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Pvt.Scott posted:I haven't started watching the videos yet and only skimmed the thread real quick. What's the setting conceit behind the orcs resurrecting? I understand that the protagonist has a spooky ghost bro as his excuse, but how are decapitated orcs coming back for more? Orcs (Uruk) are probably notoriously strong and resilient. Despite whatever else this means for them, they are hardy and can come back from A LOT OF PUNISHMENT. I don't believe it's come up in any of the videos yet, but... One of the captain types can have the name "brain damaged". Their model literally has a piece of metal encircling an open head wound that has part of their brain showing. Their opening taunt in fights is just screaming incoherently. I don't think lazyfire has a specific nemesis yet since he hasn't died, but your nemesis will come back from even more ridiculous punishment than the average Uruk captain will. I had a nemesis who survived getting his head chopped off. He still haunts me. Literally.
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Yeah, the main justification is 'idiot ball'. The orcs like to yell, "You should have made sure I was dead!" when they come back sometimes, and all I can think of is that yeah, Talion really should have, but if the game designer gave me the option to do that, then I'd be the one deciding who came back which would take away all the fun from the system. So Talion has to be stupid about it for the game to work.
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Apr 29, 2015 20:43
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cargohills posted:I think they only come back if you don't decapitate them. Others have stated that orcs can come back from decapitation Midnight Voyager posted:Boy you're wrong! My first Nemesis was an orc I decapitated. He came back with a giant metal collar holding his loving head on! And he mentioned having had his head lopped off! WHILE MOCKING ME!
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Apr 29, 2015 20:45
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Midnight Voyager posted:Boy you're wrong! My first Nemesis was an orc I decapitated. He came back with a giant metal collar holding his loving head on! And he mentioned having had his head lopped off! WHILE MOCKING ME!  You got moxie, Shadow of Mordor. I don't think that's happened to me, yet.
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Apr 29, 2015 20:46
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Gothsheep posted:Yeah, the main justification is 'idiot ball'. The orcs like to yell, "You should have made sure I was dead!" when they come back sometimes, and all I can think of is that yeah, Talion really should have, but if the game designer gave me the option to do that, then I'd be the one deciding who came back which would take away all the fun from the system. So Talion has to be stupid about it for the game to work. I just know I was really glad when the guy who almost kicked my rear end singlehandedly got pulled off the board while temp-dead. I was nervously checking it to see if he was going to come back (and be angrier) until that happened, which is reason enough to be glad that permakilling them isn't entirely in your hands.
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deadly_pudding posted:
There's a reason Sauron is AKA "The Necromancer".
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So, this game is kind of like professional wrestling, but with swords. Just think how cool it would be to have a wrestling game with the Nemesis system. "I took you down at the Summer Slam-Jam and I'm going to take you down today, Dûsh!"
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Pvt.Scott posted:So, this game is kind of like professional wrestling, but with swords. Just think how cool it would be to have a wrestling game with the Nemesis system. "I took you down at the Summer Slam-Jam and I'm going to take you down today, Dûsh!" There are one or two mechanics later on that make this even better.
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Apr 29, 2015 21:54
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 Episode 10 is something I don't want to do again, namely record something so long I couldn't possibly put it into a single video. This is like an hour of me dicking around right here. I recorded this a couple hours after the vote that gave me free reign over unselected captains and I did my best to clear the board while advancing the interests of our selected people. I also ended up trying to lead a Graug over to Ushgol and failed at it pretty hard, but that's at the end of the video. Outside of that I ended up getting a throw kill on a captain which is incredibly funny because you can take automatically kill a captain at half health if they can be grabbed using that technique.
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Apr 29, 2015 22:12
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I wish I'd done more recruitment events, Pushkrimp's voice set for them is pretty great. And his armor is pretty stylish these days.
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Apr 29, 2015 22:59
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Sindai posted:I wish I'd done more recruitment events, Pushkrimp's voice set for them is pretty great. I like pretty much everything about Pushkrimp. He's a great heel.
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Apr 29, 2015 23:03
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Er. You say that Jaws didn't get anything new, but he got Monster-Slayer. He didn't have it before, and that's why you helped him. EDIT: Oh man. In my own game, I chain-drained a Fearless orc to death after infuriating him. (Hatred of Defeat). One of the bonuses I got? Terrified. That's oddly satisfying. Midnight Voyager fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 29, 2015 23:28
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In that Trial by Ordeal you watched with Jaws, he did get a new skill. Fittingly, he got Monster Slayer. Also man, you finally got that stupid bow rune, only to replace it with a stupid dagger rune five minutes later. (EDIT: Bah. Someone beat me to it.)
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Gothsheep posted:Yeah. I don't like Gollum as a character very much, but I would have been very surprised if he wasn't there, simply because, you know, this is where he was at this point in the timeline. Most people say the game is set between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the RIng, but that's not right. The game is set in that period after Bilbo gave the ring to Frodo, but before Frodo left for Rivendell. So tossing him in there just so the game doesn't feel as disconnected from the events of LOTR doesn't surprise me at all. I'd have been much more surprised if they didn't. Even though that makes no sense because I always got the impression that it'd been CENTURIES since Minas Ithil and the Black Gate had fallen. Not like <50 years. Edit: I was thinking it'd be cool if you could attack that archer straight off the zipline. And you did! Always more Orcs - If more than five of Orcs on the board are down, you must pass time to get some orcs on the board. Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 05:37
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Veloxyll posted:Always more Orcs - If more than five of Orcs on the board are down, you must pass time to get some orcs on the board. Now, having not played the game, I could be wildly off. But doesn't that run the risk of offing, say, Ushgol who we all love and want to see become the most cowardly Warchief?
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Apr 30, 2015 06:36
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maybe. At the same time, about half the board was taking a nap at one time in that video. And it can get pretty dull without the captains around to surprise you. Though whether Lazyfire wants to complete events on the board first (like Dush's Hunt from this session) first, I dunno. That said, the four new arrivals this session didn't seem to need time passing.
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Lazy Bear posted:Now, having not played the game, I could be wildly off. But doesn't that run the risk of offing, say, Ushgol who we all love and want to see become the most cowardly Warchief?
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Apr 30, 2015 07:36
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Veloxyll posted:That said, the four new arrivals this session didn't seem to need time passing. After certain number of captains are down it will autospawn new ones in, had that happen before. Not sure if that's first section only or not though.
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Apr 30, 2015 17:55
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So every time you die to a grunt, they become a Captain, right? What happens if you really suck, or in the name of ~science~, get killed repeatedly in rapid succession by no-names? The board can't expand/grow, right? So what happens to the existing guys when you need to promote someone?
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Apr 30, 2015 18:15
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:So every time you die to a grunt, they become a Captain, right? When you get killed it causes a power struggle between the new orc and one of the orcs on the bottom row. The same as if you ignore an orc vs orc event and advanced the time. The orc that just killed you tends to win more often than not, so I think the struggle is weighted in their favor though.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:30
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:So every time you die to a grunt, they become a Captain, right? Let me tell you about my first play-through  If the board is full, that guy will usually kick the rear end of somebody on the bottom rung, replacing him. If an already-captain kills you, it's not necessarily an instant promotion, but they'll often either gain a new trait or enough of a power boost to win a duel later. If they kill you enough, they eventually become one of those horror-terrors that's immune to everything. I had that happen on an archery specialist one time, and it was the worst. I'm amazed that guy never made war chief on his own merits.
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deadly_pudding posted:Let me tell you about my first play-through Torz the Brown was this for me. Immune to combat finishers, stealth, and a beast hunter. Archer with explosive arrows, immune to wraith stun as well. The only weakness he has was ranged. Oh, and to make things better, he also had ambush. That means he'll roam outside of his area and hunt you down. He killed me once when I first started, then I killed him later by using some fire. Cue seven more fights where he keeps. Coming. Back. Every 15 minutes or so I scan the area for captains and find this rear end in a top hat in the area. I thought it was over when I took off his head. I was wrong. I was so wrong.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:53
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drat. Sounds like Torz the Brown put you in deep poo poo.
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dscruffy1 posted:Torz the Brown was this for me. Immune to combat finishers, stealth, and a beast hunter. Archer with explosive arrows, immune to wraith stun as well. The only weakness he has was ranged. I had an archer trainer guy with ambush, rapid shot and immunity to everything. He also had Humiliator, so he just kept materialising behind me, filling me with an absurd amount of arrows before I knew he was there, then taunting me and walking offscreen to vanish. That guy was awesome.
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Supersonic Shine posted:drat. Sounds like Torz the Brown put you in deep poo poo. The pro wrestling analogs that keep coming up in this thread are super apt. I hope the next "nemesis" game that gets made gives its guys catch phrases that they use in their close-up promos  "THIS TIME TORZ IS SENDING YOU TO BROWN TOWN."
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dscruffy1 posted:Torz the Brown was this for me. Immune to combat finishers, stealth, and a beast hunter. Archer with explosive arrows, immune to wraith stun as well. The only weakness he has was ranged. Ergh, I got a bastard who used spears with Ambush, and he had that trait where he would not kill you but just bail when you got to critical health. Cue a montage where I would be battling orcs, get hit from outside the screen by a spear, and he would go "YER NOT EVEN WORTH MY TOIM" and going away. I ended up tracking him to the other side of the map in the middle of a stronghold, and by that time he was immune to stealth finishers and archery; it was a bastard of a fight. Luckily he was not immune to fire or caragors. 
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deadly_pudding posted:The pro wrestling analogs that keep coming up in this thread are super apt. I hope the next "nemesis" game that gets made gives its guys catch phrases that they use in their close-up promos This thread needs more wrestling jokes, stat.
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Apr 30, 2015 19:33
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Possible alternate thread title: ORKAMANIA 2015
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Lazy Bear posted:Possible alternate thread title: ORKAMANIA 2015 Which captain is Big Show and which is The Miz?
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A warchief slot stays shrouded and it points that he has several veteran captains connected to it. and you just can't get intel on the guy. you finally get a location of where they're all those veterans are having a feast and you decide to crash it. You go in for a kill and then BAM IT'S THUGOG THE MAN-BREAKER THE FIRST WARCHIEF YOU KILLED "it's me ranger! It was me all along ranger!"
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Can an Orc's suffix change, or would that Puny guy eventually turn into the Ultimate Puny if you let him somehow power up enough?
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chitoryu12 posted:Which captain is Big Show and which is The Miz? Ghost Bro is The Undertaker. That makes Talion Paul Bearer.
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deadly_pudding posted:Ghost Bro is The Undertaker. That makes Talion Paul Bearer. This is my headcanon and I'm sticking to it.
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Oh yeah, so you can see what this fucker looks like, I've still got an image I posted from the first time I couldn't figure out how to kill THE MOST INFURIATING MAN. This is after the burns and the head coming off.
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deadly_pudding posted:The pro wrestling analogs that keep coming up in this thread are super apt. I hope the next "nemesis" game that gets made gives its guys catch phrases that they use in their close-up promos I wish this was possible, but it would require unconscionable amounts of voice acting to pull off.
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dscruffy1 posted:Oh yeah, so you can see what this fucker looks like, I've still got an image I posted from the first time I couldn't figure out how to kill THE MOST INFURIATING MAN. This is after the burns and the head coming off. Pin shot and then just unload into his head?
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Rigged Death Trap posted:You go in for a kill and then BAM IT'S THUGOG THE MAN-BREAKER THE FIRST WARCHIEF YOU KILLED "Aw,sonova bitch!" VolticSurge fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Can you pin-shot people who are invulnerable to Ranged? I could swear I pulled it off once but every subsequent attempt has had my long time rival Grisha the Uncatchable live up to his name. gently caress that guy. He keeps randomly showing up to poo poo on me, I beat him, and then he goes 'LEGGIT WOOP WOOP WOOP' and I can't catch him at all.
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^^^^^^ No you can't pinshot those invulnerable to ranged, and that can get pretty infuriating when you want to get the "scared" bonus but you can't catch up to finish them off.dscruffy1 posted:Oh yeah, so you can see what this fucker looks like, I've still got an image I posted from the first time I couldn't figure out how to kill THE MOST INFURIATING MAN. This is after the burns and the head coming off. Maybe you knew this already, but ranged vulnerabilities also includes shadow strike and the shadow kill option.
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Night10194 posted:Can you pin-shot people who are invulnerable to Ranged? I could swear I pulled it off once but every subsequent attempt has had my long time rival Grisha the Uncatchable live up to his name. You can't usually. If you manage to terrify them by exploiting a fear, it'll turn off all their immunities though, which I'm guessing is how it happened the first time. You do get abilities later that make it easier to catch fleeing captains even if they're faster than you, as well.
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