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ThermoPhysical posted:My favorite episode has gotta be The Internet. The exchange between the elderly floppy disk guy and Darwin and Gumball is one of my favorites. "You're from the future?" "No, the 1980s." "There was a 19?" Re: fandoms, I avoid or only lightly interact with the fandoms of most of the media I like, because a little spergin' about a show, movie, or book goes a looooooong way. I want to continue to discover and enjoy enjoyable things, without that experience being tainted or influenced by my feelings towards some overzealous 12-year-olds or 30-year-old shut-ins. You can't always judge a book by its fans (especially the most vocal ones). Tartarus Sauce fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 23, 2015 |
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Klaus88 posted:Whats this Stephen Universe thing that's overtaking the forums? I tired the actual show thread but its a bit It's a more or less standard Cartoon Network children's/family sitcom like Clarence or Gumball with good progressive female characters but like 10% of the time it turns into its alter ego which is yuri/lesbian Dragonball Z fanfiction icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 15:58 on May 25, 2015 |
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so I decided to ask here instead.
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icantfindaname posted:like 10% of the time it turns into its alter ego which is yuri/lesbian Dragonball Z fanfiction I wish this could be the SU thread's title. VVV: You're bad then! 
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May 25, 2015 19:47
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icantfindaname posted:It's a more or less standard Cartoon Network children's/family sitcom like Clarence or Gumball with good progressive female characters but like 10% of the time it turns into its alter ego which is yuri/lesbian Dragonball Z fanfiction so, it's bad then
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May 25, 2015 20:23
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What about that doesn't sound amazing
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Toxxupation posted:so, it's bad then Sorry bout your bad opinions bro.
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MrAristocrates posted:What about that doesn't sound amazing "ooh it has lesbians!!!" sounds to me like a bunch of goons jerking themselves off over how progressive and enlightened they are over a kid's show as opposed to realizing that lesbians exist literally everywhere and it's weird and creepy to treat people's sexuality like some liberal version of Pokemon aka the adventure time defense
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Representation in media is important to any group because ti establishes normalcy and also lets people that might feel their alone have some sign that they aren't . It's easy to say "lesbians are literally everywhere" but that's not actually true and it's still something that, for the most part, is pretty much banned from children's television for being inappropriate which is one of those things that must send a great message to any kid growing up realizing that they might be part of that group. The lesbian aspect of SU isn't major and it's not dwelled upon nor is it presented in a way that demands a pat on the back. It's just sort of there like it's normal, which is just really nice to see. Clarence has the same thing and it's nice there to.
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May 25, 2015 20:52
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Honestly people are overselling the whole lesbians thing
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May 25, 2015 20:54
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Toxx you are hosed up my dude
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Just giving everyone a heads up that the Phineas & Ferb finale leaked.
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MrAristocrates posted:Honestly people are overselling the whole lesbians thing Well, yeah. I think in the shows 50+ episodes is comes up in two of them (slightly more if you read Pearl's feeling towards Rose as something more)
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the point you are mistaking, probably intentionally, is that goons sure do love to bring up and talk about lesbian characters esp in fiction under the auspices of "progressiveness" when really what they're doing is 1) fueling a fetish that 2) gives them the moral high ground to make posts about how it's all about the grander representation in media when they couldn't really give less of a poo poo because boy do they love posting about lesbians!!! again, adventure time reducing a character to their token sexuality is 1) creepy 2) completely missing the overall aims of representation of different sexualities in media and fetishizing only one aspect of a character 3) probably indicative that the character themselves is nothing to write home about outside of some gimmick like their sexuality being not heteronormative if you were to take the posts in AT or the SU threads and replace the word "lesbian" with the word "black" it'd put a finer point on how the "progressive" tack is really just a way for goons to cloak their obsession with lesbians
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I skimmed that but you are a sad lame man if you think Black DBZ Fanfiction sounds like a bad thing.
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frank.club posted:Toxx you are hosed up my dude it's hard bein right all the time... 
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Toxxupation posted:the point you are mistaking, probably intentionally, is that goons sure do love to bring up and talk about lesbian characters esp in fiction under the auspices of "progressiveness" when really what they're doing is 1) fueling a fetish that 2) gives them the moral high ground to make posts about how it's all about the grander representation in media when they couldn't really give less of a poo poo because boy do they love posting about lesbians!!! again, adventure time That's an awful lot of words to say "I'm not actually going to watch this but let me poo poo on your opinions of it"
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mycot posted:I skimmed that but you are a sad lame man if you think Black DBZ Fanfiction sounds like a bad thing. 
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Toxxupation posted:it's hard bein right all the time... namaste
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Sorry I live in the year 2015 where people are more than the people they like to gently caress!!! maybe you should come over, it's nice to see people as people over a collection of archetypes and fetishesTwoPair posted:That's an awful lot of words to say "I'm not actually going to watch this but let me poo poo on your opinions of it"
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TwoPair posted:That's an awful lot of words to say "I'm not actually going to watch this but let me poo poo on your opinions of it" Occupation.txt
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Toxxupation posted:Sorry I live in the year 2015 where people are more than the people they like to gently caress!!! maybe you should come over, it's nice to see people as people over a collection of archetypes and fetishes Toxxupation posted:that's actually a fair point, it's probably why I was ok with the Pacifica plotline on the whole even though it was executionally pretty shaky, I've literally forgotten they already did an episode showing how she's a decent human being E: actually wait you're pretty cool
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Toxxupation posted:the point you are mistaking, probably intentionally, is that goons sure do love to bring up and talk about lesbian characters esp in fiction under the auspices of "progressiveness" when really what they're doing is 1) fueling a fetish that 2) gives them the moral high ground to make posts about how it's all about the grander representation in media when they couldn't really give less of a poo poo because boy do they love posting about lesbians!!! again, adventure time While I do agree that people do make too much of the whole thing, I don't think most are just talking about the characters in terms of the sexuality and that's it. That aspect of SU was only revealed recently and all of the characters were an awesome and overall likable bunch. That whole lesbian thing is minor but it is there but it's also easy to enjoy the show without it. By the way, I can't speak for everyone but I do actually give a poo poo about representation. I've talked to and read accounts by far too many LBGT people that were desperate to find anyone like them in the media and I am genuinely happy that seems to finally be happening. Entire ways of looking at films exist just to find that aspect where it probably wasn't actually there so I do find it nice for it to actually be there. It's not about lesbians it's just that things like this tend to have an easier time slipping lesbians past the network. I dunno, it's not like I tend to bring this up on my own. I tend to just respond when people freak the gently caress out about it even being talked about. I mean, yes there are other aspects to talk about and those aspects do get talked about alot. Hell, in something like the AT thread, most of the discussion seemed to more resolve around people trying to deny that this was a thing rather than any actual fetishizing or lingering over the thing. It's just there's still this idea that a heterosexual relationship in a show is normal and fine and anything else is people trying to get their rocks off and I do find that perception genuinely annoying.
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axleblaze posted:While I do agree that people do make too much of the whole thing, I don't think most are just talking about the characters in terms of the sexuality and that's it. That aspect of SU was only revealed recently and all of the characters were an awesome and overall likable bunch. That whole lesbian thing is minor but it is there but it's also easy to enjoy the show without it. you know what this is maybe the first post i've read that doesn't come off as haughty entitled "i'm more enlightened than you" defense of the fact they post about lesbians all the goddamn time, so I'll cede the point
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Clarence has lesbians.
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Gaunab posted:Clarence has lesbians. They were pretty cool.
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frank.club posted:we're losing him I am not sure we ever had him in the first place. e: no wait, we regained him, false alarm.
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Personally, the only thing that really bugs me about Steven Universe are the sort of sexual connotations that the gems fusing has. Not just because it's a bit risque for a kids' show, but because Steven is 12 and that has some...implications.
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the only change I would make to DBZ is have vegeta rock the 'badman' shirt forever.
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axleblaze posted:Avoiding a show because of the fandom always seems really dumb to me. It's really easy to just watch the show and ignore the fandom. If you don't like show, it doesn't look appealing to you or you just don't want to take the time to get into it that's reasonable but don't let the only reason you're avoiding be that some people are weird about it, Normally yes, unless you have a show in which the creators are very much in touch with the fanbase, in which case the fans would leave a more often than not a negative impact on the show. Case in point: Legend of Korra.
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horriblePencilist posted:Normally yes, unless you have a show in which the creators are very much in touch with the fanbase, in which case the fans would leave a more often than not a negative impact on the show. Case in point: Legend of Korra. Just for clarification what are the negative impacts that the fan base had on Korra?
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deadicons posted:Just for clarification what are the negative impacts that the fan base had on Korra? its creation, for one
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Yeah Korra was bad from the start
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May 26, 2015 22:45
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Also every single Spiderhyphenman post which is a crime on the level of a lesser genocide korra is responsible for so many atrocities
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Counterpoint: Korra is good 
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Mission Hill happened over 15 years ago, guys. And we didn't have to fish any crypto-lesbian overtones out of that one, either.SlothfulCobra posted:Personally, the only thing that really bugs me about Steven Universe are the sort of sexual connotations that the gems fusing has. A boy on the cusp of manhood can't spend all day whackering. raditts fucked around with this message at 23:15 on May 26, 2015 |
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raditts posted:A boy on the cusp of manhood can't spend all day whackering. JFC just let DikeKike write and storyboard an episode already. I don't care what show it is, just any.
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MrAristocrates posted:Counterpoint: Korra is good
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