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and BSG is a great tv show, its just fashionable to hate it at the moment because its coming on for a decade old. things will spin back around again and people will recommend it eventually.
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i have no idea what the gently caress is fashionable in the sci fi world, but that show is fuckin lame and anybody that likes it is lame
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Jun 16, 2015 00:34
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opus111 posted:and BSG is a great tv show, its just fashionable to hate it at the moment because its coming on for a decade old. things will spin back around again and people will recommend it eventually. Also because it went off the rails after Season 2
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Jun 16, 2015 00:35
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Continuity is far less important then internal consistency, and it is the heart of Star Trek. All problems on the show are solved by reason. Everyone knows how a sword fight works so if you solve problems in your show by sword fighting, everyone already has a pretty good understanding of what's going on, the difficulties involved, how one guy might be tougher to beat, appreciate the use of creativity to gain an edge and so on. Because there isn't this basically physicality to problem solving in Star Trek, it goes to great lengths to establish and maintain the rules of the universe, because otherwise the struggles and accomplishments of the characters would be meaningless. You need to learn that Klingons have cloaks, the warp drive reacts matter and antimatter with dilithium to create warp plasma that creates a bubble that warps space to fling the ship around at super luminal velocities, that a holodeck character can't live outside the holodeck and Bajor's gods are actually real. It's the internal reality of the show that not only makes it compelling but powers every story beat.
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Jun 16, 2015 00:55
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Re: Naomi Wildman's mom, she almost died in one episode, but for some reason the writers all thought she had actually died, so she stopped showing up.
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Jun 16, 2015 00:56
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opus111 posted:and BSG is a great tv show, its just fashionable to hate it at the moment because its coming on for a decade old. things will spin back around again and people will recommend it eventually. The finale ruined the series, I couldn't recommend people waste time watching it for what transpired in the final season. Watch the mini-series, then pretend they made it to earth and fought the Cylons and lost, with it any hope humanity had of survival that is the ending I wanted to see, and that is how I will remember it.
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Jun 16, 2015 01:06
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Cobra-Commander posted:The finale ruined the series, I couldn't recommend people waste time watching it for what transpired in the final season. Watch the mini-series, then pretend they made it to earth and fought the Cylons and lost, with it any hope humanity had of survival that is the ending I wanted to see, and that is how I will remember it. You're robbing yourself of a couple of seasons of great TV if you do that, though. If you had said to watch through the first four episodes of season three, and then pretend that the show was tragically canceled in its prime by evil network executives, then I'd have a lot less of a problem with that strategy.
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Jun 16, 2015 01:17
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Powered Descent posted:You're robbing yourself of a couple of seasons of great TV if you do that, though. 33 was one of the best episodes of sci fi of any series, most of the show was soap opera tier though, mainly due to budget cuts.
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Jun 16, 2015 01:25
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Fetus Tree posted:i have no idea what the gently caress is fashionable in the sci fi world, but that show is fuckin lame and anybody that likes it is lame lol outrage much?
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Jun 16, 2015 01:31
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opus111 posted:lol outrage much? no, not even a little just because people dont like the show you're a fanboy of doesn't mean they're outraged hth
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Jun 16, 2015 01:35
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I'll say one thing for BSG: It made a drat good board game Seriously, grab 4 of your friends and play it, it's awesome
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Jun 16, 2015 02:56
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Fetus Tree posted:no, not even a little lol i don't care if people like it or not, which is why i post in gbs and not tv/iv, where people do care a lot.
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Jun 16, 2015 03:01
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Lol I'm watching voyager, s6e20. At the beginning they carry, by hand, a power transfer requisition all they way to some idiot jerk in engineering or whatever. It's like, dude you in loving space flying faster than light and you can't transfer a file to the dudes computer what
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Jun 16, 2015 03:01
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Those roaming charges are a bitch outside the alpha quadrant
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Huge Lady Pleaser posted:Lol I'm watching voyager, s6e20. At the beginning they carry, by hand, a power transfer requisition all they way to some idiot jerk in engineering or whatever. It's like, dude you in loving space flying faster than light and you can't transfer a file to the dudes computer what Star Trek was right about tablets, I'll give them that. But they really poo poo the bed when it came to wireless data transfer. It happens on DS9 all the time too, some
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Jun 16, 2015 03:45
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yeah let me just clear off my desk filled with tablets
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Jun 16, 2015 03:51
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it makes sense to have multple pads because i assume they're as commonplace and cheap as paper and switching from screen to screen on one device is really annoying.
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Jun 16, 2015 03:56
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opus111 posted:it makes sense to have multple pads because i assume they're as commonplace and cheap as paper and switching from screen to screen on one device is really annoying. congrats youre an idiot
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Jun 16, 2015 03:58
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Fetus Tree posted:congrats youre an idiot rude
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Jun 16, 2015 04:00
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truth hurts
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Jun 16, 2015 04:02
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Fetus Tree posted:congrats youre an idiot you're continuing hostility and internet stalking of me makes you look like a very strange person.
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Jun 16, 2015 04:02
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opus111 posted:you're continuing hostility and internet stalking of me makes you look like a very strange person. lol what the gently caress other thread do you think im stalking you in
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Jun 16, 2015 04:03
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Huge Lady Pleaser posted:Lol I'm watching voyager, s6e20. At the beginning they carry, by hand, a power transfer requisition all they way to some idiot jerk in engineering or whatever. It's like, dude you in loving space flying faster than light and you can't transfer a file to the dudes computer what Starfleet is mainly a jobs program
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Jun 16, 2015 04:59
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Star Trek predicted tablet computers, but predicted that people would only use them as glorified floppy disks with the only program installed on them being Notepad.
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Jun 16, 2015 05:19
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Star Fleet manages to beat the Borg in every movie. Every thing that happens in every episode is just the lead up to the next battle with the machines. Which makes sense, because the machines are superior to humans in almost every way imaginable.
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Jun 16, 2015 05:23
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I love seeing those tablets. I like to imagine they're all playing Klingon Krush and posting on Spacebook 
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Jun 16, 2015 05:24
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Klingon Krush is played with the google glass that makes you go crazy
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Jun 16, 2015 05:26
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Entropic posted:Star Trek predicted tablet computers, but predicted that people would only use them as glorified floppy disks with the only program installed on them being Notepad. Also, each one only has 100K of RAM, so you need to have a lot of them if you want to store multiple files. And they have no keyboard or voice interface, but instead, you write on them using some sort of weird pencil: 
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Jun 16, 2015 07:08
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opus111 posted:lol i don't care if people like it or not, which is why i post in gbs and not tv/iv, where people do care a lot. opus111 posted:it doesn't last so long because its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real, its not real!!!!
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Jun 16, 2015 07:37
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Pththya-lyi posted:Also because it went off the rails after Season 2 you might say THEY WENT THE WRONG WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Jun 16, 2015 08:20
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The really annoying thing about BSG is how eventually they started doing this thing where they put stuff in the "Previously on Battlestar Galactica" that didn't happen.
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Jun 16, 2015 12:48
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muscles like this? posted:The really annoying thing about BSG is how eventually they started doing this thing where they put stuff in the "Previously on Battlestar Galactica" that didn't happen. They took one of the right lessons from Arrested Development?
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Jun 16, 2015 14:26
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muscles like this? posted:The really annoying thing about BSG is how eventually they started doing this thing where they put stuff in the "Previously on Battlestar Galactica" that didn't happen. "Previously on Everyone's a Cylon".
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Jun 16, 2015 14:57
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You can try tabbed browsing in LCARS but it will more than likely cause the console to explode and lodge itself in your skull
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Fetus Tree posted:yeah let me just clear off my desk filled with tablets Stuff like this is really stupid but who cares, it's just visual shorthand for portraying events on the screen in a way the viewer can relate to in order to progress the story, and I think it's easy to understand and accept that. Sci-Fi that seriously speculates how daily life would change with advanced technology is interesting but Star Trek has never ever been that, I can't think of even a single episode that does. (Maybe Barclay's holodiction, barely? There must be at least a few.) Star Trek instead flatly and stubbornly assumes daily routines won't change at all (which is ridiculous sometimes, as you and others are correctly noting here!) in order to just try to tell stories about the people. I want to tie this in somehow with bad script writers using unsatisfying technobabble resolutions to their plot but I am tired of writing this post.
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Lord of Pie posted:You can try tabbed browsing in LCARS but it will more than likely cause the console to explode and lodge itself in your skull Electronics of all kinds have been very dangerous ever since the ancient technology of "fuses" was lost in the eugenics wars.
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Jun 16, 2015 15:34
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Mr. Horrible posted:Star Trek was right about tablets, I'll give them that. But they really poo poo the bed when it came to wireless data transfer. It happens on DS9 all the time too, some tv is a visual medium, watching an extra hand a thing to the character makes more sense than the character sitting around and seeing new mail on his screen
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Jun 16, 2015 16:45
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I remember a scene where Sisko is pissed so he takes a PADD and throws it across the room. There's a big difference between Star Trek PADDs and real tablets, their screens are made out of Space Glass and can survive being thrown at a wall, and if you do manage to break it you just replicate another. Once we have tablets that are cheap enough and tough enough to not worry about how we handle them, we may see changes to usage habits.
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Ralp posted:Stuff like this is really stupid but who cares, it's just visual shorthand for portraying events on the screen in a way the viewer can relate to in order to progress the story, and I think it's easy to understand and accept that. Sci-Fi that seriously speculates how daily life would change with advanced technology is interesting but Star Trek has never ever been that, I can't think of even a single episode that does. (Maybe Barclay's holodiction, barely? There must be at least a few.) i was just remarking that while they nailed tablets they didnt at all nail their functionality, idgaf, youll find me to be one of the least likely to harp on sci fi tech crap i prefer to talk about skants and worf
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Don't forget everyone has a laptop too, but they only have one button.
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