the replacement for The Lost is amazing. He starts with Lord of the Pit, Holy Mantle, Dad's Key, and Stigmata i.e. actual compensation for the whole 0 HP thing. Soho Joe fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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