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I'm seriously confused as to how that guy thinks it is an obvious fact that TNA has more revenue than RoH. I mean out of all of the crazy things he's saying, that one just stands out to me. They don't sell tickets They don't hold PPVs Do we think Destination America is paying them a bunch of money? I feel like I'm missing some key aspect of TNA that makes them seem like a well run and financially secure company to another human being.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I feel like I'm missing some key aspect of TNA that makes them seem like a well run and financially secure company to another human being. "They aren't WWE" is probably all the justification most TNA fans need to continue believing that whatever dumb thing Dixie does is a good idea.
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I just want to go on record and say that I like streamers in ROH.
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ROH actually sells those streamers at the merch table for live events so with that in mind they generated more revenue selling rolls of colorful paper than TNA has on live gates and ppv lately
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Jun 4, 2015 05:24
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Do they sell them now? For years you just had to bring them yourselves and then eventually the one fan who goes to every show became STREAMER GUY and just shared about 100 with fans.
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Jun 4, 2015 05:41
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yeah they sell them at the shows I've been to
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HulkaMatt posted:Do they sell them now? For years you just had to bring them yourselves and then eventually the one fan who goes to every show became STREAMER GUY and just shared about 100 with fans. IIRC there were streamers left under the chairs at the ROH shows I went to.
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They were selling streamers for something like 3 for $10 at Global Wars and Okada Bucks for 5 bucks a package. Sadly I was nowhere near the entrance so I didn't get to make it rain and now I have a pile of fake money in my room. Best 5 bucks I spent at a wrestling show.
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you can either buy them or flag down one of the husky guys in a black t-shirt and jeans sprinting around ringside to clean them up for free slightly used streamers
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HulkaMatt posted:Do they sell them now? For years you just had to bring them yourselves and then eventually the one fan who goes to every show became STREAMER GUY and just shared about 100 with fans. STREAMER GUY's still around and passing them out in his custom t-shirt, but yeah they sell them now too.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I'm seriously confused as to how that guy thinks it is an obvious fact that TNA has more revenue than RoH. I mean out of all of the crazy things he's saying, that one just stands out to me. International Licensing! lol, no. TNA loses money at an insane rate every quarter. ROH has always run on close budgets, made sure everyone got paid, got merch to the tables and DVDs out the door in a reasonable manner. Now their houses are up, their exposure through DA get them more traffic to their site, its looking good for ROH.
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I'm dead
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Jun 4, 2015 20:13
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it begins
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Spermgod posted:it begins Lmfao
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Lead-in killer as opposed to?
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Lead-in killer as opposed to? Bigfoot burial mound mysteries
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Jun 4, 2015 23:10
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Well obviously ROH is so bad at being a wrasslin' show that folks won't stick around for TNA, the superior product. It's definitely not because TNA has a terrible reputation and people are just changing the channel to something better! Dirt sheets.
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oatgan posted:Bigfoot burial mound mysteries i was looking for destination america on my box so i wouldnt miss roh, and the show before that had a bunch of hillbillies running around in the dark, hootin and hollerin, shootin guns, and claiming they were gonna catch bigfoot. i need to watch more destination america, especially when mark and jay briscoe get a tv show
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Spermgod posted:it begins I like the idea that someone would flip to a channel an hour early just because a show airs before their favorite show.
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NXT is Triple H's trojan horse for taking down WWE, and Corporate Kane is in the authority because that's step 237 in his 12 year plan to defeat the Undertaker. #ScoopzBrother.
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Is Ben Miller just being knee jerk contrary or does he actually think this logic makes sense? This TBS (Does TBS even exist anymore? I've got Peachtree where TBS used to be)/Adult Swim analogy sucks.
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the bigfoot mysteries show seems to be predicated on the idea that bigfoots have a level of intelligence approaching that of humans
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NXT is completely separate in fact I watch it on the NXT Network which is only $N.xt a month
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epitasis posted:the bigfoot mysteries show seems to be predicated on the idea that bigfoots have a level of intelligence approaching that of humans Much like Ben Miller's scintillating takes
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I mean much like your posts haha
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epitasis posted:the bigfoot mysteries show seems to be predicated on the idea that bigfoots have a level of intelligence approaching that of humans It was great when the end of the show was like "What I found was conclusive evidence that Bigfoot exists" and then it cut to a Briscoes promo. Renaissance Spam posted:Is Ben Miller just being knee jerk contrary or does he actually think this logic makes sense? Yeah, TBS stopped being a superstation like 7 or 8 years ago. Peachtree is the broadcast arm, TBS is the cable arm.
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Renaissance Spam posted:Is Ben Miller just being knee jerk contrary or does he actually think this logic makes sense? He and everyone like him's logic is "I hate WWE but I like NXT so I'm gonna do mental gymnastics to justify it"
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He said a load of dumb stuff, isn't willing to take it back, and so now is saying a whole load of dumber stuff in order to try and justify it.
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I will say that NXT isn't just a separate brand like Raw and Smackdown used to be. NXT is treated separately and their creative team is different, almost like the NJPW/NOAH relationship, and until recently was never mentioned unless someone got called up or they were hyping a Takeover (and even that's pretty recent too). Besides, a bunch of wrestling websites can make up whatever rules they want for what's "official". Nobody's necessarily wrong there. I don't know why it matters to some wrestlenerds when other wrestlenerds want to call it a different product. It's just one more goofy-rear end semantic to complain about.
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Jun 5, 2015 02:00
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Because saying it's a different promotion is factually incorrect. It's not really up for debate. Smackdown from 2002-2011 was not a different promotion either. And neither was WWE's ECW.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Because saying it's a different promotion is factually incorrect. It's not really up for debate. Smackdown from 2002-2011 was not a different promotion either. And neither was WWE's ECW. Counterpoint: who gives a poo poo
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sticklefifer posted:Counterpoint: who gives a poo poo Hello, my name is INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, nice to meet you.
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Other than "I don't like WWE but I like NXT" what is the point of considering it to be separate? They don't have national TV and aren't in the conversation as the #2 promotion.
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sticklefifer posted:Counterpoint: who gives a poo poo Apparently you
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Other than "I don't like WWE but I like NXT" what is the point of considering it to be separate? I think Miller is separating the two just to justify ranking ROH as "not even in the top 3."
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Jay 2K Winger posted:I think Miller is separating the two just to justify ranking ROH as "not even in the top 3." That's what I'm thinking, which is stupid because at this point it's scuttling the ship. "If TNA can't be #2 then damnit no Indy can be either!" Also, I thought that if the Univision deal went through it was LU that was going to be #2.
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Renaissance Spam posted:That's what I'm thinking, which is stupid because at this point it's scuttling the ship. "If TNA can't be #2 then damnit no Indy can be either!" Yes, but based on the last couple weeks I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
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Renaissance Spam posted:That's what I'm thinking, which is stupid because at this point it's scuttling the ship. "If TNA can't be #2 then damnit no Indy can be either!" If NXT can't be considered a separate promotion from WWE, does the same apply to LU and AAA? E: Hell, LU doesn't even have a touring schedule.
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