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Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

a pipe smoking dog posted:

I can't imagine how insufferable coohoolin must be for actual scots. I know if a guy like him decided he was a welsh nationalist I would probably have to rugby tackle him to the ground and choke him to death with laverbread.

e: Nick Clegg has issued another :iceburn:

"Grant Shapps has fervently denied that he had anything to do with it. He himself does not have the time apparently to edit his own Wikipedia entry. I’m prepared to believe him. It could have been someone else. Michael Green for instance."

If even Nick Clegg can be winning laughs at your expense at this stage in his political life, you're finished.

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I know someone who went to medical school in Glasgow and started affecting a Scottish accent. He's a bit of a tosser.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

XMNN posted:

I know someone who went to medical school in Glasgow and started affecting a Scottish accent. He's a bit of a tosser.

How do you tell the difference between an affectation and an accent change? Apparently I'm starting to get a bit of an accent on certain words, but it's not something I notice myself.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Well, some of the time he would speak in his normal accent.

e: Also, the accent part was ancillary to him being a tosser.

XMNN fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Apr 22, 2015

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

XMNN posted:

Well, some of the time he would speak in his normal accent.

e: Also, the accent part was ancillary to him being a tosser.

Fair enough!

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Whenever I visit my relatives in Norwich (they're not natives, just moved there in the early 90s) I barely have to be there a day before I start getting that east anglian twang to my accent, and I've never lived there. Same fr most accents. Some people do subconsciously pick up accents very quickly and distinctly.
It's really awkward because I feel like people must assume I'm taking the piss out of them or just being a gigantic twat.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

a pipe smoking dog posted:

I can't imagine how insufferable coohoolin must be for actual scots. I know if a guy like him decided he was a welsh nationalist I would probably have to rugby tackle him to the ground and choke him to death with laverbread.

The nationalist Scots slate anyone who dares criticise Coohoolin for "being so comfortable in Scotland that he adopts the accent", and will continue to do so until the moment he stops using said accent to say "Scotland should be free".

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Urgh, just got this email:

quote:

"Trade union members in the *CIVIL SERVICE DEPT* can currently pay their membership subscriptions directly from their salary through a mechanism known as “check-off”. The department has reviewed this provision and, following consultation with the unions, has decided that the facility to subscribe to trade unions by check-off will no longer be available in the Department and its agencies from 1 October 2015. The decision was taken primarily on the basis that the Department believes that the trade unions and their members should make arrangements for the collection of subscriptions between themselves without using the employer as an intermediary.

Bit of a scummy way to financially strangle the unions imho.

Kaislioc
Feb 14, 2008
I've subconsciously found myself imitating the people I've been talking to on one or two occasions before. It's embarrassing but ultimately for the most part a natural and normal thing. It's the entire reason accents exist in the first place.

Jedit posted:

The nationalist Scots slate anyone who dares criticise Coohoolin for "being so comfortable in Scotland that he adopts the accent", and will continue to do so until the moment he stops using said accent to say "Scotland should be free".

I'm struggling to find a response to this that isn't "Except no". This is probably because there's not much substance to it in the first place. It's quite a dilemma.

Kaislioc fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Apr 22, 2015

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
If you move to a country you're never allowed to identify as a member of it. Fact. This is why all immigrants aren't really British and can never claim to be.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Bozza posted:

Forget the Labour vs SNP arguments, there's only one man who can save Glasgow South...



Bozza walking around Glasgow: https://youtu.be/ghtpdhMpo5o?t=3m48s

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Urgh, just got this email:


Bit of a scummy way to financially strangle the unions imho.

maybe made sense in days before unions could organise their own direct debit facility, but it's pretty old fashioned now. that's how i've always paid mine, and i think the large majority of new sign ups do.
why do you even want your employer to have a record that you're a member?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Oberleutnant posted:

Whenever I visit my relatives in Norwich (they're not natives, just moved there in the early 90s) I barely have to be there a day before I start getting that east anglian twang to my accent, and I've never lived there. Same fr most accents. Some people do subconsciously pick up accents very quickly and distinctly.
It's really awkward because I feel like people must assume I'm taking the piss out of them or just being a gigantic twat.
I subconsciously do this too sometimes. Maybe we are :ohdear:

Also UKMT April 2015 - taking the piss out of people or just being a gigantic twat

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

Youtube's auto-generated subtitles do wonderful things to Rab C.

e: also, is it just me or does Mary Doll look quite a bit like a fatter Nicola Sturgeon?

LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Apr 22, 2015

ufarn
May 30, 2009

Bozza posted:

Forget the Labour vs SNP arguments, there's only one man who can save Glasgow South...


Tories apparently want Augustus Gloop to run the British factory.

Maybe he can start at Tesco

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!
Bozza's candidate is still better than this Conservative (not mine):

The Supreme Court fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Apr 22, 2015

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
"Coming up on @itvthismorning, a man who can steal your watch without you noticing". @David_Cameron: "Who's that, Alex Salmond?"

:frogon: C'mon Dave, tell us what you really think!

Seriously, from someone representing the office of Prime Minister, that's pretty loving unacceptable.

Edit: from the BBC: -

At the end of David Cameron's interview on This Morning, presenter Phillip Schofield previews the next segment on the programme, which features a man who can "pinch your wallet, your watch and even your tie without you noticing".

David Cameron is heard off camera, quipping: "Who's that, Alex Salmond?"

Double edit: from Instagram (volume very low, need to turn it up) https://instagram.com/p/1xj_7QTLbd/

Pesmerga fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Apr 22, 2015

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Pesmerga posted:

"Coming up on @itvthismorning, a man who can steal your watch without you noticing". @David_Cameron: "Who's that, Alex Salmond?"

:frogon: C'mon Dave, tell us what you really think!

Seriously, from someone representing the office of Prime Minister, that's pretty loving unacceptable.

Edit: from the BBC: -

At the end of David Cameron's interview on This Morning, presenter Phillip Schofield previews the next segment on the programme, which features a man who can "pinch your wallet, your watch and even your tie without you noticing".

David Cameron is heard off camera, quipping: "Who's that, Alex Salmond?"

oh come on, if it was the other way round you'd crease up

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Oberleutnant posted:

oh come on, if it was the other way round you'd crease up

Not really. It just makes you look petty.

tdrules
Jan 12, 2014
it's just pre-election banter m8

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
He won't be PM for long.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Petty, but still funny.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Gonzo McFee posted:

He won't be PM for long.

he's not PM now. parliament was disolved before the election campaign officially kicked off.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

Oberleutnant posted:

oh come on, if it was the other way round you'd crease up

It doesn't really work the other way around though. Dave wouldn't take someone's wallet, watch and tie without them noticing. Instead, he'd mug a homeless person and give their stuff to the person with the watch, wallet and tie.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Fans posted:

If you move to a country you're never allowed to identify as a member of it. Fact. This is why all immigrants aren't really British and can never claim to be.

And is presumably why I was signatory to my Polish friend's naturalisation a year or two ago, right?

I would have less of an issue with Coohoolin if he hadn't been putting on the accent in both text and speech since within three months of arriving in Aberdeen, and if he didn't identify so strongly with the Scottish people that he once said that if the referendum failed he would go to live in Ireland and campaign for their independence - which thankfully he didn't do, because he'd be killed if he did.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Cerv posted:

he's not PM now. parliament was disolved before the election campaign officially kicked off.

But he's still Prime Minister. He continues all functions and retains Prime Ministerial power until such time as a new Parliament is called (when he may no longer be Prime Minister).

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
I really don't understand people who have reflexive accents. Immigrated a decade ago, still sound Canadian as hell. I feel like I'd be making fun of people if I tried?

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

CoolCab posted:

I really don't understand people who have reflexive accents. Immigrated a decade ago, still sound Canadian as hell. I feel like I'd be making fun of people if I tried?

I think some people pick up accents more than others. Having moved a lot, particularly as a child, I think my accent is somewhat more fluid (to the point that no-one can really tell where I'm from, because different words have a different accent). Supposedly, people who speak multiple languages are also likely to have much more fluidity in accent.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

CoolCab posted:

I really don't understand people who have reflexive accents. Immigrated a decade ago, still sound Canadian as hell. I feel like I'd be making fun of people if I tried?

If you try to affect an accent people will make fun of you. If you start to pick up the edges of one by living in a place for a while people will usually only make fun of you when you go home and sound weird to them.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Pesmerga posted:

I think some people pick up accents more than others. Having moved a lot, particularly as a child, I think my accent is somewhat more fluid (to the point that no-one can really tell where I'm from, because different words have a different accent). Supposedly, people who speak multiple languages are also likely to have much more fluidity in accent.

I moved a large amount as a child too, to places with ridiculously variant accents and it did the exact opposite to me; I wound up stubbornly sticking to one. Different strokes, I guess.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

a goon posted:

I don't understand people

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


I used to speak like a semi-posh fucker at school, went to uni in Lancaster, returned with short vowels and weird slang from all over the UK, and now have a slight Gloucestershire diarrrrrlect. And that's pretty mild, one of my friends used to go on day trips to Dublin and come back with a completely different Irish voice, which he would keep for weeks.

Cerv posted:

he's not PM now. parliament was disolved before the election campaign officially kicked off.

If nobody's PM at the moment, I'm claiming it, first act as PM is to dissolve the parliamentary system, bagsy no returns

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Malcolm XML posted:

programming is something that's probably best done as an apprenticeship but good software engineering/computer science does need a lot of theory.

i'm curious what your starting salaries are

Got a couple of guys in last year to work on some process systems using Linux, Perl along with integration with Atlassian products (Jira, Stash, Bamboo) and they started on 27500 quid. Neither of them had worked with anything accept Java and Windows for their degree courses and had no clue about TDD or Agile so it was starting pretty much from scratch. If universities even spent just one term on things like Waterfall/Agile/Scrum and mixed up the environments and languages used that would be a good step forward. Anyway they got sent on some starter UNix dev courses in the first few months and then we chucked a fresh dev server and told to get going under the watch of a senior dev and they did a good job of it and it is rolling out now to about 15 dev teams and helped take a lot of stress and time out of monthly releases.

Theory wise I am not sure there is more theory that can be taught in a college course as at least in my experience by the time you hit your degree course they expected you to at least have a grasp of programming and at least a basic understanding of how a computer works which is enough to be taught and through experience learn development/admin skills that will be useful for a career and not saddle you with student loans. However if you want to go and do research in an area then sure you need a degree and to get those academic contacts to get you on your way,

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
Julian Huppert is distributing election leaflets in such a way that he could be accused of misrepresenting himself as an independent candidate rather than a Lib-Dem: -

https://electionleaflets.org/leaflets/10158/

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I really hope we get some cctv footage of this.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/22/police-release-pictures-of-hatton-garden-jewellery-raid

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

CoolCab posted:

I moved a large amount as a child too, to places with ridiculously variant accents and it did the exact opposite to me; I wound up stubbornly sticking to one. Different strokes, I guess.

I ended up with a nothing accent. People in Scotland generally think I'm English, people in England think I'm Scottish (though that might be more the vocabulary - aye, I'll have a wee cup of tea kind of thing) and sometimes people think I'm Australian or South African. It would be nice to sound like I belonged somewhere.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
In other news regular UKMT poster Arthur 'tentish klown' Scargill has launched the SLP manifesto:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32384397

quote:

Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour Party says public schools like Eton and Harrow should be abolished and a 90% top rate of tax introduced.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Jedit posted:

And is presumably why I was signatory to my Polish friend's naturalisation a year or two ago, right?

Yeah but is he really British or just pretending? I think we can both agree that isn't at all a kind of scummy point to make.

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

If I was a Lib-Dem I'd try to hide it as well. Spoke to my local Lib-Dem candidate the air of resigned defeat was pretty clear.

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Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011

I find it highly amusing that the filth didn't respond to the alarm because there had been too many false alarms in the past.

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