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Jerry Cotton posted:English really doesn't have another term for it? We call it kehäpäätelmä which roughly translates to loop conclusion. "Circular reasoning" would work quite nicely.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 02:07 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:English really doesn't have another term for it? We call it kehäpäätelmä which roughly translates to loop conclusion. https://en.glosbe.com/fi/en/keh%C3%A4p%C3%A4%C3%A4telm%C3%A4 Begging the Question actually is "assuming the conclusion of an argument," and a type of circular reasoning.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 08:49 |
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pricing and functionality wise this isn't that terrible of a product but one part of it jumped out at me:quote:Designer McGowan was adamant the cold, non-interactive nature of remote controls would not be part of Sprout. Instead, a precision human interface was chosen for the front panel: a stepped tactile volume control and input selector mechanism provide both feedback and a connection to the device itself.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:12 |
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Love that wood panel, makes me feel like I'm in a 2000 Taurus with the fancy interior package.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:18 |
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That webdesign is awful. The images are all different heights so the stuff on the page moves around as it flips through them.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:28 |
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qirex posted:pricing and functionality wise this isn't that terrible of a product but one part of it jumped out at me: Yeah, I've gotten used to not having remote controls on my stereos, and I kinda get what the writer is saying too -- a really nice volume knob is a pleasure to use if it has good weight to it or clicks a little, or it's cold to touch -- but remote controls are in every single modern device for a really good reason.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:51 |
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Yeah it's really nice to be able to pull out your phone and turn the volume down on your stereo when you are in another room.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:54 |
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BigFactory posted:Yeah, I've gotten used to not having remote controls on my stereos, and I kinda get what the writer is saying too -- a really nice volume knob is a pleasure to use if it has good weight to it or clicks a little, or it's cold to touch -- but remote controls are in every single modern device for a really good reason. They didn't want to say the real reason was a remote control involves extra engineering / production / cost. Also, it means you need to control volume in software, so you can't just throw a pot on it. Adding a remote to something like that would be a serious redesign for something designed to be mass produced cheaply but look expensive and have huge margins.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:56 |
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KillHour posted:They didn't want to say the real reason was a remote control involves extra engineering / production / cost. Also, it means you need to control volume in software, so you can't just throw a pot on it. Adding a remote to something like that would be a serious redesign for something designed to be mass produced cheaply but look expensive and have huge margins. yup.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 17:02 |
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KillHour posted:Also, it means you need to control volume in software, so you can't just throw a pot on it. That's extra engineering too, I know. It's not that I don't get that.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 17:10 |
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Flipperwaldt posted:No it doesn't. Plenty of nineties receivers with motorized volume knobs that are just that. A lot of current amplifiers still use motorized volume knobs. Look at the current NAD lineup, for example. Plenty of motorized knobs. I think part of the "problem" is that it's hard to make a motorized stepped volume control, and audiophiles want those stepped knobs filled with expensive precision resistors. Never mind that most "digital" volume controls actually use resistor ladders internally and thus function as high-precision stepped attenuators.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 17:36 |
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BigFactory posted:Yeah, I've gotten used to not having remote controls on my stereos, and I kinda get what the writer is saying too -- a really nice volume knob is a pleasure to use if it has good weight to it or clicks a little, or it's cold to touch -- but remote controls are in every single modern device for a really good reason. I hadn't read anything about the sprout's design prior to demoing one (with the designer sitting there) and my first comment was that the volume control felt great. He mentioned that they did spend a lot of time trying different controls to get the feel right. It's a small thing, but it does make the amp better. I would also say that the amp was designed mainly for headphone and desktop systems where not having a remote has less of a negative effect. But I wouldn't use it in my living room because getting up to change the volume sucks.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 18:21 |
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Flipperwaldt posted:No it doesn't. Plenty of nineties receivers with motorized volume knobs that are just that. Yeah, I know. I just didn't bring those up because they aren't particularly common any more (NAD being the exception). Still, the point stands.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 18:27 |
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Gonna need to get Knob Feel's take on it before I put my order in.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 18:28 |
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Beaten to knobfeel e: There's definitely something to these companies trying to make digital gear feel "analog-y," since the kinds of people to whom an $800 t-amp looks affordable really, really like analog stuff. qirex fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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LifeSizePotato posted:Gonna need to get Knob Feel's take on it before I put my order in. Holy poo poo, this is the best.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 18:29 |
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did they seriously use the bass clef and treble clef as tone knob labels
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 18:33 |
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BANME.sh posted:did they seriously use the bass clef and treble clef as tone knob labels I've seen that done on a bunch of stuff, particularly (pre-remote control) TVs, for some reason.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 20:45 |
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What the gently caress are you supposed to label them with, then?
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 22:44 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:What the gently caress are you supposed to label them with, then? "Bass" and "Treble", typically.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:00 |
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KillHour posted:"Bass" and "Treble", typically. What do those even mean Just use the ear-shaped thing and the weird ampersand like normal people.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:02 |
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I would like it if they made a remote control that had a volume knob, but that's a whole other
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# ? Apr 16, 2015 09:25 |
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Wasabi the J posted:I would like it if they made a remote control that had a volume knob, but that's a whole other I remember using a VHS machine that had a jog dial on the remote control, but I think that's the closest we've gotten.
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# ? Apr 16, 2015 09:39 |
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Wasabi the J posted:I would like it if they made a remote control that had a volume knob, but that's a whole other Devialet does. It's actually a really good remote.
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# ? Apr 16, 2015 14:51 |
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The Chinese amp we repacked didn't have ir so neither does this.
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# ? Apr 16, 2015 15:22 |
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Pigs are flying - I found an honest to god audible problem caused by my speaker cables. Specifically the banana plugs. A specific frequency was causing one of the plugs to vibrate in its binding post, causing audible crackling as the connection was made and broken.
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 20:00 |
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KillHour posted:Pigs are flying - I found an honest to god audible problem caused by my speaker cables. Specifically the banana plugs. Obviously because you spent less than $10k on the cables, scrub.
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 20:49 |
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AlexDeGruven posted:Obviously because you spent less than $10k on the cables, scrub. Is that each or per foot?
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 02:13 |
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I don't have a tv, and play music exclusively from my computer. Right now I have some old speakers and their sub-woofer is basically a receiver, but it's all really old and I want to replace it. I'm willing to pay about $500, is there something I can get that works fine as computer speakers, but also fills up the room better if I am just listening to music?
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 02:30 |
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Caddrel posted:I don't have a tv, and play music exclusively from my computer. Right now I have some old speakers and their sub-woofer is basically a receiver, but it's all really old and I want to replace it. This is ~$400, though unless you like lots of bass, the sub is probably optional. I don't run one with those speakers and they go deeper than you'd expect for the size of the driver. I'd start without it and then see if you need it. If your current sub has line-level inputs, you could also just keep using it and not attach the satellites. The lepai inputs are in parallel, so you can just attach the sub to the one you're not using as an input. DAC: http://schiit.com/products/modi-2 Amp: http://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020A-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ Speakers: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ Sub: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 02:43 |
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Qwijib0 posted:This is ~$400, though unless you like lots of bass, the sub is probably optional. I don't run one with those speakers and they go deeper than you'd expect for the size of the driver. I'd start without it and then see if you need it. If your current sub has line-level inputs, you could also just keep using it and not attach the satellites. The lepai inputs are in parallel, so you can just attach the sub to the one you're not using as an input. Cool, thanks. I'll need to get rid of the sub, it's so old that some of the buttons are broken, but I can try with just the speakers. How far apart do you place them from each other? I'm guessing that's also important.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 18:34 |
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Mister Kingdom posted:Is that each or per foot? Truer 'philes measure in inches.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 18:45 |
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Caddrel posted:Cool, thanks. I'll need to get rid of the sub, it's so old that some of the buttons are broken, but I can try with just the speakers. They're not designed as near field speakers but that being said I have mine on the ends of a desk maybe 6 feet apart, so 4ish feet from my ears, and I'm very happy with the sound.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 23:16 |
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Caddrel posted:Cool, thanks. I'll need to get rid of the sub, it's so old that some of the buttons are broken, but I can try with just the speakers. The optimal position for 99% of speakers is to form an equilateral triangle with your head + speakers as the three points.
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# ? Apr 20, 2015 17:22 |
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This amazing set of objets d'art are currently up on a local auction site, current bid is €100: What are they? Why, they're a matching set of porcelain-clad pre/power amps, of course! I dunno, at least they're different and I could definitely see them fitting in well with certain styles of decor. You would have to find a matching set of speakers, though, maybe some of those old bookcase-size Klipsches or something. I don't the manufacturer made any sort of audiophile claims about them, or ascribed any audible effect to the porcelain, but I thought they were weird and wonderful enough to post. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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KozmoNaut posted:This amazing set of objets d'art are currently up on a local auction site, current bid is €100: I would purchase those and disguise them as lamps
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 13:11 |
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Those are completely cool and not dumb.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 14:27 |
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Wasabi the J posted:Those are completely cool and not dumb. Assuming they work well and aren't $Texas, I agree. I personally think they're hideous, though.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 16:34 |
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KillHour posted:Assuming they work well and aren't $Texas, I agree. I personally think they're hideous, though. Like I wrote, the current bid is €100. The estimated value is set at €535 and there are ~5 days left on the auction. The power amp is supposedly 105 watts/channel RMS, so there should be plenty of oomph for just about everything. E: I didn't post them to make fun of them, I just thought they were kinda weird. If I needed a pre/power amp combo, it would amuse me to have something like that setup sitting on my shelf. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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