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Gammatron 64 posted:Of course, if they have "100% genome accuracy" now, then Velociraptors should be half the size and have feathers, but I'm splitting hairs, I guess. Or feathers. Raptors are jaegers driven by compys.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Raptors are jaegers driven by compys. Awesome.
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feedmyleg posted:Haha Wu is Jony Ive. Sounds about right. Kinda weird how when it lunges, it lands with its hands and stretched to reach them. Thinking it over it seems much more "movie monster" than "animal" and I guess that's why it is bugging me
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May 15, 2015 19:54
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Gammatron 64 posted:That's a great ad. The back story on the raptors is that Wu is still playing around with them more than other species, hence why the individuals have different eyes, coloration, build and apparently motions from each other. Like the one with the verticals pupil eyes is supposed to be part gecko, the one with the blue stripe from some sort of African lizard with glossy scales, one of them will be more twitchy and less robust because it is the most bird-like, etc.
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May 15, 2015 19:58
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Fried Chicken posted:The back story on the raptors is that Wu is still playing around with them more than other species, hence why the individuals have different eyes, coloration, build and apparently motions from each other. Like the one with the verticals pupil eyes is supposed to be part gecko, the one with the blue stripe from some sort of African lizard with glossy scales, one of them will be more twitchy and less robust because it is the most bird-like, etc. Really? That's interesting. Honestly, in Jurassic Park, you can handwave away any inaccuracies as genetic fuckery. Dilophosaursus didn't have a frill or spit venom? Frilled lizard and cobra DNA.
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May 15, 2015 20:24
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Gammatron 64 posted:Honestly, in Jurassic Park, you can handwave away any inaccuracies as genetic fuckery. Dilophosaursus didn't have a frill or spit venom? Frilled lizard and cobra DNA. In the novel and original film, the idea was also that they were learning new things when the dinos hatched - the frill never made it in to the fossil record, since it's soft tissue. The spitting venom is an unpleasant surprise. The DNA mixing contributes to this too, but at least some of the unexpected behaviors/morphology was "real" and different from what they expected based on fossils, and theories based on fossils. Which is believable, cool, and gives some narrative freedom.
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Prolonged Priapism posted:In the novel and original film, the idea was also that they were learning new things when the dinos hatched - the frill never made it in to the fossil record, since it's soft tissue. The spitting venom is an unpleasant surprise. The DNA mixing contributes to this too, but at least some of the unexpected behaviors/morphology was "real" and different from what they expected based on fossils, and theories based on fossils. Which is believable, cool, and gives some narrative freedom. Yeah I always thought that bit was neat. Fossils only tell you so much. I saw the preserved Dilo in Connecticut at Dinosaur State Park once though when I was ten. Those fuckers are huge
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Yeah, the Dilophosaurus in the movie was basically the size Velociraptors were in real life. The size-changing of the Dilophosaurs and Velociraptors bothered me as a kid since I was a big dinosaur nerd and they were two of my favorite dinos before I had even heard of the movie. The original film is so goddamn good though that it really doesn't matter to me anymore.
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May 16, 2015 05:39
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Pablo Gigante posted:Yeah, the Dilophosaurus in the movie was basically the size Velociraptors were in real life. The size-changing of the Dilophosaurs and Velociraptors bothered me as a kid since I was a big dinosaur nerd and they were two of my favorite dinos before I had even heard of the movie. The original film is so goddamn good though that it really doesn't matter to me anymore. The Dilophosaurus in the film is a young one, Nedry even reacts with relief that it isn't one of his 'bigger brothers.' In Jurassic World, if the Lego toys are accurate, they have adult ones.
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May 16, 2015 07:55
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PriorMarcus posted:The Dilophosaurus in the film is a young one, Nedry even reacts with relief that it isn't one of his 'bigger brothers.' I always took him to mean "oh thank gently caress you're not one of the other bigger dinosaurs, you're not so bad".
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ApexAftermath posted:I always took him to mean "oh thank gently caress you're not one of the other bigger dinosaurs, you're not so bad". That's how I took it too, but it works either way. I hope Gwangi is in this.
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Fried Chicken posted:It's released as TV promo 8, and the I Rex chasing the kids is new. I'm gonna spoiler this just because it's rampant speculation but I'll eat my hat if it doesn't turn out the I-Rex was made with a heavy dose of people DNA. The whole giving orders, 'HIGHLY INTELLIGENT ANIMAL' schtick seems to be telegraphing that pretty blatantly to me. The I-Rex being white and Bryce Dallas Howard's character being dressed in all white consistently also make me think there's something to it. Gonna be so wacky. Personally I think this is a dumb idea but I'm not 100% sure so whatever. This movie definitely strikes me as more 'movie monster' than 'ancient animals brought back to life' like the first film.
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May 16, 2015 10:59
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Pablo Gigante posted:Yeah, the Dilophosaurus in the movie was basically the size Velociraptors were in real life. The size-changing of the Dilophosaurs and Velociraptors bothered me as a kid since I was a big dinosaur nerd and they were two of my favorite dinos before I had even heard of the movie. The original film is so goddamn good though that it really doesn't matter to me anymore. Actual science ruined velociraptors far more than Jurassic Park could ever hope to do.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Actual science ruined velociraptors far more than Jurassic Park could ever hope to do. I could buy this as a selling point for Ingen. "Dinosaurs, the way you knew they were as a kid before paleontologists ruined them!" Cue Grant sobbing and drinking whiskey in a corner somewhere.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Actual science ruined velociraptors far more than Jurassic Park could ever hope to do.
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redcheval posted:I'm gonna spoiler this just because it's rampant speculation but I'll eat my hat if it doesn't turn out the I-Rex was made with a heavy dose of people DNA. The whole giving orders, 'HIGHLY INTELLIGENT ANIMAL' schtick seems to be telegraphing that pretty blatantly to me. The I-Rex being white and Bryce Dallas Howard's character being dressed in all white consistently also make me think there's something to it. Gonna be so wacky. Personally I think this is a dumb idea but I'm not 100% sure so whatever. This movie definitely strikes me as more 'movie monster' than 'ancient animals brought back to life' like the first film. It even has opposable thumbs and one of the leaked plot descriptions describes the I-Rex and Bryce Dallas Howard's character as having an unlikely and mysterious bond. It's why it doesn't kill her outright several times.
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Ah it's the Alien 4 idea. That'd be cool.
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They kinda covered that in the original film but I guess this movie is taking "children must consume their parents" literally.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVycmrn8Wo I feel more distressed seeing them attack the baby triceratops than I do people
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Hey, they finally got in the 'Lex rides a baby trike' idea from the novel.
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Devol_Tettran posted:Hey, they finally got in the 'Lex rides a baby trike' idea from the novel. I want to go to a dinosaur petting zoo so bad now. 
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Xenomrph posted:In one of the other TV spots (can't remember which one) there's a brief shot of a kid hugging a baby brachiosaur or some other long-necked dinosaur, and it has the silliest "OH GOD WHAT IS GOING ON" look on its face and I loved it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7UgJpRWMY
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Xenomrph posted:In one of the other TV spots (can't remember which one) there's a brief shot of a kid hugging a baby brachiosaur or some other long-necked dinosaur, and it has the silliest "OH GOD WHAT IS GOING ON" look on its face and I loved it. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HUGS ARE 
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Pablo Gigante posted:Nah feathered raptors are dope too They are not "dope" or "cool" or "awesome". They look stupid as poo poo. I also love the thirty pound pterosaurs lifting baby dinosaurs 10 times their weight. This movie looks incredibly bad.
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achillesforever6 posted:Wait a minute why are there Compys in the Petting Zoo? I think they might be baby Gallimimus, or something similar. Their legs and feet are too oversized to be fully grown. Groovelord Neato posted:wrong, bad opinions. Nah, gently caress you. 
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May 16, 2015 20:52
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You quoted my correct facts, called them bad, then posted a pic showing that I was right. This is some bizarre poo poo. Yeah dude the claws look really scary when they're just stupid wings. Reptilian things are always cooler/scarier looking than feathered things. It's why monsters are scaly or slimy or reptilian or insectoid.
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Groovelord Neato posted:They are not "dope" or "cool" or "awesome". They look stupid as poo poo. quote:I also love the thirty pound pterosaurs lifting baby dinosaurs 10 times their weight. This movie looks incredibly bad.
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achillesforever6 posted:Wait a minute why are there Compys in the Petting Zoo? Honestly, Compsognathus is probably one of the least dangerous theropods to keep around. In a group they would probably be dangerous. But, as for the intelligence of having them in the petting zoo, the website also lists spinosauroids in the river kayak ride so I wouldn't be surprised if they let the compys in the petting zoo.
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May 16, 2015 20:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:I also love the thirty pound pterosaurs lifting baby dinosaurs 10 times their weight. This movie looks incredibly bad. thank you for confirming a pterosaurs wouldn't be able to lift you either
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May 16, 2015 20:58
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I like feathered dinos and am secure enough in my masculinity to accept that.
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Groovelord Neato posted:You quoted my correct facts, called them bad, then posted a pic showing that I was right. This is some bizarre poo poo. That's not actually why we traditionally have reptilian or insectoid monsters. Before CGI became the easy button out of making a monster, you were limited with practical effects. And making a creature that looked convincing with a thick hide, like a rhino, or actual scales, like a reptile or a fish, was infinitely easier than one with fur or feathers. Feathers in particular are really hard to make look good on a suit or animatronic. Without going full on muppet anyways. Insects are the easiest thing in the world, by the by, due to how weird their xeoskeletons are.
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May 16, 2015 21:00
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I get the feeling I'm going to like all the dopey dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets theme park stuff more than anything else in the movie.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I get the feeling I'm going to like all the dopey dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets theme park stuff more than anything else in the movie.
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achillesforever6 posted:Me too because I've had 3 movies where dinosaurs kill people and one park fails before it can open. It's the one aspect of this movie I really like sight unseen, where it's a fully functional park but it's also this cheesy, trashy thing like taking social media pictures at Machu Picchu.
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I don't get why people get so mad about dinosaurs having feathers or pluto being a planet. They really did have them, after all. Granted, a real life Velociraptor is more like the prehistoric equivalent to a leopard than some super predator, but his bigger cousins like Deinonychus or Utahraptor are pretty drat big and terrifying. Even then, a real life Velociraptor could seriously gently caress you up or kill you even though it isn't very big. Bobcats, leopards and wolves aren't very big.
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Groovelord Neato posted:You quoted my correct facts, called them bad, then posted a pic showing that I was right. This is some bizarre poo poo. Which part was a fact and not just your opinion? By all means, you are entitled to your opinion that you don't like the look of feathered dinosaurs, or that you would rather have scaly scary creatures in the monster movie. I think the reason a lot of people get so uptight over the feather thing is because there are no documentaries made anymore that can portray the science in a digestible format for general audiences, which leaves only mass media like these movies to provide general audiences with any idea of our understanding of these creatures. So I can see both sides of the coin on that one. At the end of the day, it is just a popcorn flick of a summer movie so the appearance doesn't make that much of a difference. Frankly, I appreciate the boost in interest that these kind of things can provide for paleontology. At the same time, it gets a bit old when people expect, and actually get a bit upset, that we aren't just cloning these things "like in Jurassic Park". You would be surprised how often you wind up hearing "they could do it in that, why can't you actually do it already?" or "[insert animal here] did 'x' in the movie, so they had to have been able to do that." I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, but, as someone who studies this stuff, I honestly don't understand why people get so upset when we learn something new about these animals.
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Because it breaks people brains when things aren't exactly the way they think they should be, and they have to tell eeeeverybody about it. I found the idea of feathered dinosaurs stupid at first, but then I got over it. I moved past it, and healed.
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I love that the scientific understanding of dinosaurs has continued to... evolve.
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