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I completely forgot to send off my vote by mail/proxy application and the deadline has passed so this election (local&general) will be my first in adult life I haven’t taken part in. I'm kind of surprised how not bothered I am, I'm another lost libdem voter and my choices in my constituency would have been between tories (52% in 2010) and the libdems(28% in 2010). Every other candidate lost their deposit, so my vote was feeling kind of pointless anyway 
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Got this amongst my electoral junk mail this morning (I'm in Bournemouth West). Never heard of Patria before, but from the dagger in their logo and policies like "Give judges right to impose capital punishment", "repeal the ridiculous Human Rights Act", "Stop further immigration" and "There should be no further mosques" I suspect they may be a teensy bit right of centre. 
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Apr 29, 2015 12:32
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Is anyone doing anything fun on election night? I'm thinking of going to ELECTIONGIGGLE 2015 but my wife is working the next day so I don't know if I'm going to bother. The other option is going to the frontline club, where I've been meaning to go but haven't yet had a chance..
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Apr 29, 2015 12:33
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Payndz posted:Got this amongst my electoral junk mail this morning (I'm in Bournemouth West). Never heard of Patria before, but from the dagger in their logo and policies like "Give judges right to impose capital punishment", "repeal the ridiculous Human Rights Act", "Stop further immigration" and "There should be no further mosques" I suspect they may be a teensy bit right of centre. 
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Apr 29, 2015 12:34
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Payndz posted:Got this amongst my electoral junk mail this morning (I'm in Bournemouth West). Never heard of Patria before, but from the dagger in their logo and policies like "Give judges right to impose capital punishment", "repeal the ridiculous Human Rights Act", "Stop further immigration" and "There should be no further mosques" I suspect they may be a teensy bit right of centre. Huh, they have a RationalWiki page.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:35
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Payndz posted:Got this amongst my electoral junk mail this morning (I'm in Bournemouth West). Never heard of Patria before, but from the dagger in their logo and policies like "Give judges right to impose capital punishment", "repeal the ridiculous Human Rights Act", "Stop further immigration" and "There should be no further mosques" I suspect they may be a teensy bit right of centre. "Race Relations Acts and similar laws will be repealed." That's a bold promise. I like the confidence of this man.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:36
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I learned something today. Looks like Leicester is home to the fash-wing of CAMRA. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/English_Shieldwall
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Apr 29, 2015 12:39
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Got a couple of UKIP leaflets yesterday promising "VOTE FOR US AND NO MORE EU IMMIGRATION" , which surprised me because they were specifically addressed to me, a southern european immigrant (who can't vote in the general election). Do they just send this crap to anyone registered in the local electoral office?
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Apr 29, 2015 12:42
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Darth Walrus posted:Ah, I get it. The Conservatives may be the biggest government, but there's no way for them to assemble 326 seats without something insane like Lab/Con due to the Lib Dems collapsing and their other allies being tiny. They look likely to retake East Belfast from the Alliance Party so it may be 9. Not often I have anything good to say about the DUP but even they think the Tory strategy of othering Scottish MPs is way out of line. NI unionists' connection with Scotland doesn't seem to have been at all factored into that strategy and the DUP is increasingly making noises about working with Labour. quote:The Conservatives have outlined plans to save £12bn from the welfare budget. That's a very big shift from just a couple of months ago. Seems Cameron's Tories have a real knack for alienating even their most natural of allies.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:46
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Cameron on BBC Radio 2:quote:Cameron says Labour are planning to run a deficit in perpetuity. That is absurd, he says. People running businesses, and families, know that you can run an overdraft for some of the time, but not all of the time. So Tory cuts are likely to focus on children and the unemployed. LemonDrizzle posted:George Osborne, Hansard, 26th November 2009: Further down that page: quote:He also pointed out that the law represented “a constitutional first” by imposing no legal sanction if the goals were missed. The Conservatives confirmed Wednesday that their own proposed law would likewise lack any punishment for those breaking it. SNAKES N CAKES fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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Apr 29, 2015 12:53
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Party Boat posted:Forming a government is about being able to "command the confidence of the house", which didn't necessarily require you to lead the biggest party. It's why, even as a likely-Labour voter, things like this really frustrate me: 
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Apr 29, 2015 12:53
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The Daily Politics is doing a thing about political communication and apparently UKIP voters love Mrs Brown's Boys. Definitive confirmation that UKIP voters are thick bastards imo.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:56
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I don't understand why we're supposed to treat the promise to implement a low tax law any more seriously then the promise to keep taxes low.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:56
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CoolCab posted:I don't understand why we're supposed to treat the promise to implement a low tax law any more seriously then the promise to keep taxes low. Because passing a "no tax raises" law could shame any opposition parties who refuse to vote for it.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:59
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Payndz posted:Got this amongst my electoral junk mail this morning (I'm in Bournemouth West). Never heard of Patria before, but from the dagger in their logo and policies like "Give judges right to impose capital punishment", "repeal the ridiculous Human Rights Act", "Stop further immigration" and "There should be no further mosques" I suspect they may be a teensy bit right of centre. I suspect you might be right, from their leader's bio quote:I am a semi-retired electrician, having run my own business for the last forty-two years, since finishing an apprenticeship. I also served my local community as a Retained Fireman for Hampshire Fire Service for more than thirty years, until being dismissed because of my membership of the British National Party.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:00
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Niric posted:It's why, even as a likely-Labour voter, things like this really frustrate me: Fewer MPs means a lower chance of 'commanding the confidence of the house'.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:01
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Pissflaps posted:Fewer MPs means a lower chance of 'commanding the confidence of the house'. That's true. But it doesn't say "The biggest party across the UK has a higher chance of commanding the confidence of the house (depending on the make up of Parliament)." It's the misleading and disingenuous certainty which grates.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:06
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Niric posted:That's true. But it doesn't say "The biggest party across the UK has a higher chance of commanding the confidence of the house (depending on the make up of Parliament)." It's the misleading and disingenuous certainty which grates. While your point is completely accurate, I feel trying to explain that to the majority of the populace would be a very difficult thing to do. Its easier to say (and sort of true) that being the biggest party gets you in power. Its a bit of a nasty campaign trick, but this is the time for them.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:10
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Brown Moses posted:I suspect you might be right, from their leader's bio quote:I was sacked from my Fire Service role due to being a member of the BNP, which, to this day, hurts me deeply.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:12
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serious gaylord posted:While your point is completely accurate, I feel trying to explain that to the majority of the populace would be a very difficult thing to do. Its easier to say (and sort of true) that being the biggest party gets you in power. Its a bit of a nasty campaign trick, but this is the time for them. I understand why it's been done, but I really don't like it and think it will actually backfire on Labour since it opens them up to (not unreasonable and completely avoidable) attacks from the SNP and others about their lovely campaign tactics, further feeding the narrative that Scottish Labour are terrible liars. Personally, I don't think this approach will win more votes than it loses.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:17
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Good news for pubs and a lovely gently caress you to unscrupulous shitheel developers, though it's weird that Westminster Council are doing something correct. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...e-10211892.html Evening Standard posted:Pub must be rebuilt brick by brick, orders council, after developers tore it down to build flats
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Apr 29, 2015 13:21
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Good news for pubs and a lovely gently caress you to unscrupulous shitheel developers, though it's weird that Westminster Council are doing something correct. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...e-10211892.html You see this stuff happen all the time and them get away with it. But sometimes they don't and its great. There was an old school bought up by developers near me and when the council refused to let them tear it up and build 14 houses on its land it 'mysteriously' caught fire and had to be demolished. The council still refused to grant planning permission and eventually they had to sell the land off for pennies. Its a park now.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:29
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Good news for pubs and a lovely gently caress you to unscrupulous shitheel developers, though it's weird that Westminster Council are doing something correct. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...e-10211892.html chances of this actually being enforced though, rather than whatever shell company owns the land deciding to fold?
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Apr 29, 2015 13:36
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Cerv posted:chances of this actually being enforced though, rather than whatever shell company owns the land deciding to fold? 0.01% Its a message though.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:38
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Developers from Tel Aviv illegally bulldozing buildings? Well I never.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:42
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Cerv posted:chances of this actually being enforced though, rather than whatever shell company owns the land deciding to fold? H&S is one of those areas where they will not hesitate to pierce the corporate veil, so there's a chance of action against the directors themselves if they do fold given the amount of outrage around what they did.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZm9_uKtyo
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Apr 29, 2015 13:43
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Apr 29, 2015 13:46
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Good news for pubs and a lovely gently caress you to unscrupulous shitheel developers, though it's weird that Westminster Council are doing something correct. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...e-10211892.html edit: beaten. Though I guess they lose all their money, so there's that.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:46
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serious gaylord posted:You see this stuff happen all the time and them get away with it. But sometimes they don't and its great. There was an old school bought up by developers near me and when the council refused to let them tear it up and build 14 houses on its land it 'mysteriously' caught fire and had to be demolished. The council still refused to grant planning permission and eventually they had to sell the land off for pennies. Its a park now. That's the main thing I don't understand with this story, why didn't they make it look like an accident? Going in in broad daylight wearing high-vis jackets how did they think they would get away with it?
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Apr 29, 2015 13:55
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Zephro posted:I imagine the kind of people who demolish a building out of spite cos they weren't given planning permission aren't actually going to rebuild the pub. Especially since they live in Israel, have no website that I can find and give every appearance of being a bunch of two-bit shysters. The point the council are making is that if you dont get planning permission, suddenly having the building be a plot of rubble wont make them change their mind. I think its a statement to stop the 'accidental' fires etc that lead to listed buildings getting knocked down for safety reasons.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:58
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a pipe smoking dog posted:That's the main thing I don't understand with this story, why didn't they make it look like an accident? Going in in broad daylight wearing high-vis jackets how did they think they would get away with it? Party Boat posted:Developers from Tel Aviv illegally bulldozing buildings? Well I never.
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Apr 29, 2015 14:01
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In terms of Milliband, not bad. He certainly did well in improving my image of him. As for the interview itself, pretty typical of Brand, chaotic and waffling with topics taking far longer to discuss than they should have and barely any structure.
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Apr 29, 2015 14:10
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:it's weird that Westminster Council are doing something correct. Probably means the developers didn't think to slip the council a suitable bung.
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Apr 29, 2015 14:29
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Mega Comrade posted:In terms of Milliband, not bad. He certainly did well in improving my image of him. As for the interview itself, pretty typical of Brand, chaotic and waffling with topics taking far longer to discuss than they should have and barely any structure. Brand's mannerisms are so bad. Like some hunching clutching gollum. And use a loving glass! Agree that Ed did about as well as it's possible to do in an interview like that. I love the constant 'leaning' Ed's doing to get away from his loving arms:  Guavanaut posted:I learned something today. Looks like Leicester is home to the fash-wing of CAMRA. Whatever I may feel about their policies, that is a fantastic name for a nationalist organisation. Party Boat posted:Developers from Tel Aviv illegally bulldozing buildings? Well I never. He shoots, he scores! 
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Apr 29, 2015 14:37
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serious gaylord posted:You see this stuff happen all the time and them get away with it. But sometimes they don't and its great. There was an old school bought up by developers near me and when the council refused to let them tear it up and build 14 houses on its land it 'mysteriously' caught fire and had to be demolished. The council still refused to grant planning permission and eventually they had to sell the land off for pennies. Its a park now. Similar story I think, the old cinema on Kings Heath high street has been a burned-out wreck for basically as long as I remember. My dad says it was almost certainly insurance fraud.
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Apr 29, 2015 14:39
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brand's whole deal is being "off" and independent, though, if he was more "serious" he would lose a lot of his appeal very quickly
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Apr 29, 2015 14:42
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Good news for pubs and a lovely gently caress you to unscrupulous shitheel developers, though it's weird that Westminster Council are doing something correct. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...e-10211892.html  V. Illych L. posted:brand's whole deal is being "off" and independent, though, if he was more "serious" he would lose a lot of his appeal very quickly That says more about his viewership.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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I've been thinking more about the right wing argument that labour can't be in charge if they're not the largest party, wouldn't a better attack be to point out that Labour-SNP government is going to be undemocratic because they're going to get well less than 40% of the vote?
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