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The youtube app on my phone crashed and when I went to restart it, it said something about Google Play Services being missing, then it launched the Play Store which crashed because it said I had to log in. Now none of the Google apps are working: Store, Gmail, Youtube, Hangouts, Calendar, Keep, e.t.c. They all just hang on a white screen. I've tried rebooting, clearing the play store cache, clearing the Google services cache, clearing the Google framework cache. I can't delete my Google account because the Settings app crashes, I can't factory reset the device because the Settings app crashes. If I try a trigger a factory reset from boot I get a No Command error when booting into recovery. What the hell happened?
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Apr 18, 2015 12:27
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nexus6 posted:The youtube app on my phone crashed and when I went to restart it, it said something about Google Play Services being missing, then it launched the Play Store which crashed because it said I had to log in. Now none of the Google apps are working: Store, Gmail, Youtube, Hangouts, Calendar, Keep, e.t.c. They all just hang on a white screen. Failed play services update? Try downloding and installing this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-apk-download/
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Apr 18, 2015 12:35
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nexus6 posted:The youtube app on my phone crashed and when I went to restart it, it said something about Google Play Services being missing, then it launched the Play Store which crashed because it said I had to log in. Now none of the Google apps are working: Store, Gmail, Youtube, Hangouts, Calendar, Keep, e.t.c. They all just hang on a white screen.
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Apr 18, 2015 12:36
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LastInLine posted:Forced updates should be the norm and there's no reason at all not to do it. Users should not have the option to forgo security patches and API updates because it puts them at risk for things they do not and cannot understand. Thanks for this. I completely agree and it blows my mind when someone's like "I am going to ignore this update because I'm just not sure about it." You're buying a device from a manufacturer that should be reputable. If you can't trust them and the software they give you then you need to switch vendors.
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Apr 18, 2015 12:48
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LastInLine posted:Forced updates should be the norm and there's no reason at all not to do it. Users should not have the option to forgo security patches and API updates because it puts them at risk for things they do not and cannot understand. I leave updates auto/silent on everything I have that's on a UPS or internal battery and auto download + notify (+ probably a compulsion of some sort making me fastidious about taking updates at the earliest opportunity) on everything else. I also keep rigorous backups and use online sync where possible because you'd have to be a space-doofus not to these days. I think the only time I didn't was one of those times when some big vendor literally could not get patches right for months. I don't want to say it was Microsoft without corroboration but drat does it feel like it. I would still want to see warranty protection extended to cover any fault that can be positively traced back to the firmware, as deployed as intended by the manufacturer, within the device's lifetime (or similar coverage, and actually updating it seems like would be an implicit acknowledgment of an extended lifetime for the device) before I'd be cool with this, but at that point yeah set it off as soon as it's verified and charged. You gotta charge it sometime... 
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Apr 18, 2015 13:14
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If the updates are just security and API stuff, sure. But I don't trust Google not to gently caress something up in terms of features or interface so I'm skipping 5.0.
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Apr 18, 2015 13:20
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You guys are like the people still running Windows XP in 2015 because your boss's kid nephew "IT guy" said never update.
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Apr 18, 2015 14:14
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mobby_6kl posted:If the updates are just security and API stuff, sure. But I don't trust Google not to gently caress something up in terms of features or interface so I'm skipping 5.0. Then stick with EDIT: I think I typed this harsher than I meant. I'm serious; look into devices that are actually frozen at a given API level but still given security updates. Works for corporate stuff, but that's mostly general-purpose computing stuff and I'm surprised there's no equivalent in phones these days. Blackberry doesn't count. v v v WAS. I categorically switched from Vista to 7 with the release preview with zero regrets, and I didn't actually switch fully to 8 until it was 8.1 and in retrospect I have no idea how I put up with Vista until 7 release preview. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Apr 18, 2015 14:15
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kitten smoothie posted:You guys are like the people still running Windows XP in 2015 because your boss's kid nephew "IT guy" said never update. Agreed, Vista was dope.
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Apr 18, 2015 14:18
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Right now Google Services is eating so much power on my M8 that my Moto 360 will outlast it by several hours. They've been taken of the charger at the same time. If Google wants to use your battery, they dont gently caress around!
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Apr 18, 2015 14:30
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Hammer Floyd posted:Any complaints about the Xperia Z3 Compact? Upgrading from a Samsung S4 Galaxy. No, excellent phone. Only complaints tend to be a lack of Qi charging and the camera isn't phenomenal but is still rated " good ". Buy it, won't be going wrong.
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Apr 18, 2015 14:42
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Jesus Christ, never mind. God forbid somebody wanting to do a backup before updating an OS, or not wanting to be forced to use the new Chrome or Gmail. But I guess "I just don't understand", and not having the newest firmware update would open me up to heinous security holes that wouldn't even loving effect me because I'm not an idiot who clicks on any prompt or downloads shady .apks. What about when your carrier stops providing updates? Oh wait you're probably all rooted so something like that is beneath you. Realize there are more strata and sub strata to the Android user base than what you might casually assume because of yourself.
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Apr 18, 2015 16:09
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Longbaugh01 posted:Jesus Christ, never mind. God forbid somebody wanting to do a backup before updating an OS, or not wanting to be forced to use the new Chrome or Gmail. But I guess "I just don't understand", and not having the newest firmware update would open me up to heinous security holes that wouldn't even loving effect me because I'm not an idiot who clicks on any prompt or downloads shady .apks. Maybe admit that you're just scared of change? Seriously though Lollipop is pretty freaking great and you should give it a try.
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Apr 18, 2015 16:12
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Longbaugh01 posted:Jesus Christ, never mind. God forbid somebody wanting to do a backup before updating an OS, or not wanting to be forced to use the new Chrome or Gmail. What? Of all the possible reasons to not want to update your OS, having up to date Chrome and Gmail is possibly the weirdest I've ever heard. You realize those can get updated without a new OS version? Longbaugh01 posted:What about when your carrier stops providing updates? Then your phone is EOL'd and at risk for new exploits that get found. It's something to be cognizant about. Longbaugh01 posted:Realize there are more strata and sub strata to the Android user base than what you might casually assume because of yourself. I don't really know what this means, so can't help you there.
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Apr 18, 2015 16:46
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RVProfootballer posted:I don't really know what this means, so can't help you there. "I want to keep using my 4-year-old garbage phone that was EOL'd 3 years ago" (also, see Nexus 4 or Nexus 7 2012)
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Apr 18, 2015 17:52
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Longbaugh01 posted:What about when your carrier stops providing updates? Oh wait you're probably all rooted so something like that is beneath you. On the whole, I think this thread recommends you don't root.
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Apr 18, 2015 18:10
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Thermopyle posted:On the whole, I think this thread recommends you don't root. With the vast majority of phones and tablets it's a bad idea, yeah. And these days it's for much better reasons than RZA and Tayne used to invade the rooted thread about : updates from Lollipop generally delta-patch against the /system volume as a monolith (there are exceptions but you can't count on your phone being one of them), so if you do so much as change a single bit of metadata the update will throw up its hands before it ever writes anything. In other words: root your phone and you're stuck on your current patch level unless you do crazy things and possibly break that 500-dollar Internet/PSTN lifeline of yours. Having access to actual factory images (like what a maintenance suite on your computer grabs if it can only get into recovery, or the kind you download direct from Google for Nexus devices, not like some XDA rando's "totally legit stock ROM I swear") changes this radically, but that drat near requires a developer's edition phone now (Nexus, Moto X Pure, etc).
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Apr 18, 2015 18:30
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Longbaugh01 posted:But I guess "I just don't understand", and not having the newest firmware update would open me up to heinous security holes that wouldn't even loving effect me because I'm not an idiot who clicks on any prompt or downloads shady .apks. Tunga fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Apr 18, 2015 19:01
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Tunga posted:If you ever use SSL you really do want security updates. Nah, https is for suckers! Old http Gmail for me thanks.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:38
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LastInLine posted:Nah, https is for suckers! Old http Gmail for me thanks. 
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Apr 18, 2015 20:45
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Never installing updates is stupid, but waiting to install them isn't a terrible idea. Unless it's an absolutely critical security update a la Heartbleed waiting a week or so to make sure there aren't any other major problems seems reasonable, especially for something that involves replacing the entire operating system. Even Microsoft with perhaps the largest update testing setups has a bad patch slip out every once in a while, and the initial Lollipop updates got pulled because of memory leaks, not to mention the reports of phones getting bricked.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:05
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Longbaugh01 posted:Hi. Today I received the Lollipop OTA option for my at&t LG G2. It probably wanted you to actually hit an "ignore for X hours" button, instead of just ignoring it. Chances are the notification you got was something like "The phone will restart and update in 10 minutes" or whatever LastInLine posted:A carrier or OEM doing the right thing and forcing users to be on the latest software? No precedence I can think of but it's a welcome step. LastInLine posted:Forced updates should be the norm and there's no reason at all not to do it. Users should not have the option to forgo security patches and API updates because it puts them at risk for things they do not and cannot understand. You're missing the point. The poster wasn't mad that his/her phone updated, the poster was mad that the phone updated when he/she wasn't ready for it. It would suck pretty hard if he/she actually had to use the phone for something but instead it was in the middle of an update.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:24
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:You're missing the point. The poster wasn't mad that his/her phone updated, the poster was mad that the phone updated when he/she wasn't ready for it. It would suck pretty hard if he/she actually had to use the phone for something but instead it was in the middle of an update. Not to mention if the update triggered while he was low on battery it might fail partway through. Doesn't pretty much every tablet/phone update require you to be plugged in these days?
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Apr 18, 2015 22:26
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So I've installed a google play services update from Androidpolice without even noticing that there are different version for different phones. What can I say, I wanted to get rid of that android wear notification. Can anyone with a M8 tell me what the last three digits in the version number of google Play Services are? The ones after the -
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Apr 18, 2015 22:27
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isndl posted:Not to mention if the update triggered while he was low on battery it might fail partway through. Doesn't pretty much every tablet/phone update require you to be plugged in these days? Droid Turbo doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it won't start an update if it's below a certain battery level.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:30
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sleepwalkers posted:Droid Turbo doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it won't start an update if it's below a certain battery level. I can remember that Touchwiz (at least 4.2.2 wich was the last time I used it) didn't update below 50% battery, I may be wrong. Windows Phone won't update with low battery aswell.
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Apr 18, 2015 22:44
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sleepwalkers posted:Droid Turbo doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it won't start an update if it's below a certain battery level. Lol if u think the Turbo actually gets updates 
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Apr 18, 2015 23:09
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:It probably wanted you to actually hit an "ignore for X hours" button, instead of just ignoring it. Chances are the notification you got was something like "The phone will restart and update in 10 minutes" or whatever What happens if forced updates are the norm and someone can't call 911 because the phone is updating? Why would Google/OEMs/carriers ever expose themselves to that kind of liability?
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Apr 18, 2015 23:17
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uninterrupted posted:That last point really strikes me. This is why most phones make you either hit a button to update, or wait until your phone restarts (or turns off/on). E: it could have been some flukey poo poo like the phone kernel panicked and restarted on its own, triggering the delayed update to install. Wouldn't be too far fetched.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:03
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:It probably wanted you to actually hit an "ignore for X hours" button, instead of just ignoring it. Chances are the notification you got was something like "The phone will restart and update in 10 minutes" or whatever I'm not saying that no such device exists but I am yet to encounter any device that forces updates on the user. If such a thing does exist then you should take that as a lesson to never buy a device from that OEM again. Certainly this is not how Google intend for Android to operate.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:29
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Shai-Hulud posted:So I've installed a google play services update from Androidpolice without even noticing that there are different version for different phones. What can I say, I wanted to get rid of that android wear notification. Yeah, this is why people should just let their phone handle poo poo for them.
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Apr 19, 2015 02:09
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Since my Nexus 4's charging port is likely dying after replacing it in December (that's some lovely manufacturing right there), I'm in the market for a Qi charger. I like the Nexus one, but I'm afraid my phone might slide off of it. I don't want or need anything as expensive as a Tylt Vu, and in fact I would much prefer a flat charger. Should I be so concerned about my phone sliding off the Nexus charger? If so, what are some other recommendations? Edit: apparently the Nexus charger's sold out. I guess that at least narrows my choices. hooah fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 02:10
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LastInLine posted:Nah, https is for suckers! Old http Gmail for me thanks. Please, I telnet into Gmail.
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Apr 19, 2015 02:12
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hooah posted:Since my Nexus 4's charging port is likely dying after replacing it in December (that's some lovely manufacturing right there), I'm in the market for a Qi charger. I like the Nexus one, but I'm afraid my phone might slide off of it. I don't want or need anything as expensive as a Tylt Vu, and in fact I would much prefer a flat charger. I use this Choe Qi Charger for my Nexus 7 and it does a solid job. It's small and compact and less than $30. http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...ireless+charger
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Apr 19, 2015 03:05
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So I'm giving the Samsung Galaxy A3 a try, but as I feared its too big.. I cant operate this thing with my thumb(wont reach top of the screen). Do we know if there's anything coming out this year that is about the size of the iPhone 4? drat all these giant phones..
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Apr 19, 2015 03:07
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Oovee posted:So I'm giving the Samsung Galaxy A3 a try, but as I feared its too big.. I cant operate this thing with my thumb(wont reach top of the screen). Z4c?
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Apr 19, 2015 03:20
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="444233781"] The Z3c is slightly bigger than an iPhone 5/5s. I doubt the Z4c will be notably smaller.
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Apr 19, 2015 03:51
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Oovee posted:So I'm giving the Samsung Galaxy A3 a try, but as I feared its too big.. I cant operate this thing with my thumb(wont reach top of the screen). There is literally 0 consumer or industry interest in 3.5" phones in 2015.
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Apr 19, 2015 04:36
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Oovee posted:So I'm giving the Samsung Galaxy A3 a try, but as I feared its too big.. I cant operate this thing with my thumb(wont reach top of the screen). http://www.walmart.com/ip/Walmart-Family-Mobile-ZTE-Zinger-Smartphone/39150771
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:You're missing the point. The poster wasn't mad that his/her phone updated, the poster was mad that the phone updated when he/she wasn't ready for it. It would suck pretty hard if he/she actually had to use the phone for something but instead it was in the middle of an update. In the end you and others are probably right. There was some trigger that was accidentally activated either on its own or by the user.
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