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Dj Meow Mix posted:No one unironically says yomi, I think No, I think there's an entire area of specialist vocabulary in fighting games that's specifically the province of A) David Sirlin and B) people who think Sirlin sounds smart. Sirlin's got some decent game design chops--I've heard his card game is actually really fun, though I haven't played it myself--but I could've done without his rear end coining new terminology to discuss fighter balance. It's like how people who don't know what it is will talk about the "metagame" to sound intelligent. (Also, I think we've gotta put a fair amount of fighting-game slang squarely on Yipes's head, but I'm prepared to live with that. Dude's just a meme fountain.)
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Goro's Stomp OP, just had a Subzero try to zone me out and I switched to ground pounding and stomping and got some mad salt in return. For those of you who don't know how to deal the Goro's stomp, as soon as he leaves the screen going up dash or run forward. It's that easy.
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People do say oki and abare despite there being viable English alternatives for those concepts, though. Don't worry about it, the FGC adopting Japanese terms has always been pretty arbitrary. Wakeup pressure can be okizeme, but safe jumps aren't sagikasane and corner pressure isn't gamenhashi. Crossups aren't mekuri but converting can be abare. And so and so forth.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:48
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'Oh yeah Oki? Well that's an abbreviation. An abbreviation for a portmanteau. A portmanteau of some Japanese verbs GOD DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU' - some guy on SRK probably
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Who honestly says abare in the western scene without irony, outside of like...the EXVS crowd Oki though, yeah that's pretty popular. But it's defined all over the place at least
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Apr 17, 2015 20:53
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Can you do brutalities without unlocking them in the Krypt? I was messing around with Mileena last night and could not get her dropkick brutality to trigger for the life of me, but as soon as I got it in the krypt it I hit it first try.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:58
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JetsGuy posted:Yeah i had to learn to just ignore the actual things the avatar is doing too, yeah. It's just so counterinuitive to me to be smashing the the special when you're still nowhere near done the other combo. Yeah, I didn't like this about MK9 and Injustice. It's super counter-intuitive that you have to enter the inputs before there's anything even resembling a cancel window on the screen. Other fighting games run their combo systems on a basis of "the character is now doing the move you have to cancel from > do the input before the move's animation gets to a certain point". Playing NRS games is like entering code into the controller three seconds before anything happens.
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Dj Meow Mix posted:Who honestly says abare in the western scene without irony, outside of like...the EXVS crowd I do cause I am dead loving serious about Virtua Fighter. However like all true VF fans I am a crazy old man so 
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Apr 17, 2015 20:59
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I honestly didn't hear anyone talking about oki outside of high-level Tekken play and then suddenly it was everywhere.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:01
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wyoak posted:Can you do brutalities without unlocking them in the Krypt? I was messing around with Mileena last night and could not get her dropkick brutality to trigger for the life of me, but as soon as I got it in the krypt it I hit it first try. I don't think you can. Although the stage brutalities don't need unlocking as far as I can tell because I could do the forest one right away.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:02
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Evil Canadian posted:I do cause I am dead loving serious about Virtua Fighter. However like all true VF fans I am a crazy old man so 5 people is not the western scene Holla for representing our dead games though   wyoak posted:Can you do brutalities without unlocking them in the Krypt? I was messing around with Mileena last night and could not get her dropkick brutality to trigger for the life of me, but as soon as I got it in the krypt it I hit it first try. No. I don't think that applies to fatalities though?
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Apr 17, 2015 21:03
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The radiator brutality is pretty messed up. I saw evil canadian do it to his sister once but I can't figure out how to do it in my game.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:03
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MinibarMatchman posted:just cannot land that basic kung lao punching combo, probably the one input that gives me trouble on anyone. you have to basically hammer 232 like a madman to get it out I cannot pull off his 112124 punch combo without switching to an overhand grip. It needs to be input literally too fast for a single thumb to be able to handle.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:09
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I'm a scrub. Ermacs "We Win" Brutality says I just have to at some point during the match do a 5+ hit combo that ENDS with a D,B,Square (force lift or whatever) to 'enable' it, and then end the match with a D,B,Square. Can someone spoon feed me a reliable Ermac combo that can end with a force lift for me to try when I get home?
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Apr 17, 2015 21:10
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KOMI posted:I'm a scrub. I haven't tried this specific one, but you can force-lift after a force-lift to smack them down. So you should be able to do say a 222 into lift then lift again while they're hanging there for a fairly easy five hitter. Edit: Just checked, in anything but Mystic, force lift is an automatic two hitter anyway. So if you're not Mystic, do a 222 > Force-lift, and you get a five hitter right away. Aishan fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 21:16
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K so here's a couple combo's I finally got set to muscle memory on Ferra/Torr. Dunno how viable they are in a competitive setting so any advice would be appreciated. Combo string (annotations?) are in the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emLwDKIfSj0
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Apr 17, 2015 21:18
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Can someone please tell me how to change which stage the main menu thing is? I'm sick of looking at the brown poo poo in a jar, and I cannot find the option anywhere.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:21
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GenoCanSing posted:Can someone please tell me how to change which stage the main menu thing is? I'm sick of looking at the brown poo poo in a jar, and I cannot find the option anywhere. Change faction.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:22
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Orv posted:Change faction. Wow that suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Bye bye Brotherhood. Yeesh.
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Wanderer posted:I honestly didn't hear anyone talking about oki outside of high-level Tekken play and then suddenly it was everywhere. I kinda noticed this too actually. I've played Tekken for ages but always considered it a term that was mostly restricted to that community (and, y'know, Japan) but now people use it everywhere. Tekken's wakeup game is a lot harder and more complicated than most other FGs though, so it ends up being useful for shorthand.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:37
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Solomonic posted:Yeah, exactly this - you can still do the Street Fighter motions and it'll count without overcomplicating everything else. W/r/t the combo breaker move, it's kinda weird. You have to be holding block and forward while they're comboing you. I think back in MK9 you just had to press it, which was a lot easier. I came from SF and I have a good amount of time into that (1k hours I think?) and it's a TOTALLY different game coming into MK10. For the life of me I CAN NOT get grappling down.
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Brosnan posted:I kinda noticed this too actually. I've played Tekken for ages but always considered it a term that was mostly restricted to that community (and, y'know, Japan) but now people use it everywhere. Oki as a term is useful as shorthand for "poo poo you do after you get a knockdown on someone". It's replaceable but it's not yomi, at least. I always thought it was more of a GG/airdasher thing, tho.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:48
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I'm in the UK and I'm playing PC. What was the name of of the goon MK group on Steam? I'm up for some fighting!
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When you played Injustice with your bros you'd just hang out in this room with a little sidebar saying who was in there and everyone would watch the one fight that was happening. Did that mode return, and what is it called in MKX? So far the rooms in this game are just 'smaller matchmaking pools'
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Finally got my PC up and running after this game fried my old video card, kind of bummed that there is still noticeable frame droppage on the stages with rain (great optimization imo). But other than that, game completely playable. Just played like 20 rounds against somebody online, felt pretty good. He had 34% meterless Katana combos so good on him.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:50
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plape tickler posted:Scrooge McDuck made a pretty good beginner's combo video. Practicing from one end of the room to the other, then reversing it is a good idea. This is a helpful video, gonna try it out later. Thanks!
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I haven't played Mk since 4 when I worked an arcade. I'm digging reptile, but I'd like to diversify and nobody else really feels good, mainly due to the slide and power ball zoning feeling pretty great. Anybody else with a similar style?
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So I literally can't boot the game anymore without getting a instant ce348780 error... Wtf
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Syrinxx posted:When you played Injustice with your bros you'd just hang out in this room with a little sidebar saying who was in there and everyone would watch the one fight that was happening. Did that mode return, and what is it called in MKX? So far the rooms in this game are just 'smaller matchmaking pools' Sounds like MKX King Of The Hill mode
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Mulloy posted:I haven't played Mk since 4 when I worked an arcade. I'm digging reptile, but I'd like to diversify and nobody else really feels good, mainly due to the slide and power ball zoning feeling pretty great. Anybody else with a similar style? Bojustsu Yung Kim doesn't have a slide, but he has a few different mobility specials and a good zoning game that can convert into easy 30-40% combos.
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Wanderer posted:Hardcore fighting-game fans, maybe. The genre is just fine, and in fact might be healthier than it's ever been. Well, I'd say that mid-era SF2 (along with Early MK etc) is the healthiest it's been just because of the sheer ubiquity. I mean consider how many people haven't really played fighting games since then but know who "Guile" is, if they're anywhere from 20-45 years old. And Evo has been pretty consistently growing, overall, for years. So I wouldn't say that is a basis to say the FGC is dying. Streams are a luxury earlier generations of fighitng games never had and it's helped them a lot. Sure they're less popular than, say. League of Legends, but what isn't? I'm not sure what facts the good Senator is using for the basis of his comments, and I'm curious where his knowledge of the 'community' comes from, since I have no idea how involved he's ever been with it.
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senivy is a fighting game thread shitposter going back 10+ years now dont worry about it
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KOMI posted:I'm a scrub. Start with f21d2, which launches the opponent, and try to do another string as a follow up. An easy one is to run forward a little bit and do 34 xx Force Lift. If you want to challenge yourself a little bit, do f21d2 -> j3 xx Teleport -> 222 xx Forcelift. The timing can be a little strict, but it's actually the most damaging starter I've found so far.
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Jesus. This thread moved fast. That being said, if this has been answered I apologise profusely. Has the community e-mail for WBPlay been made and if so are all the unlocks ready to go? As an aside moving from Erron Black to Takeda to match my namesake. 
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KOMI posted:Sounds like MKX King Of The Hill mode
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Syrinxx posted:I think this is it, will check it out thanks. Barely played any Injustice other than 1p so I could not remember it. Spectator mode wasn't working on PC last night. Only health bars were visible.
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Perestroika posted:The connection was a bit iffy though (this is on PC). I had grey ping bars to all of them, which lead to a distinctly noticeable delays in play. Reconnecting to the MK online service after each match also took up an annoyingly long time. Don't worry, the bars in the PC version show grey for everyone. Just another bug I suppose. your evil twin posted:I'm in the UK and I'm playing PC. What was the name of of the goon MK group on Steam? I'm up for some fighting! http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198000743057/ , add me! However, even though we are both EU, god knows how playable will it actually be. Mr. Neutron fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Lasher posted:Jesus. This thread moved fast. Yeah, it's come up like a dozen times. Naw, it's not made or ready because the app isn't out on Android yet.
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I have a cool bug where every time I do a fatality both characters stand there for about a minute doing nothing before it just jumps to the next match.
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