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DNova posted:I'm sure what you saw was a re-run. No, it was a new episode for Earth Day. It was taped back in February. TPIR doesn't show reruns until June. Here's the golden-road.net recap. http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=24778.0
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rockinricky posted:No, it was a new episode for Earth Day. It was taped back in February. TPIR doesn't show reruns until June. I would have bet money on it being a re-run, holy poo poo. Still for sale, only $220 for 32gb: http://www.amazon.com/Zune-Video-MP3-Player-Platinum/dp/B002JPITY8
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I miss having a Zune that worked. The software was easy to use, it could sync over wifi, it held all my music and podcasts, and the battery would last for days of play. My phone is now slightly worse at doing all of that, but does it automatically and also isn't broken, so. Sorry, specialists. The generalists caught up (mostly).
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"Specialisation is for insects." From a practical perspective, I'd rather have one device that does half a dozen tasks in an acceptable manner than half a dozen devices that each do one thing great. (Why can't I get a proper ute in Europe?  )
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Collateral Damage posted:"Specialisation is for insects." Are tech companies missing a trick by letting you buy one generalized $300 device instead of a bunch of specialized $150 devices?
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I have a few film cameras: The Pair of Olympuses (Olympii?) on the right and the 4x5 Speed Graphic on the left are what I used in my college career (I've shot spot news for the school paper with the Speed Graphic, on Polaroid I had for large-format class), the others are gifts/cool-looking cheap ebay purchases that I've maybe put one roll of film through. I also at one point had a Yashica-Mat TLR, but recently sold it to a Dorkroom goon because film is dead. sirbeefalot posted:RIT, with its huge photography program in the city where consumer film and cameras were born and raised, recently removed (well, converted to hilariously small offices) a huge portion of the freshman b/w darkrooms and I think all but like 2 color film processing machines. Big, big difference from even 10 years ago when my wife graduated from the program. I think I was in the last color photo class at my alma mater to actually use the enlargers, about ten years ago. Some of my classmates got great deals on enlargers and one guy bought the color print developing machine. Then I went to the university Mark Seliger claims to have graduated from (his former teachers refuse to acknowledge his existence, and won't say why*) and the color printing was all digital, though they still had film scanners. Still shot 4x5 slide film with Polaroids to check exposure in the commercial class, though. Dick Trauma posted:Like most analog to digital changes there's a visceral aspect to the experience that's missing, but in this case I think something's definitely lost. Bobby Digital posted:My ex teaches high school photography and they do a film unit complete with darkroom. razorrozar posted:Are tech companies missing a trick by letting you buy one generalized $300 device instead of a bunch of specialized $150 devices? On a similar note, I remember when the Kindle came out, and I thought it was amazing, because it could get wikipedia over the 3g at no additional charge. It was basically the hitchhiker's guide. Now I have a phone that has more CPU speed and RAM (and the entire internet) than the high-end-of-middlin' desktop computer I had when the Kindle came out, and my $500-two-years-ago bottom-end Lenovo (in name only) laptop will run any game that came out before this month. *aside from the time in Photoshop class when I turned in some weird-rear end poo poo, and the prof said "Heh. You're a lot like Seliger," as his only comment and moved on, and I got an A on the assignment. Chillbro Baggins has a new favorite as of 13:38 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I wanna see how modern that thing can be pushed. Like, what's the most recently released game that could be played on it. My dad had a similar system in the early 2000s and if his experience is any indicator, any games more intense than say, Everquest or Quake 3 ran like dogshit. I had an old Voodoo5 5500 PCI card in a Celeron 533Mhz system at one time, it played games of the time at great framerates but once others even like HL2 or Doom 3 came out, it was like playing a slideshow.
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razorrozar posted:Are tech companies missing a trick by letting you buy one generalized $300 device instead of a bunch of specialized $150 devices? The problem is that once someone releases a "good enough" combined product, you pretty much have to add the features to your own to be competitive.
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Collateral Damage posted:"Specialisation is for insects." I'd agree with you if the one device had a battery that lasted more than a day.
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spog posted:I'd agree with you if the one device had a battery that lasted more than a day. 
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Delivery McGee posted:Yeah, the hand cancer. I used to have a sterling silver ring, it rotted away in the photo chemicals over a year or so. That can't be good for you. Digital is somewhat less likely to kill you, and you can see what you're doing in the processing. I admit it loses a certain je nais sais quoi, but the ease of use and not having to pay for chemicals outweighs that. I wasn't talking about making prints vs. digital in general, but the ability to make photo art with paper and an enlarger.
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Delivery McGee posted:Yeah, the hand cancer. I used to have a sterling silver ring, it rotted away in the photo chemicals over a year or so. That can't be good for you. Think about this statement for a moment. Chemistry intended to dissolve silver salts destroyed a silver ring. I worked for a third party service provider to Fujifilm for the better part of 10 years and was in almost daily contact with photo chemistry, worst thing that ever happened was a mild case of contact dermatitis. My father has been working around photo processing in some capacity or another for nearly 40 years (went to college and finished with a BFA in photography in the 70s, he was a photo lab manager from the mid-80s to late 90s and now works for the same company I used to work for in the same capacity) and has shown no ill effects. As long as you aren't stupid and directly ingest it photo chemicals are about as dangerous as most household cleaners. Geoj has a new favorite as of 21:20 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Im not even sure photo chemicals are that toxic to ingest anyway (dont do it anyway) because as you said, they act on silver compounds which we dont have any of as far as I know. Que a chemist coming in to explain why such chemicals will turn your insides into solid matter or something. I will say I dont miss the process of spooling the drat film into the developing container totally blind. Those ratchet teeth bits never quite worked all the time. Nutsngum has a new favorite as of 20:25 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Nutsngum posted:Im not even sure photo chemicals are that toxic to ingest anyway (dont do it anyway) because as you said, they act on silver compounds which we dont have any of as far as I know. You don't maybe... 
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Antifreeze Head posted:Only $450 an I can plug in my old Roland card AND a CGA adapter!? If you actually order bulk quantities of steel, you're using EDI anyway.
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Jerry Cotton posted:If you actually order bulk quantities of steel, you're using EDI anyway. I am in charge of our EDI system at my job [midsize e-commerce place], and it's still widely used by a lot of modern companies, big [like Walmart big] and small. I wouldn't consider it obsolete, it still does what it needs to do pretty well, and a lot of companies hate change and have 20 year old systems that pump out EDI data, so yay for job security. EDI is cool except when companies say "gently caress the standards do it our way"
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Nutsngum posted:Im not even sure photo chemicals are that toxic to ingest anyway (dont do it anyway) because as you said, they act on silver compounds which we dont have any of as far as I know. One side effect of the death of dark room photography was the death of a lot of clandestine drug synthesis. Dark room photography was/is the only legitimate justification for someone not working in an industrial lab to buy many of the chemicals used in the synthesis of MDMA, LSD, etc.
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Code Jockey posted:I am in charge of our EDI system at my job [midsize e-commerce place], and it's still widely used by a lot of modern companies, big [like Walmart big] and small. I wouldn't consider it obsolete, it still does what it needs to do pretty well, and a lot of companies hate change and have 20 year old systems that pump out EDI data, so yay for job security. What? No-one was saying EDI is obsolete.
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Jerry Cotton posted:What? No-one was saying EDI is obsolete. Oh I know, I guess sometimes I feel like it is myself, with modern data formats like XML, JSON, etc. e. But yeah, even if there's newer ways to transport data, EDI still does a great job, and is just as readable to me as any other format is. The discussion of old ISA gear just makes me thank god we're out of the era of jumpers, CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT. Code Jockey has a new favorite as of 01:36 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Gobbeldygook posted:You can't generalize this because dark room photographers used an astounding number of chemicals. Dark room photographers sometimes used utterly deadly and toxic compounds. I've read dark room photography recipes that called for potassium cyanide, chromium salts, mercury salts, uranium salts (not as dangerous as it sounds), and so much more. C-41 process is the most common (especially now with film circling the drain) and the previous statements about photo chemistry being relatively harmless definitely apply to it. Yes there are some exotic mediums that generate some nasty poo poo but your average hobbyist level darkroom isn't going to use them. Geoj has a new favorite as of 03:00 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:
We had one for 6th grade social studies class. It was awesome the very few times I had to chance to play with it, but that was rare because we were a bad class and not allowed to enjoy any free time. I had one of these as a kid. I think I had the Sesame Street one pictured and absolutely remember a book/tape for Inspector Gadget and Hello Kitty. 
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Antifreeze Head posted:Lots of stuff that isn't for the consumer market looks like rear end. Here's a website that provides radio broadcast technology to large portions of Canada: http://www.oakwoodbroadcast.com/specials.asp That doesn't look like rear end, that looks like something with lots of easy to find information  Speaking of technology that I want to be obsolete as soon as possible, those new-style websites that are highly vertical and have a few lines of huge-size text or a large picture every page that make you do a ton of scrolling while still barely having any content.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:We had one for 6th grade social studies class. It was awesome the very few times I had to chance to play with it, but that was rare because we were a bad class and not allowed to enjoy any free time. Oh jeez, I had a babysitter that had one of these. It seemed so amazing when I was 4!
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RC and Moon Pie posted:I had one of these as a kid. I think I had the Sesame Street one pictured and absolutely remember a book/tape for Inspector Gadget and Hello Kitty. I had one of these too. My favorite tape was "Please Don't Push The Red Button", where Grover gets increasingly frustrated at you as you leave the red button pressed the entire time. 
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cowtown posted:I had one of these too. My favorite tape was "Please Don't Push The Red Button", where Grover gets increasingly frustrated at you as you leave the red button pressed the entire time. I've been playing Please, Don't Touch Anything and this image made me smile.
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:
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For a university film project many moons ago we got the idea of emulating the Matrix bullet time pan effect. This involved 50 cheap disposable cameras I scored for free rigged with little motors to trigger at the same time with a video camera at either end rolling normally. What this got me was 2 seconds to do the stupid poo poo I wanted and I got 24(?) takes at it. Getting the photos developed cost my weekly ramen budget but worked well enough for a low tech kludge. It looked horrible compared to the hi8 footage and my primitive editing/colour grading skills at the time didn't help things. We also used some old forensics software called 'Photomodeler' to get basic 3D models of the actor so I could import them into Alias Wavefront Maya (boo Autodesk!) for further lovely editing. I have the raw footage somewhere on an ancient SCSI RAID tower that I do not have the will to try and get running again. Some day in the future I'll get it running and upload it for equal parts laughter and shame.
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Geoj posted:As long as you aren't stupid and directly ingest it photo chemicals are about as dangerous as most household cleaners. Yeah, it was more making fun of OSHA -- on the first day, the teacher gave us the spiel about OSHA regs: "you're supposed to wear an apron and use tongs and gloves, these things are provided if you want 'em, but you're students so technically not required to abide by OSHA regs." It did a number on my white cotton towel, though. Did y'alls photo classes require you to have a towel at all times in the darkroom? Geoj posted:C-41 process is the most common (especially now with film circling the drain) and the previous statements about photo chemistry being relatively harmless definitely apply to it. Yes there are some exotic mediums that generate some nasty poo poo but your average hobbyist level darkroom isn't going to use them. On a tangent, I like to think Jell-O has increased in quality lately -- back in the day, it was the stuff that wasn't up to Kodak's standards. Also, remember when every grocery store had a photo lab, or at least a kiosk to drop your film for sendoff processing? When I was in college during that time during the transition to digital, I shot for the school paper. The paper was all done on computers, but decent digital cameras were still too expensive for the average student, so we'd shoot color film and take it to the grocery store down the street with a 1-hour photo, get the film processed with no prints (took half the time and was half the price), then scan the negatives. Edit: the one full-color issue we did a year, we had to paste up on a lightbox old-school, to be photographed -- the school's print shop only bid B&W with spot color, we farmed out the printing of the full-color issue to the local small-town newspaper that couldn't afford to upgrade to computerized layout. On a similar note, the newspaper building I work in was built in 1984ish, and literally half the building is abandoned -- one wing is the advertising offices and newsroom, the other wing is the old photo lab/typesetting/litho spaces, where three light switches still worked when I started there in '04: the lobby of the photo department, the studio, and the hallway between them, because we still used the studio. Now the studio is in the archive room off the back of the newsroom, so I'm pretty sure they've pulled all the breakers to the film wing. Chillbro Baggins has a new favorite as of 13:58 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Antifreeze Head posted:Lots of stuff that isn't for the consumer market looks like rear end. Here's a website that provides radio broadcast technology to large portions of Canada: http://www.oakwoodbroadcast.com/specials.asp I wouldn't say it looks like rear end necessarily, it's just super basic - which is kind of nice, especially when you don't want to dig through a bunch of garbage looking for something you need right away. I wish more tech sites were like that and made it easier to navigate and find stuff.
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Humphreys posted:For a university film project many moons ago we got the idea of emulating the Matrix bullet time pan effect. This involved 50 cheap disposable cameras I scored for free rigged with little motors to trigger at the same time with a video camera at either end rolling normally. What this got me was 2 seconds to do the stupid poo poo I wanted and I got 24(?) takes at it. Aw, that's adorable 
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:
I totally had one of these! Half of the little game/slides were awful and half were pretty cool. I remember there was one where you had to like pick what type of food each of several animals would eat. I remember that the buttons were really thick rubber square pads that were really mushy, and I think there was an electronic voice?
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Last Chance posted:Aw, that's adorable It lead to a career of kludges including using two HDDs (one mounted horizontally and one vertical) as a makeshift stabilizer, a lighting stand and poles as a dolly and many many more sad embarrising 'we need it now' monstrosities.
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MeatloafCat posted:I actually think I might have a battery for this, if I get back around to shooting film I'm definitely going to try it out someday: Those take a 4LR44 battery. If you cannot find those at a store, just buy 4x LR44 batteries and tape them into a tube 
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Is there a reason why cameras use/used so many different varieties of battery? Years ago a friend without a credit card asked me to use ebay to find some camera battery he needed and it seemed like there was a staggering quantity of obscure varieties that weren't used for anything else. Was it before AA and AAAs became popular or do they hold better charge or something?
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Is there a reason why cameras use/used so many different varieties of battery? Years ago a friend without a credit card asked me to use ebay to find some camera battery he needed and it seemed like there was a staggering quantity of obscure varieties that weren't used for anything else. Was it before AA and AAAs became popular or do they hold better charge or something? As I understand it, the crazy camera batteries were used to provide quick cycling times and bursts of power to flashes primarily, but also to the shutter. EDIT: Also: form factor, profit, and TRADITION! moller has a new favorite as of 22:01 on Apr 26, 2015 |
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