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Narcissus1916 posted:This week's episode would be a perfect time to delve into how hosed up democratic elections (or the press) are these days. Yeah it's already out https://soundcloud.com/the-bugle/bugle-292-a-career-defining-election
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Narcissus1916 posted:This week's episode would be a perfect time to delve into how hosed up democratic elections (or the press) are these days. Why? Yes I'm aware that it was a major conservative victory and the UK may withdraw from the EU and that the SNP sweep could lead to Scotland then leaving the UK and joining the EU but who cares and why should we? Also is there a more obvious topic than how hosed up democratic elections, the press being garbage, and campaign finance are?
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Any one of those would be better than exposing the evils of... tobacco, lone sharks, and the fashion industry.
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May 9, 2015 01:22
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Narcissus1916 posted:lone sharks Yeah if he cared about public safety he would have done a show about packs of sharks instead.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Any one of those would be better than exposing the evils of... tobacco, lone sharks, and the fashion industry. I'd love to hear the premise for a segment about elections that doesn't come off as sour grapes. "Elections are evil because... the wrong parties win!" "People are tricked into voting for the candidates whose policies... they agree with!" "When people are unhappy with the economy, inner city violence and racial tensions flamed by the party in power, they stupidly... vote for change."
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May 9, 2015 01:45
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Irish Joe posted:I'd love to hear the premise for a segment about elections that doesn't come off as sour grapes. It's pretty easy to talk about the problems with elections without politics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mky11UJb9AY
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May 9, 2015 01:48
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CGP Grey is good.
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GutBomb posted:Yeah if he cared about public safety he would have done a show about packs of sharks instead. 
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May 9, 2015 03:02
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Irish Joe posted:I'd love to hear the premise for a segment about elections that doesn't come off as sour grapes. For starters there's the fact that one party can get 2.5 million votes and 8 seats while another party can get 3.8 million votes and 1 seat, or one party can get 1.2 million votes and get 1 seat while 1 party can get 1.5 million votes and get 56 seats.
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May 9, 2015 05:39
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Rarity posted:For starters there's the fact that one party can get 2.5 million votes and 8 seats while another party can get 3.8 million votes and 1 seat, or one party can get 1.2 million votes and get 1 seat while 1 party can get 1.5 million votes and get 56 seats. I will not have you besmirch the time-honored tradition of gerrymandering and general election fuckery. It's not our fault that everyone is running the old versions of democracy while only Germany and Japan seem to have gotten the most recent system updates.
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ApexAftermath posted:EDIT: Never mind. Wrong thread. In case you're still lost: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3380930
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:In case you're still lost: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3380930 Somehow the thread decided to unbookmark itself for me and I thought it had been deleted. Weird.
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May 9, 2015 06:57
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axeil posted:I will not have you besmirch the time-honored tradition of gerrymandering and general election fuckery. It's not our fault that everyone is running the old versions of democracy while only Germany and Japan seem to have gotten the most recent system updates. Germany's election system is dog poo poo retarded too. "Oh we recognise the issues with single-seat constituencies so we made half the seats proportional, problem solved"  It's a tad more complicated than that (especially in regards to the distribution of seats) but isn't exactly a shining beacon.
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May 9, 2015 07:13
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Two houses, lower house representational districts with preferential (instant-runoff) voting, upper house proportional voting.
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MikeJF posted:Two houses, lower house representational districts with preferential (instant-runoff) voting, upper house proportional voting. American supremacy affirmed.
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Irish Joe posted:American supremacy affirmed. I... huh?
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May 9, 2015 11:33
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MikeJF posted:I... huh? It's. Irish. Joe. Seriously man. He wasn't even TRYING there.
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Xoidanor posted:Germany's election system is dog poo poo retarded too. "Oh we recognise the issues with single-seat constituencies so we made half the seats proportional, problem solved" MMP owns actually, and leads to parliaments that are totally proportionate to the party vote.
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Xoidanor posted:Germany's election system is dog poo poo retarded too. "Oh we recognise the issues with single-seat constituencies so we made half the seats proportional, problem solved" I don't know if you're German but I am and that's not how our system works. If you are German, please inform yourself about the meaning of Erst- and Zweitstimme before the next election, ta
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Exclamation Marx posted:MMP owns actually, and leads to parliaments that are totally proportionate to the party vote. So does party list proportional representation and you don't have to deal with districts.
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Katana Gomai posted:I don't know if you're German but I am and that's not how our system works. If you are German, please inform yourself about the meaning of Erst- and Zweitstimme before the next election, ta Was I not clear on that I'm aware that there is more to it than that?  If I'd levy a critique against the german system it is that its ungodly complicated in the ways it bends over to compensate for the negative effects of single-seat constiuencies, to the level where one might wonder if it hadn't been simpler to forgo them altogether. As for its results, yeah its as fine as any other proportional system. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 14:17 on May 10, 2015 |
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May 10, 2015 14:12
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Burkion posted:It's. Irish. Joe. Normally he's at least understandable, even if he's totally wrong. There he just confused me.
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Orange Devil posted:So does party list proportional representation and you don't have to deal with districts. Local representatives do important work for their constituents tho
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May 10, 2015 16:27
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Holy poo poo we need every agency to have a mascot RIGHT loving NOW
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May 11, 2015 04:34
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I've seen gifs of that mascot running through explosions but what's the story behind that?
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May 11, 2015 04:37
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I laughed so hard at that mascot minefield clip, I started weeping and now my whole face hurts. That was just too amazing and I, too, need a frame of reference for it.
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axeil posted:Holy poo poo we need every agency to have a mascot RIGHT loving NOW they sort of already do this concept in japan.
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May 11, 2015 06:48
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really? oliver should do a bit on japanese mascots that would be great
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May 11, 2015 10:02
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SgtSteel91 posted:I've seen gifs of that mascot running through explosions but what's the story behind that? I'm sure no one will be surprised that the answer is "Japanese TV gameshow" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WDDOk_GECc
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May 11, 2015 11:53
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Who are we supposed to be angry at this week?
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May 11, 2015 11:59
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Man, US labour laws are really lovely. I mean, I kind of already knew that but it's nice to get a reminder every now and then.
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May 11, 2015 12:03
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Irish Joe posted:Who are we supposed to be angry at this week? Republicans.
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May 11, 2015 12:20
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That "gently caress the mothers" policy you guys have in the US is really, really pissing me off. And I don't even have to live there. For comparison, here is how the matter is handled in my country, one of the poorest countries in Europe which was part of Soviet Union a bit more than two decades ago. 1. 18 months paid maternity leave. 2. "Mother's salary", which means you continue to get the same salary as when you were working, paid by the government. 3. If you were not working previously, you get the minimum salary. Actually it's "parental leave", because fathers can take it too, if they wish (one parent at a time, though).
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May 11, 2015 14:09
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OhYeah posted:Actually it's "parental leave", because fathers can take it too, if they wish (one parent at a time, though). Only one parent at a time? I'm sorry you're forced to live in such a backwards shithole.
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May 11, 2015 14:17
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OhYeah posted:That "gently caress the mothers" policy Actually it's gently caress anyone who isn't rich. I mean really get it right.
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May 11, 2015 14:39
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tbh those mothers should be glad they get to go back to work asap so they can work off the $10,000+ medical bills they were sent home with.
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IRQ posted:Actually it's gently caress anyone who isn't rich. I mean really get it right. I went to the show's facebook page and read the comments. Now I wish I hadn't. So many people yelling stuff like "WHY SHOULD I WORK TWICE AS MUCH SO THAT SOME oval office MOTHER CAN TAKE TIME OFF???". Uhm, because her baby 1. Is your future employee, or 2. The future customer of the product of service you are providing, and 3. A future taxpayer that makes sure you still get to use public services in your old age. How come there are so many people in this otherwise great country that can't see 2 inches past their own nose?
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OhYeah posted:I went to the show's facebook page and read the comments. Now I wish I hadn't. So many people yelling stuff like "WHY SHOULD I WORK TWICE AS MUCH SO THAT SOME oval office MOTHER CAN TAKE TIME OFF???". This is actually somewhat understandable when you consider how little time off we get in this shithole of a country. If we had reasonable workdays and time off you probably wouldn't see that position expressed so often, but this is ARE CUNTRY so a horrible injury or illness getting you out of work is practically a vacation.
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I don't know how Steve Scully can do his job without a bar under the desk.OhYeah posted:How come there are so many people in this otherwise great country that can't see 2 inches past their own nose? 
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