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DeceasedHorse posted:What's the installation process like with a hybrid (water?) cooler like? I've heard some horror stories from friends about dealing with water blocks, although I think those may have been custom jobs rather than something that came with the card. Typically a few screws and the rad side is as easy as installing a 120mm fan. Gwaihir posted:Water coolers are great on GPUs in general, even if they're not significantly quieter than stuff like MSI's custom cooler, they do really well in performance. Something about GPU dies being so much larger than CPUs maybe? I think 20+ degrees cooler than comparable air is pretty standard. You are also doing direct die cooling vs a heatspreader. Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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Oh yea, that's the big difference, haha. Durr.
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DeceasedHorse posted:What's the installation process like with a hybrid (water?) cooler like? I've heard some horror stories from friends about dealing with water blocks, although I think those may have been custom jobs rather than something that came with the card. It's like a CPU AIO except pre-mounted. Remove from box, insert GPU tab A into PCI-E slot B, screw radiator onto free 120mm mount (preferably exhaust rather than intake). Plug in power cables and you're done. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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Jun 1, 2015 22:27
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DeceasedHorse posted:What's the installation process like with a hybrid (water?) cooler like? I've heard some horror stories from friends about dealing with water blocks, although I think those may have been custom jobs rather than something that came with the card. Really the only horror stories that come from custom watercooling are when you get too drunk and forget to remove the 8pin from your motherboard before doing a leaktest.
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veedubfreak posted:Really the only horror stories that come from custom watercooling are when you get too drunk and forget to remove the 8pin from your motherboard before doing a leaktest. Well, I wouldn't necessarily rule out the involvement of alcohol regarding my friend's experiences
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487139 In stock for now.
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Welp, did a thing. Thanks! Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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Jun 1, 2015 23:30
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Hamburger Test posted:According to Techpowerup not great this time around. Which is why I'll be waiting for a custom, unless the webshop I mentioned earlier honors the 30% pricing error. oh  like the intel tim thing im guessing. What was it?
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Welp, did a thing. I didn't want to be the only dumb early adopter.
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That reminds me, I really need to put that SC bios on my Titan X.
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Dont worry its not like prices really drop except way towards the end and even then its not by much.
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Gwaihir posted:Oh yea, that's the big difference, haha. Durr. Somebody strap a Noctua NH-D15 on their 980 Ti somehow and report back. Highdea: For a long time I've been wanting someone to make an integrated case and cooling solution, like build the case around the CPU and videocard heatsinks for optimal airflow and cooling. Thermaltake had a case that put components in separate boxes but it was actually kind of poo poo. Alereon fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jun 2, 2015 |
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:oh They have not released that information. Best I have is that the fan refused to spin when the voltage increase wasn't high enough, so basically it wouldn't always spin up at low workloads, for example when it was helping decode youtube videos; but that it had happened to fans that had never had the sticker. Maybe a bad production run on the fans?
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Gwaihir posted:Water coolers are great on GPUs in general, even if they're not significantly quieter than stuff like MSI's custom cooler, they do really well in performance. Something about GPU dies being so much larger than CPUs maybe? I think 20+ degrees cooler than comparable air is pretty standard. Surface area is probably a factor too, but it's also just a much greater quantity of heat to transport. Realistically unless you're overclocking a CPU pretty hard you're doing liquid cooling for the lower noise profile. But GPUs put out so much heat that I think it makes a lot more sense. I think 250W is about the upper limit of what can be realistically accomplished using heat pipes/heatsink/fan, beyond there you start having to take heroic measures like the Devil 13 (air cooled 295x2).
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Alereon posted:Highdea: For a long time I've been wanting someone to make an integrated case and cooling solution, like build the case around the CPU and videocard heatsinks for optimal airflow and cooling. Thermaltake had a case that put components in separate boxes but it was actually kind of poo poo. That's more or less what the HAF Test Bench cases are designed to do - expose as much airflow as physically possible. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119265
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Another milestone: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125706 First time I've seen a 970 below $300 without a rebate or coupon code. Granted, it's a single-fan ITX, and it seemingly doesn't come with a Witcher 3 code, but it's a good start. And I honestly prefer the Air 540 to the HAF, but they're pretty much the same thing - it's just that the HAF was *designed* to be used horizontally, while some bright bulb at Corsair decided vertical was the way to go, making customers go out and buy their own rubber feet. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 2, 2015 |
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Alereon posted:I think the real difference is that on CPUs its really easy to put a giant tower radiator with heat pipes right on top of the CPU, but with videocards you are super height-constrained. Even a triple-slot cooler can't be very tall when you include the fans. Air cooling excels when you have room because heat pipes are way better at moving heat a smallish distance than pumped water, but if you want to move heat a further distance and have to make it work in a variety of case configurations, water cooling starts to kick rear end. It really surprised me too, I figured lower-end water coolers would have unacceptably high liquid temperatures when cooling GPUs but that doesn't seem to be the case. There was that Zalman? I think case where the entire case functioned as the heatsink, and it had built in heatpipe mounts to attach to your CPU and so on. I think it was both super expensive and sorta garbage though (Also I had a GTX-480 and Thermalright Spitfire heatsink, which I guess is the closest you could get to an HN-D15 on a GPU! That was an exceptionally poor choice of video card, but, welp, the spitfire did a hell of a job cooling it. Kept that thing around 60 ish degrees under load, which was a real accomplishment for a GTX480.)
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Another milestone: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125706 I couldn't remember seeing one either, but a wise person in another thread pointed out that the launch MSRP for the 970 was $299.
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Gwaihir posted:Water coolers are great on GPUs in general, even if they're not significantly quieter than stuff like MSI's custom cooler, they do really well in performance. Something about GPU dies being so much larger than CPUs maybe? I think 20+ degrees cooler than comparable air is pretty standard. Yeah I had just the nzxt bracket and an AIO on a 780ti and I could barely touch 50 degrees OC'd to the max, voltage as high as I could go. With the air cooler I could get into the low 80's. Water cooling kicked rear end for temps and the fan just stayed at a constant low speed. The difference between 30% and 100% fan speed was a few degrees so I ended up leaving it on the stock profile because the volume just never changed that way. Problem was with that particular card I didn't gain many mhz as I was already near the stability limit of the chip apparently. So it wasn't really worth it $ wise, but that's just the gamble imo. It was still a 20% increase over (admittedly low) reference clocks, with 15% seen in fps.
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I've only seen full size 970s at 329.
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Don Lapre posted:I thought it was $329 You're right!
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I had that gigabyte 970 model. There's a reason it's the cheapest.
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Gwaihir posted:(Also I had a GTX-480 and Thermalright Spitfire heatsink, which I guess is the closest you could get to an HN-D15 on a GPU! That was an exceptionally poor choice of video card, but, welp, the spitfire did a hell of a job cooling it. Kept that thing around 60 ish degrees under load, which was a real accomplishment for a GTX480.)
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Is there a program I can use to adjust what settings/resolution a game uses other than Nvidia control panel? I'm having a problem with Shadow of Mordor where it's detecting my native resolution incorrectly as 1920x1080 instead of 3840x2160, so its rendering 3840x2160, then scaling it down to 1920x1080.
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This is funny I click on the link and it is in stock then click back to this thread and back to the link and it is out of stock. Not buying one just thought the timing was funny.
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Lowtechs posted:This is funny I click on the link and it is in stock then click back to this thread and back to the link and it is out of stock. That happened to me too between replies
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I got an autonotice from EVGA that the ACX backplate version was in stock. By the time I managed to actually load up the site, which is crawling, it was gone. They do list the reference model as being in stock right now, if any body is interested. http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-4990-KR
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How much is the hybrid version vs buying the reference and the hybrid kit.
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Don Lapre posted:How much is the hybrid version vs buying the reference and the hybrid kit. Not sure if you mean the hybrid Titan or Ti, but if the Ti pricing follows the Titan pricing you'll be saving about 2 bucks putting it together yourself as well as probably voiding your warranty (someone who knows better please chime in on this bit, I'd like to know for certain). EVGA essentially pre-installs the unit at no additional cost for labor, and gives you their warranty as though it were a brand new card, which is fair because it is. The real trick is going to be getting it at that good price from EVGA, because the Ti Hybrid will probably go the way of the hybrid Titan and be very hard to find (except from Newegg, who will charge a $200 premium to idiots like me who will pay it). I'm currently praying that the 120mm radiator has long enough tubing to go where I want it to go, just to keep me from having to do any case fan shenanigans. I am so loving ready to not be listening to this R9 290 anymore. I like its performance just fine, but it's like having an airport runway 18 inches from my head. It also has no CUDA cores which means no gpu acceleration in IRay, but at least I have a buddy who needs a gpu upgrade and doesn't need that 3d rendering capability so it will go to a good home.
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The aftermarket hybrid Titan X cooling kit from EVGA(?) will work on 980 Ti, right? I'm a little worried about how loud the blowers will get, since my computer sits on my desktop.
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Rocketpriest posted:Not sure if you mean the hybrid Titan or Ti, but if the Ti pricing follows the Titan pricing you'll be saving about 2 bucks putting it together yourself as well as probably voiding your warranty (someone who knows better please chime in on this bit, I'd like to know for certain). EVGA essentially pre-installs the unit at no additional cost for labor, and gives you their warranty as though it were a brand new card, which is fair because it is. The real trick is going to be getting it at that good price from EVGA, because the Ti Hybrid will probably go the way of the hybrid Titan and be very hard to find (except from Newegg, who will charge a $200 premium to idiots like me who will pay it). EVGA, MSI, ASus and im sure others do not void warranties for removing the stock cooler. Subjunctive posted:The aftermarket hybrid Titan X cooling kit from EVGA(?) will work on 980 Ti, right? I'm a little worried about how loud the blowers will get, since my computer sits on my desktop. Yes, they will work on any reference 980, 980ti, or titan x. From any manufacturer as long as its reference board and cooler.
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Don Lapre posted:Yes, they will work on any reference 980, 980ti, or titan x. From any manufacturer as long as its reference board and cooler. Thank you!
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http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/news/hardware/vgacards/35572-computex-amd-fiji-aka-fury-x-slower-than-geforce-gtx-980-ti.html Gdamn amd.
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Rumored slower than an 980ti and initially priced at $850. That is not a good place for AMD to be. Not to mention drawing up to 375 watts, and suggesting a 700 watt supply. I have a good 660w supply, which I am sure would work, but even then it isn't sounding like something I would buy.
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Don Lapre posted:http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/news/hardware/vgacards/35572-computex-amd-fiji-aka-fury-x-slower-than-geforce-gtx-980-ti.html Oh it powers on, it just doesn't have a BIOS and can't display anything. Also make sure you have a 700W PSU 
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Panty Saluter posted:Oh it powers on, it just doesn't have a BIOS and can't display anything. Also make sure you have a 700W PSU 700w* *900w if you also use an FX cpu
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Don Lapre posted:http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/news/hardware/vgacards/35572-computex-amd-fiji-aka-fury-x-slower-than-geforce-gtx-980-ti.html If there's some way to shove these top-tier iGPUs into a NUC form factor, you've got a really compelling Steambox or powerful HTPC.
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Panty Saluter posted:Oh it powers on, it just doesn't have a BIOS and can't display anything. Also make sure you have a 700W PSU I'm no AMD fanboy, but surely a source with a device that can't be actually used isn't a very good source for evaluating performance?
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