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sauer kraut posted:Tonga XT is suspiciously missing from the launch lineup and driver leaks. 380X would be a competitive card between the 960 and 970 that everyone has been begging for for 9 months, so of course it'll never see the light of day.  This is teeth-gritting.
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Who knows maybe Nvidia will cut the price on the 970 or release a 965/960Ti in response to AMD's new cards.
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So the Fury cards in both single and Crossfire modes are only 2-4% better overall than 980Ti series cards in the same configuration. They're hotter, chew more power, and require closed loop cooling while the 980s hum along with air cooling. As much as I love AMD, they really gotta get their stuff together before poo poo hits the fan hard, they already lost money with previous gen cards with regard to pricing and re-branding, and with all they hype I expected more from them. Sorry guys, gonna stick with team green on this one
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Jun 11, 2015 16:07
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You've got firm benchmarks? Link please.
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Jun 11, 2015 16:11
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I dunno, I view watercooling as an advantage rather than a hindrance.
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Jun 11, 2015 16:44
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Ozz81 posted:So the Fury cards in both single and Crossfire modes are only 2-4% better overall than 980Ti series cards in the same configuration. They're hotter, chew more power, and require closed loop cooling while the 980s hum along with air cooling. As much as I love AMD, they really gotta get their stuff together before poo poo hits the fan hard, they already lost money with previous gen cards with regard to pricing and re-branding, and with all they hype I expected more from them. Sorry guys, gonna stick with team green on this one They don't require closed loop water cooling, there's an air cooled version and a water cooled version of Fury X, and there are literally no reputable benchmarks available. So, talking poo poo, much? As much as an easy target AMD has been recently, at least loving wait until the cards are available. vvv Also totally relevant. We don't know the price. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Jun 11, 2015 17:00
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There's also space for AMD to beat Nvidia on price/performance, which they've honestly done really well on with the 290/290x. If the Fury cards cost less than the 980(ti) they'll be an easy pick.
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Power consumption is too high on the 980 Ti versus my old GTX 980  Time to figure out if I can cram a different PSU in my mITX chassis (ATX PSU but depth is 140mm) or explore a different case.
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Jun 11, 2015 17:02
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Water cooling shows up on nvidia cards - cool and everyone wants Water cooling shows up on AMD cards - lovely and harbinger of doom
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Jun 11, 2015 17:06
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The Iron Rose posted:There's also space for AMD to beat Nvidia on price/performance, which they've honestly done really well on with the 290/290x. If the Fury cards cost less than the 980(ti) they'll be an easy pick. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Fury non-X OC numbers and if it's as great a buy as AMD flagship crops have historically been. Seamonster posted:I dunno, I view watercooling as an advantage rather than a hindrance. Blowers are a sad joke these days. It's laughable that the Titan X and 980 Ti with their best ever blowers have to back off their max boost clock. That's literally leaving free performance on the table because the cooler can't cut it. Big Maxwell needs an open cooler or water as well, and AMD at least knows better than to saddle customers with an inferior cooler. Sure with default waterloops you may need a new case to get TriLI (SLTri?) or Quadfire going, but a case that can be had for under $200 is not a big deal when you're filling it with a grand or two in GPU especially if you're getting the full performance out of the cards rather than losing your hard earned performance to throttling. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Jun 11, 2015 17:14
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HalloKitty posted:They don't require closed loop water cooling, there's an air cooled version and a water cooled version of Fury X FWIW Sweclockers are now saying the aircooled version doesn't exist, which is kinda backed up by all the leaks being of the watercooled version. 
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repiv posted:FWIW Sweclockers are now saying the aircooled version doesn't exist, which is kinda backed up by all the leaks being of the watercooled version. A reference Tri-X or similar makes a bunch of sense especially for the non-X Fury, so I think that's well within the realm of possibility. If they put out the non-X with an aio loop reference I'm going to have a hard time resisting.
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repiv posted:FWIW Sweclockers are now saying the aircooled version doesn't exist, which is kinda backed up by all the leaks being of the watercooled version. Except the part where people report the air cooled version comes with a giant sink with 3 fans, like those aftermarket coolers vendors put on for all gpus? I mean, sure, we don't have pictures of that yet, but why would AMD lie about it?
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The only rumors that are going to be right are the ones that got lucky. Please stop posting about them.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Power consumption is too high on the 980 Ti versus my old GTX 980 What PSU are you running that it can no longer run a 980 ti?
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Etrips posted:What PSU are you running that it can no longer run a 980 ti? Edit: Maybe the motherboard's just bad at power delivery via PCIe? GTX 980 is rock solid but the 980 Ti is a crash fest in GTAV and Witcher 3. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Jun 11, 2015 17:25
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:This guy that's probably 4-5 years old now. 600W should be more than enough shouldn't it?
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^^^PSUs do lose capacity over time.Truga posted:Except the part where people report the air cooled version comes with a giant sink with 3 fans, like those aftermarket coolers vendors put on for all gpus? I mean, sure, we don't have pictures of that yet, but why would AMD lie about it? Responding to the failure of the 290(X) blower and all the benchmarks scoring a card spending most of its time severely throttled by going straight to effective coolers that let the card get benchmarked in the cool, quiet and full speed condition it will be sold in is the single most believable rumor I've heard on anything in a long time. The Devil Tesla posted:The only rumors that are going to be right are the ones that got lucky. Please stop posting about them. Yeah there's a rumor for everything. I'm pretty confident in the multiple leaks of the looks but who knows about the rest, all that is less than words on paper. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:This guy that's probably 4-5 years old now. Titan X @1450 /w 16gb ram and 4790k @ 4.6ghz pulling less than 500w from the wall for me. xthetenth posted:It's laughable that the Titan X and 980 Ti with their best ever blowers have to back off their max boost clock. This has not been my experience with a titan x
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Etrips posted:600W should be more than enough shouldn't it?
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Etrips posted:600W should be more than enough shouldn't it? Don Lapre posted:Titan X @1450 /w 16gb ram and 4790k @ 4.6ghz pulling less than 500w from the wall for me.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Right, I get that. The question is what's the quality of power being delivered as you bump up the load, not just how many Watts can it push. In theory mine is an 80+ Bronze but I'm wondering I can do better in that form factor. Power supply performance also degrades after a few years. You can probably get more efficiency. Do you have another PSU around that you could try switching just to see if it works? I'm picturing temporarily running all the cabling from a normal ATX PSU into your small box and firing up GTAV.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Power consumption is too high on the 980 Ti versus my old GTX 980
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Don Lapre posted:This has not been my experience with a titan x Hmm, seen it in multiple reviews, although you can up the limits to let it clock higher if you're cool with letting the fan speed up. I've definitely heard from multiple people that an OC TX belongs under water.
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If anyone is waiting, Newegg is taking preorders again for the G1.
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 Guess the xfx leaks were legit $449 bestbuy 6/21 release http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/39ghw4/this_just_came_in_at_work_today/
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So this is a 290X with a slight clock bump and 8GB VRAM for $449? That's going to be hard sell.
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Twerk from Home posted:So this is a 290X with a slight clock bump and 8GB VRAM for $449? That's going to be hard sell. Thats gonna be MSRP like the $379 970's at bestbuy. Probably looking at $399 online i bet.
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All this bickering over the Fury cards is premature, all we have is a leaked benchmark and leaked specs that happen to line up with each other really well and even if both of those are true we don't know pricing yet. We can start complaining when and if those benchmarks and specs end up true and if they are overpriced for what they can do. I'm expecting that AMD will disappoint because they have been having a rough time of it lately but I'm hoping they will surprise us and get some market share back. EDIT: $449 MSRP? For a 290X with 8GB of VRAM? For serious AMD? 
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Looks like they're positioning it against the 980. That indicates they're expecting it to be outright better than the 970. I'm expecting decent cards priced well from AMD. Although if that leak was legit and they decided to quadruple the ROP performance of Hawaii, there might be something real impressive at high res. Or it's a lie from someone who forgot Tonga was a thing. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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xthetenth posted:Looks like they're positioning it against the 980. That indicates they're expecting it to be outright better than the 970. At stock clocks isn't the 290X broadly within 5% of a 970? The biggest problem I see is that street price on 290s has been <$250 and street price on 290X ~$280.
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Twerk from Home posted:At stock clocks isn't the 290X broadly within 5% of a 970? The biggest problem I see is that street price on 290s has been <$250 and street price on 290X ~$280. Yeah, the cynic in me is saying the benchmark boost from using an actual cooler is what they're counting on, because it is pretty significant, but there may well be more. Hoping for more though.
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Twerk from Home posted:You can probably get more efficiency. Do you have another PSU around that you could try switching just to see if it works? I'm picturing temporarily running all the cabling from a normal ATX PSU into your small box and firing up GTAV. future ghost fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?i...nw&gclsrc=aw.ds 8gb 290x for 349 currently haha
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:EDIT: $449 MSRP? For a 290X with 8GB of VRAM? For serious AMD? Best Buy tends to bump card prices by 25%. Expect an actual price of closer to $349.
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Kazinsal posted:Best Buy tends to bump card prices by 25%. Expect an actual price of closer to $349. Yeah best buy is crazy high on video cards, and often sells slightly different models so they don't have to price match them! See: selling 970 Nvidia reference cards for like $399
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I think Newegg still has some 970 reference cards. Prices are like, the same as or higher than at launch though.
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Guy who posted that amd link deleted all his poo poo lol. Didnt' realize everything was in his post to track him down.
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