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Tomarse posted:Why do you need a skid steer? Get beer (& takeaway food) and then invite some mates round and tell them to bring a shovel and gloves with them to tear down the old shed and sort the base out and erect the new one. Old shed can be burnt while you sit around at the end of the night finishing the beer off (or if its metal go weigh it in and exchange for beer/pizza money) Old shed is actually the back off a moving van. Something like the back of this, but likely at least 30 years old. Mixture of rotted wood and buckling tin.  And I need (okay want) the skidsteer because a) we don't know enough people around here <read, basically none> and b) I've been told I'm allowed to use part of the yard to build an R/C course so I want the skidsteer to do some of the grunt work on that. Its not that I couldn't hand-bomb it, but our summer is so short here that if I can get everything done in a single Saturday its a lot handier. Plus if I can get the gravel placed, leveled and packed I can put the new shed up and move everything into it straight from the falling-apart one, then trash it :P I miss being on the farm and demo'ing buildings with a skid steer.
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May 7, 2015 16:57
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IOwnCalculus posted:And then stack that up with ever-decreasing funding (hell, in AZ, it was never there to begin with and yet somehow they're still cutting school budgets). One of the local districts has been gutted so badly they're going to four-day school weeks. In the South, cutting and damaging Public Ed is being used as a way to kickstart private religious schools and force parents to either apply to a private Christian school or look in vain for a suitable public school. There are 4 Christian Middle/High School charters within 10 miles of my house now. Lightbulb Out posted:Homework is bullshit. And studies support this. Busy work does not encourage a desire to learn, nor advanced learning. What is missing is a way to get kids to actually WANT to learn, making it interesting over making it rigorous.
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May 7, 2015 17:03
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I get the idea behind the number line and the "representations" of base 10 units and all, but I can't help but feel the real problem with math in schools is that kids just don't see the applications. Quoted for loving truth. I absolutely hated math in school because it was super boring pointless the way they had us working through the same worksheets and tests with no "hey, this can be used to do X", especially algebra and stuff. It wasn't until I went to trade school where he had to apply equations and stuff that I realized just how loving awesome math really is. Also Lightbulb Out posted:Homework is bullshit.
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May 7, 2015 17:15
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Terrible Robot posted:Quoted for loving truth. I absolutely hated math in school because it was super boring pointless the way they had us working through the same worksheets and tests with no "hey, this can be used to do X", especially algebra and stuff. It wasn't until I went to trade school where he had to apply equations and stuff that I realized just how loving awesome math really is. Same, I hated, absolutely HATED math in high school. Now I'm in applied mathematics and physics and I LOVE it. Now that I can see how math works and its real world applications and attachments to physical ideas, its suddenly the most appealing thing I know. We bore kids in public school with numbers that have no attachment to real world scenarios or physical phenomenon and science that is canned and dried to fit on a test. If we actually taught how math and science actually works with the world at large and nature, I think more kids would actually gain an interest. Instead, we BORE them to death with it. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:18 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 17:16
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CommieGIR posted:And studies support this. Busy work does not encourage a desire to learn, nor advanced learning. What is missing is a way to get kids to actually WANT to learn, making it interesting over making it rigorous. Yeah, when I was in school I never did any homework, to the detriment of my grades. I enjoyed learning and school and would get my work done, but if I had to do any at home I refused to do it. I was a bad good kid. You should have enough time to get your work done in school, where the school work is. Home work is time to do home work, like things that don't have to do with school.
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May 7, 2015 17:17
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The Locator posted:All this common core talk and chat about people's issues with spouses and stuff makes me think that maybe there is an upside to being a loser who never found a wife and had kids. Ok, it's a bit of a lonely upside sometimes, but got to search for that silver lining!
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May 7, 2015 17:35
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InitialDave posted:Being single is loving awesome. Live your life for yourself and enjoy it. Most of the time I do, but once in a while it would be nice to have that 'soul mate' that other people always talk about to share stuff with. Who knows, maybe some day I will, but yea, I don't really get all bummed about being single, and enjoy being able to just do whatever I want to do most of the time.
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May 7, 2015 17:40
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MustardFacial posted:A good friend of mine has been doing too well lately (a lot of big poo poo happened to him all at once), so I went out drinking with him to let him vent and whatnot. I've got a massive hangover today, and I woke up to remember its my anniversary. I was right, today is a rough one. I feel like loving garbage and I still have to change the oil and battery in my sister's Rabbit. The Locator posted:enjoy being able to just do whatever I want to do most of the time. This is what I miss most about being single. going out with friends on a whim to come home and play dota 2 while smashed was a real good time. MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 17:40
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The Locator posted:All this common core talk and chat about people's issues with spouses and stuff makes me think that maybe there is an upside to being a loser who never found a wife and had kids. Ok, it's a bit of a lonely upside sometimes, but got to search for that silver lining!  I married a person who doesn't give a poo poo what I do, lets me enjoy my hobbies and supports everything I do. Its not impossible to be married and feel like you still have the freedom of being single. Most days outside of seeing her around the house and chit-chatting, I can't tell the difference.I didn't want a soul mate. I wanted a friend. And it worked out in the long run. Sure, we have an unorthodox lifestyle, but it works for us.
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May 7, 2015 17:41
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Terrible Robot posted:Quoted for loving truth. I absolutely hated math in school because it was super boring pointless the way they had us working through the same worksheets and tests with no "hey, this can be used to do X", especially algebra and stuff. It wasn't until I went to trade school where he had to apply equations and stuff that I realized just how loving awesome math really is. InitialDave posted:Being single is loving awesome. Live your life for yourself and enjoy it. Uncle is dragging his feet deciding if he's going to let me take the MG or not. Just make a decision so I can start planning the rest of my summer and how I'm going to drain my fun money.
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May 7, 2015 17:43
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CommieGIR posted:
Grats on achieving the dream. I certainly did not meant to insinuate that a person can't be happily married, as I know plenty of people who are. I've just never found that person that I could be happily married to (or that could be happily married to me, which is probably a bigger barrier).
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May 7, 2015 17:43
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The Locator posted:Grats on achieving the dream. I certainly did not meant to insinuate that a person can't be happily married, as I know plenty of people who are. I've just never found that person that I could be happily married to (or that could be happily married to me, which is probably a bigger barrier). Its not easy finding that person. And InitialDave is right: You should make the most of being single. Don't rush it. I've been married almost 9 years now, its never been easy.
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May 7, 2015 17:46
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BraveUlysses posted:lecia, that's nuts that you think kids shouldn't have homework until middle school. I definitely had homework from 1st grade on. leica posted:Do you have kids? It's not nuts to not want my 7 year old in first grade to be all stressed out about homework and the dumbass common core tests. It takes him over an hour each day to do his homework....Again, FIRST GRADE. Lightbulb Out posted:Homework is bullshit. CommieGIR posted:And studies support this. Busy work does not encourage a desire to learn, nor advanced learning. What is missing is a way to get kids to actually WANT to learn, making it interesting over making it rigorous. John Hattie did an absolutely enormous meta-study on achivement in schools (that resulted in, among other things, a book: Visible Learning: A Synthesis of Over 800 Meta-Analyses Relating to Achievement; 2008) and to quote him from his 30 minute interview on BBC4 last year: quote:Homework in primary school has an effect of around zero.
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May 7, 2015 17:46
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1500quidporsche posted:I used to teach piano to get through university and I can tell you your problem isn't with common core its with lovely teachers. Actually, the teachers don't have a choice, common core is mandated and they have no choice. I don't really have time to get into it but it's a huge issue, there are people getting up in arms about it all over the country, the governor here in Florida put a stop to common core testing in the higher grades because so many people are complaining about it. The rabbit hole gets deep if you really want to research and get into it, but my point is the teachers really have no control over it and most of them despise common core.
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May 7, 2015 17:46
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leica posted:Actually, the teachers don't have a choice, common core is mandated and they have no choice. I don't really have time to get into it but it's a huge issue, there are people getting up in arms about it all over the country, the governor here in Florida put a stop to common core testing in the higher grades because so many people are complaining about it. The rabbit hole gets deep if you really want to research and get into it, but my point is the teachers really have no control over it and most of them despise common core. I'm going to highlight the biggest issue with this point. Because Rick Scott is a loving moron. Should Common Core perhaps be more slowly introduced? Yes. But complaining because things are being changed is not a valid reason to block Common Core, nor are Rick Scott's reasons likely valid. He is toeing the party line, not actually worried about the VALID criticisms of Common Core. Rick Scott and his party have done very large damage to the US Education System, between pushing religious ideals in the classroom to cutting Public Education funding and THEN announcing how broken the Education System is, these people are the REASON we have the problems we do in Education. Change is hard. Demanding we not change because it is hard is not a valid reason to not change. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 17:49
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Yeah I'm not saying what he did id right, more just pointing out the fact that common core has people's panties all in a wad, Rick Scott having a knee jerk reaction probably isn't helping I'm sure.
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May 7, 2015 17:51
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leica posted:Actually, the teachers don't have a choice, common core is mandated and they have no choice. I don't really have time to get into it but it's a huge issue, there are people getting up in arms about it all over the country, the governor here in Florida put a stop to common core testing in the higher grades because so many people are complaining about it. The rabbit hole gets deep if you really want to research and get into it, but my point is the teachers really have no control over it and most of them despise common core. Pretty sure you need to replace 'common core' with 'standardized testing' for this statement to be true. Common core is not what you're presenting it as, it's not a firm standard that all textbooks and teachers must adhere to.
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May 7, 2015 17:52
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leica posted:Yeah I'm not saying what he did id right, more just pointing out the fact that common core has people's panties all in a wad, Rick Scott having a knee jerk reaction probably isn't helping I'm sure. Ah, okay. That's fair. I'm sincerely frightened for my son's future. Both Education wise and quality of life wise, because of the poo poo I see happening between the push to defund public ed and the push to place an even more crushing financial burden in order to enter college, and the damage being done to education itself and the failure of people to adapt to the changes we need in education to create a more encouraging learning environment. I mean, for fucks sake, Texas just cut $5 BILLION from Public Education as of today. $5 Billion. These people are the same ones going on and on about the country falling about while they kick out the supports.
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May 7, 2015 17:55
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Some dildo wearing a Monster hat and a lip ring just tried to race me in his Scion TC. My car is not even fast by any means but that was just sad. I live with two middle school teachers who both teach in the ghetto and theor jobs sound loving miserable. Apparently you only get suspended for 1 day for bringing a loving knife to class and threatening a kid with it. I got suspended for 2 weeks in HS just for 1 punch. Super Aggro Crag fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 17:57
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CommieGIR posted:In the South, cutting and damaging Public Ed is being used as a way to kickstart private religious schools and force parents to either apply to a private Christian school or look in vain for a suitable public school. Hey at least Gwinnett county has a sizable tax base and general affluence to support larger schools. We have neither of those in Hall. Well, we have Flowery Branch, which in and of itself is an example of horrific, racist gerrymandering specifically to benefit the Governor's grandson and ugh I just don't even want to talk about this again
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May 7, 2015 17:58
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SuperDucky posted:Hey at least Gwinnett county has a sizable tax base and general affluence to support larger schools. We have neither of those in Hall. Well, we have Flowery Branch, which in and of itself is an example of horrific, racist gerrymandering specifically to benefit the Governor's grandson and ugh I just don't even want to talk about this again True, Gwinnett is not the worst off, but they are sure trying to catch up.
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May 7, 2015 18:03
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Some dildo wearing a Monster hat and a lip ring just tried to race me in his Scion TC. My car is not even fast by any means but that was just sad.  Last week I went taking pictures and was making a right onto a street. I let an infinity go by and pulled out after him. Im following for a few seconds and he hits his brakes so I move over to pass and then he started pacing me not letting me by. Its some kid with a backwards hat. I had to slam on my brakes to get behind him so that I could make a right hand turn. Then he follows me half a mile down to the thruway and sped off into the distance.
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May 7, 2015 18:05
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BraveUlysses posted:Pretty sure you need to replace 'common core' with 'standardized testing' for this statement to be true. Common core is not what you're presenting it as, it's not a firm standard that all textbooks and teachers must adhere to. On the surface it may not look that way, but again, do you have any kids in school? It sure as hell seems like a firm standard to me from what I've seen, but what do I know.
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May 7, 2015 18:05
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leica posted:On the surface it may not look that way, but again, do you have any kids in school? I do have a kid but far too young to be in school, but that has no bearing on your misunderstanding of what common core is.
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May 7, 2015 18:11
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some texas redneck posted:Bad decisions Dude, it's really hard to watch you do this poo poo to yourself over and over and over. You're living paycheck to paycheck on a pizza delivery job and trying to get off the booze before it kills you, but you drove 70 miles to a concert, got drunk, just had to have that $40 t-shirt, just had to have that last shot, tried to drive home drunk, hosed up your car to the tune of at least a couple hundred bucks by hitting a loving concrete barrier while drunk driving and then driving around on the donut's rim. Not only that, but now you're going to miss out on a day's pay which you can ill afford when you have to buy a new tire. We all want you to stick around, man  leica posted:On the surface it may not look that way, but again, do you have any kids in school? Seems to me like everybody has spent 20 years asking why all these other countries do so well at math and science, oh why can't little Timmy add and subtract... then we get guidelines in place that say controversial things like "Children should be able to add and subtract within 1000" and suddenly everyone loses their poo poo.
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May 7, 2015 18:12
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CommieGIR posted:Its not easy finding that person. And InitialDave is right: You should make the most of being single. Don't rush it. I've been married almost 9 years now, its never been easy. I'll be 50 this summer. I think it's safe to say that I'm not rushing it. 
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May 7, 2015 18:13
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BraveUlysses posted:I do have a kid but far too young to be in school, but that has no bearing on your misunderstanding of what common core is. Whatever dude, I'm just speaking from my experience with what my son is going through and from what the teachers have told us, but if you feel the need to enlighten me on what common core really is trying to accomplish (and why it's failing at it) I'm all ears. Good luck when it's time for your kid to go to school, unless you avoid the whole thing by going the private route, which a lot of people are doing.
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May 7, 2015 18:19
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Honestly I can't see a good reason to get married anymore. None of my previous girlfriends were so great that I would want to marry them. Sign of the times or am I just weird? I'm sure my circumstances and outlook will change, but it's always made zero sense in my head. Edit: Also possible that all my relationships have just been lovely ones. The longest ones were for three years each. One was a super good looking but also super crazy evangelical daughter of a Southern Baptist preacher. The other one was a tomboy that had less emotion than me (that's saying something...) Adiabatic fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 18:21
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Adiabatic posted:Honestly I can't see a good reason to get married anymore. None of my previous girlfriends were so great that I would want to marry them. I've come to about the same conclusion. Very very little interest in getting married and no interest at all in having kids. Marriage, well the second income and tax breaks would be pretty sweet. My parents laugh and say someday I'll change my mind, maybe they're right but so far it's a big nope.
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May 7, 2015 18:26
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Another thing that I found crazy was that my math teacher roomie said that 12 year old kids can't do basic addition and subtration until he puts a dollar sign in front of all the numbers. Then they can magically do it.  We have 4 high schools with 1,500+ kids in each in our city and the vocational school is the best one. It has a waiting list and everything. I wish I thought to go there. Super Aggro Crag fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 18:30
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Another thing that I found crazy was that my nath teacher roomie said that 12 year old kids can't do basic addition and subtration until he puts a dollar sign in front of all the numbersm then they can magically do it. So it's like you and poor people, only with puddles.
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May 7, 2015 18:31
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May 7, 2015 18:35
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Super Aggro Crag posted:nath teacher Super Aggro Crag posted:addition and subtration Super Aggro Crag posted:all the numbersm Day drinking or what? 
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May 7, 2015 18:36
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Nah I just suck at typing on my cellphone. I have fat man sausage fingers. Have a doctor appointnent today so I left work at noon. I got to splice a couple hundred pairs by myself for the first time today tho which was cool.
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May 7, 2015 18:39
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SuperDucky posted:Hey at least Gwinnett county has a sizable tax base and general affluence to support larger schools. We have neither of those in Hall. Well, we have Flowery Branch, which in and of itself is an example of horrific, racist gerrymandering specifically to benefit the Governor's grandson and ugh I just don't even want to talk about this again CommieGIR posted:True, Gwinnett is not the worst off, but they are sure trying to catch up. Oh god both you guys are stuck in the Gwinnett/Hall suburbs?
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May 7, 2015 18:44
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Coredump posted:Oh god both you guys are stuck in the Gwinnett/Hall suburbs? I think Superducky is North Atlanta. I'm in Gwinnett.
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May 7, 2015 18:55
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CommieGIR posted:I think Superducky is North Atlanta. I'm in Gwinnett. Coredump posted:Oh god both you guys are stuck in the Gwinnett/Hall suburbs? I lived in Buckhead and Decatur for a few years during undergrad at State. Originally from Flowery Branch, and right back here, now. I start a new job in Gainesville on the 1st (oh yeah, forgot to tell you guys about that, hell yes!!!) and as much as I love it and would want to have a reverse commute it just doesn't make sense to live in the city and commute an hour and half again. Maybe in a few years I can find a job ITP and move back. Being literally 4 minutes from the sailing club is nice, though.
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May 7, 2015 19:00
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Adiabatic posted:Honestly I can't see a good reason to get married anymore. None of my previous girlfriends were so great that I would want to marry them. I swore up and down I'd never get married, like never ever and that it was just a silly idea. After 6 months of dating, my girl and I bailed on our hometown and moved across the country with barely any money and a $1500 jetta that got repoed 3 months later. Somehow we made it through all the poo poo that followed and 6 years later we got married. It just kind of happened.
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May 7, 2015 19:01
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SuperDucky posted:I lived in Buckhead and Decatur for a few years during undergrad at State. Originally from Flowery Branch, and right back here, now. I start a new job in Gainesville on the 1st (oh yeah, forgot to tell you guys about that, hell yes!!!) and as much as I love it and would want to have a reverse commute it just doesn't make sense to live in the city and commute an hour and half again. Maybe in a few years I can find a job ITP and move back. Being literally 4 minutes from the sailing club is nice, though. Congrats on the job. Still going to Wurthersee?
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