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Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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animations dont have much to do with the engine, you can thank bethesda animators for those

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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Yaos posted:

TressFX looks about 100 times better than Hairworks and uses 100 times fewer resources.
But AMD isn't paying hand over fist for developers to include it in their games.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Zzulu posted:

animations dont have much to do with the engine, you can thank bethesda animators for those

the true test will be if we see someone run, suddenly stop, then start rotating

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Michaellaneous posted:

If am honest, what would me get back into it if they just threw everything out. No BoS, no Enclave. Make new groups, with interesting characters. Make them crazy, enjoyable, actually interesting and not "Steel monks" and "Slightly evil steel monks".

There is so much you can do with such a setting. So many characters that could be more interesting than just "Bland".

I am not saying Beth is a bad dev. They are probably trying hard, but they should tell their writers work for their money.

This is probably just me, and my bad opinions. But I like my games colorfull, and cheery, with characters that aren't just pure dead serious all the time. People may enjoy something else. I just have bad opinions about games really and I like to post them.

Sounds a lot like you need some New Vegas. The BoS were pretty minor in that, the Enclave were all but non-existent, and there was a whole lot of interesting characters, especially on the less serious side.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Blockhouse posted:

the true test will be if we see someone run, suddenly stop, then start rotating
It worked for Deus Ex 1, it'll work for every game!

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Serperoth posted:

Sounds a lot like you need some New Vegas.

This is always true, of everybody.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

But AMD isn't paying hand over fist for developers to include it in their games.

Nvidia does not pay anybody to use Gameworks, it's just a total coincidence games with Gameworks are covered with Nvidia ads whenever possible. Like Project Cars, Nvidia is plastered all over the place, and it's not because Nvidia paid for it, but a secret reason they refuse to tell anybody about.

Blockhouse posted:

the true test will be if we see someone run, suddenly stop, then start rotating
I hope it's not like The Witcher 3 where Geralt has a loving turning radius like he's a god drat truck, but only if you are facing the camera. If you are facing away from the camera you can instantly turn around, if you are facing the camera you have to make a 3 point turn to face the other way.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

You have two protagonist voice choices: Troy Baker or Troy Baker with a higher pitched voice

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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What we need is a russian expeditionary faction that recently landed in America

I just want more post apocalyptic russians

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Serperoth posted:

Sounds a lot like you need some New Vegas. The BoS were pretty minor in that, the Enclave were all but non-existent, and there was a whole lot of interesting characters, especially on the less serious side.
Imp Zone poster will respond that he didn't like New Vegas for contrived untruths from 2010 I think you should stop trying

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Yaos posted:

That's every video game ever made. The best video game writing makes the ramblings of a five year old a Pulitzer Prize winner.

Well yeah, but even in comparison to New Vegas it's gonna be godawful. I played through Fallout 3 via TTW a few months back, and the writing there is just dire.

cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

Starhawk64 posted:

Ya'll are going to end up buying it anyway. At least it's got some loving color and won't be brown and gray all the drat time like in the previous games.

Stop getting so wound up for a video game you nerds.

these kind of posts is way worse than whining hth

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
That trailer does not make me want to purchase a videogame.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

cthulhoo posted:

these kind of posts is way worse than whining hth

Would you say it's.....problematic?

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Zzulu posted:

What we need is a russian expeditionary faction that recently landed in America

I just want more post apocalyptic russians
Same, Wasteland 2 didn't deliver on Russians that they teased us about :(

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

I can't wait to have Ron Perlman as our Father who will obviously die early on in the game, maybe find an audio tape of him having sex with our mom as well.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Where is this voiced protagonist thing coming from?

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

Serperoth posted:

Sounds a lot like you need some New Vegas. The BoS were pretty minor in that, the Enclave were all but non-existent, and there was a whole lot of interesting characters, especially on the less serious side.

Yeah but...they all did not really struck me as memorable. And the only real "Major Groups" are the NCR, the Legion which was - granted - visually very cool. But that's about it. Yes man was funny. The House was okay, and the Casino groups had a style to them but...they were just minor.

No, make them big. Make them cool, make them memorable. NCR and Legion is probably a step in the right direction, but if all you can come up with is "Post War Miltary" and "Post war Roman Empire", it's my right to doubt your writers.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

sassassin posted:

That trailer does not make me want to purchase a videogame.

It made me want to purchase XCOM 2.

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Groovelord Neato posted:

Where is this voiced protagonist thing coming from?

The vault guy says something to the dog at the end of the trailer.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Groovelord Neato posted:

Where is this voiced protagonist thing coming from?

he talks to the dog at the end

given that he says the line and then SMASH CUT to logo it's possible that was the stinger, the reveal of a voiced protagonist

but no one knows for sure and we probably won't till E3

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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it was clearly the dog that spoke at the end of the trailer

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Groovelord Neato posted:

Where is this voiced protagonist thing coming from?
The Fallout 4 male protagonist said something that could come from a squad-assignment bark for party members, therefore the protagonist will be voiced.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Groovelord Neato posted:

Where is this voiced protagonist thing coming from?

The end of the trailer, he is talking to the dog.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Groovelord Neato posted:

Where is this voiced protagonist thing coming from?

Very end of the trailer, guy in vault suit who is almost certainly supposed to be the PC appears to say "Let's go, pal". Unless that's actually the dog talking and we're all falling for a huge fake-out.

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

For your information: The Skyrim protagonist was voiced as well.


Hilariously people were losing their poo poo at the idea back then the exact same way.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Zzulu posted:

animations dont have much to do with the engine, you can thank bethesda animators for those

i think its 50% bethesda animators being lovely and lazy because they can get away with it and 50% the oblivion engine obviously not being able to support poo poo like special walking animations for slopes or enemies getting staggered when hit

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

sassassin posted:

That trailer does not make me want to purchase a videogame.

it shouldn't tho because it's just a thing to show off dog physics and confirm yes you are correct, this is Boston and we have learned not to put shitfilters on everything.

I'm still amused that people look like clay but I suppose this is now "an aesthetic." I did notice they avoided showing what faces looked like at every step, bad sign unless the game is like mid 2016 or something. they have a fuckload to live up to after Witcher 3 pushed many noses to the dirt with how great the open world is

cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

gonna awkwardly pet that doge using a hilariously terrible animation :unsmith:

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

The leaked voice cast documents that also revealed it was in boston/the commonwealth and you would be playing as somebody who was around before the bombs dropped and witnessed them were doing a casting call for a male and female voiced protaganist also, if you want something more concrete.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Michaellaneous posted:

Yeah but...they all did not really struck me as memorable. And the only real "Major Groups" are the NCR, the Legion which was - granted - visually very cool. But that's about it. Yes man was funny. The House was okay, and the Casino groups had a style to them but...they were just minor.

No, make them big. Make them cool, make them memorable. NCR and Legion is probably a step in the right direction, but if all you can come up with is "Post War Miltary" and "Post war Roman Empire", it's my right to doubt your writers.

I'm not too keen on many big factions, but I like that attitude, of having interesting stuff. That's probably why I liked FO2 so much, each town felt like its own thing.

Scissorfighter
Oct 7, 2007

With all rocks and papers vanquished, they turn on eachother...

Michaellaneous posted:

It's better than this one.

It might be (because this thread is pretty bad) but you're the worst poster in this one so it's difficult to trust you here.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Well that sucks.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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did you guys not see the trailer start with the dog and end with the dog? Dog got way more screentime than Guy. The dog was rummaging for supplies and stuff

The dog is us. We gonna play as a dog

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Sharkopath posted:

The leaked voice cast documents that also revealed it was in boston/the commonwealth and you would be playing as somebody who was around before the bombs dropped and witnessed them were doing a casting call for a male and female voiced protaganist also, if you want something more concrete.

oh well there u go then

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

2house2fly posted:

Poeple who like the trailer gloat "You Will Buy The Game Anyway :smuggo:"

People who don't like the trailer lament "I will buy the game anyway :negative:"

Naw. Well, yeah.... but I'll wait 'til it's $5. Then play it for maybe an hour and go UGH, people still can't move their eyes and stare straight ahead with parallel eyeballs like creepy corpses.


This looks like dog poo poo. In a world with no power infrastructure and very little electricity, there are still no DARK areas. Just generically overlit, even-contrast zones.
Every single thing about this makes it look like some Fullsail kid's sophomore year project.

Can you not just pony up your 5% to Epic and get a real goddamn engine?

AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Jun 3, 2015

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

MrBims posted:

No, you're right.





Basically this. A group should have a unique identification. How they look, how they act. They should be striking. The worst part about Fo3 is the fact that the two "Main Groups" are a pallet swap, with pretty much no distinct in character whatsoever.

Caesars legion was neat. They had a nice setting, but their whole personality was bland. NCR was just phoned in and absolutely loving lazy.

This is extremely important in game design and basically any other medium. You need to be able to differenciate a group at a glance. Something that makes them special. Characters, look, the general feeling you get when you are around them.

I am thinking back and - this is just my lovely memory - but what character can you actually remember when it comes to the BoS and Enclave in Fo3. The president maybe. What about NCR? gently caress me. The legion? I guess Caesar but that's about it.

e: TES has the same problem. When the most intersting characters are only in sidequests you hosed up.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Imp Zone level reaching critical mass, will newcomer AlternateAccount beat Michellaneous in shitposting power?

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Zzulu posted:

did you guys not see the trailer start with the dog and end with the dog? Dog got way more screentime than Guy. The dog was rummaging for supplies and stuff

The dog is us. We gonna play as a dog

I hope we get dog-shaped power armor. :3:

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Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
so is there a texture pack out yet

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