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BigRed0427 posted:Mind if I try an experiment? You got me curious and so I dug around. First, I need a shower now. Second, it's hilarious how mild the criticism is towards Oliver specifically. It's a whole lot of "Oh no he's been convinced by those evil SJWs", or "I lost so much respect for John for making this episode."<- an actual quote. So anyway, here's some choice bits: some Reddit users posted:Couldn't get through the video. The instant he brought up white male privilege I was like "gently caress it, I'm done, this is just as ignorant as his "gender wage gap" video" and turned it off. youtube commenters posted:Becoming a SJW, eh ? Good for you, Oliver. Might score you some pussy. There's almost no direct insults at Jon himself much less threats. It's all bemoaning another funny, well liked white man was taken in by these evil women and let down by his staff of SJWs. On the plus side, essentially no one defending the confederate flag.
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IRQ posted:You're no Irish Joe Occ (because I know you're 100% serious), but I appreciate the effort. et tu irq 
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Jun 22, 2015 20:40
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Relentlessboredomm posted:You got me curious and so I dug around. First, I need a shower now. Second, it's hilarious how mild the criticism is towards Oliver specifically. It's a whole lot of "Oh no he's been convinced by those evil SJWs", or "I lost so much respect for John for making this episode."<- an actual quote. Hilarious, but not surprising. He's a white man, after all.
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Jun 22, 2015 20:48
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The best thing about this episode is I know who to cull from my Facebook friends list now. Thanks John Oliver! I still can't believe caring about social issues is a bad thing, everyone just comes off as a trying to hard troll.
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Jun 22, 2015 20:49
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Shugojin posted:Hilarious, but not surprising. He's a white man, after all. White Penis Powers ACTIVATE
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Jun 22, 2015 20:52
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Toxxupation posted:et tu irq No dude, I know exactly where you're coming from. Most here don't though. And you're pissing them off, and that's what's important.
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Jun 22, 2015 20:53
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I really can not wait to see how he responds to this on the Bugle or next weeks episode.
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Jun 22, 2015 20:54
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Toxxupation posted:et tu irq To be super fair, if John made a bigger deal of her specifically, I'd agree way more with what you're trying to say. But he really didn't. She was like, third or fourth to show up, and had the least amount of screen time. She was literally just another example in a pretty good list of them. It's like bringing up some dude who had something horrible happen to him, along with a bunch of other people who had similar bad things happen to them. It doesn't matter if they, say, were arrested for drunk driving or whatever, unless you specifically bring them to the front and say that this person is a total saint and is totally right in everything they say, even with the actually wrong things they did themselves. That didn't happen here, so it's not really a hill I feel like is worth defending.
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Jun 22, 2015 20:58
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lol at /r/KotakuInAction for calling John Oliver, a man who makes as many dick jokes as possible for a living, "too PC"
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Jun 22, 2015 20:59
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bobkatt013 posted:I really can not wait to see how he responds to this on the Bugle or next weeks episode.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:11
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Toxxupation posted:Obama is a friend of the family who deserves to die and is a kenyan Looks like lowtax is gonna get another subpeona! Nice meltdown though
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Jun 22, 2015 21:19
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Echo Chamber posted:lol at /r/KotakuInAction for calling John Oliver, a man who makes as many dick jokes as possible for a living, "too PC" He said that women shouldn't be threatened for expressing themselves. As a traitor to the male cause he must be destroyed!
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Jun 22, 2015 21:22
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Random Stranger posted:He said that women shouldn't be threatened for expressing themselves. As a traitor to the male cause he must be destroyed! So you are saying that naked pictures should be posted of him and death threats are the solution? bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jun 22, 2015 |
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Jun 22, 2015 21:23
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Man, I thought the whole gamergate debacle was over by now. This whole thing is just part of how the wild west of the internet needs to be tamed somehow. Normally the biggest attempts at regulating it come from corporate interests, but then there's all this poo poo running about.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:33
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Pick posted:Why would you tint a biodome. Like, to prevent light getting in or so people can't watch the gorillas gently caress or what's up here. Purple is a cooler color for the sky, of course. I love when people bring up cases of men being attack in the same way that women are as if it were some counterpoint. It makes it really plain that the person doesn't give a good god drat about fixing the problem, they just want to win an imaginary points game. That, or they're so deep into this crap they honestly believe the feminist hordes are coming for their balls.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:35
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SlothfulCobra posted:Man, I thought the whole gamergate debacle was over by now. Reddit is owned by massive multimedia corporation Advance Publications, they just seem to have no interest in curtailing all the horrible poo poo that goes on there.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:40
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If anything, it's good to point out that even crazy people shouldn't be harassed with rape and death threats.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:44
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SlothfulCobra posted:Man, I thought the whole gamergate debacle was over by now. Its the double edged sword of things. The wild west analogy works fairly well, since to go with the freedom the 'untamed landscape' allows, where people can do a lot of stuff they never could before and achieve where otherwise they might have failed (even just as a casual thing, I regularly speak to people from the USA, Sweden, Singapore, Malaysia, and Australia. When I was born that would be mindblowing), you have tonnes of 'bandits' who care little for social norms and know there is little in place to stop them. Btw: What is John's little pyrotechnics display from? Might have missed an episode due to being on a field school.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:47
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IRQ posted:Reddit is owned by massive multimedia corporation Advance Publications, they just seem to have no interest in curtailing all the horrible poo poo that goes on there. Reddit isn't going to curb behavior unless their hands are basically forced. People who would generally agree that abuse and threats of physical or sexual violence are totally uncalled often still go stupid when you frame it as an issue of ~Internet Freedom~.
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IRQ posted:Reddit is owned by massive multimedia corporation Advance Publications, they just seem to have no interest in curtailing all the horrible poo poo that goes on there. They started clamping down on the subreddits that seemed to endorse real life harassment, so they do change poo poo, but I mean how long did it take to ban the obvious child porn/jailbait reddits? They move really slow.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:56
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Dreylad posted:They started clamping down on the subreddits that seemed to endorse real life harassment, Mainly just ones big enough to show up on the front page. There are still plenty of awful ones left untouched from what I heard.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:58
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Motto posted:Mainly just ones big enough to show up on the front page. There are still plenty of awful ones left untouched from what I heard. No doubt, and they probably wont go away either.
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Jun 22, 2015 21:59
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Dreylad posted:They started clamping down on the subreddits that seemed to endorse real life harassment, so they do change poo poo, but I mean how long did it take to ban the obvious child porn/jailbait reddits? They move really slow. Several months of people saying HEY loving LOOK AT IT. LOOK AT IT. THIS IS AWFUL.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:You got me curious and so I dug around. First, I need a shower now. Second, it's hilarious how mild the criticism is towards Oliver specifically. It's a whole lot of "Oh no he's been convinced by those evil SJWs", or "I lost so much respect for John for making this episode."<- an actual quote. See when a white man does this they can have a reaction like losing respect. Because they respected him before. But if a woman did it they couldn't lose respect cus they never respected any women in the first place.
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Orange Devil posted:See when a white man does this they can have a reaction like losing respect. Because they respected him before. But if a woman did it they couldn't lose respect cus they never respected any women in the first place. Thankfully, I suspect it'll be a cold day in hell before John kowtows to these man-children. The idea that they can change his mind about something him and his staff researched for hours for the purpose making a show that costs thousands (possibly millions, I have no idea what the show's budget is) to make with a few well placed e-mails or a petition or whatever these fucksticks have planned would be funny, if it weren't so sad. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 22, 2015 |
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Jun 22, 2015 22:35
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If only John Oliver knew how good it feels to anonymously tell a woman he intended to murder her because she had bad video game opinions.
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Pick posted:If only John Oliver knew how good it feels to anonymously tell a woman he intended to murder her because she had bad video game opinions. I know. I'm starting to think that Mr. Oliver doesn't even understand the white man's burden at all. Doesn't he know, heavy is the head that literally wears the proverbial crowns? As in, just about all of the crowns?
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Jun 22, 2015 23:32
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That sociopath sending death threats to that crazy person you don't like? They've done you and me a favor by labeling themselves as a sociopath. You should probably support efforts to get their name to the authorities so they can be tracked. Cause they're probably destined to mutilate some cats in their hood, then move on to other nasty poo poo.. you know the drill.
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tarlibone posted:I know. I'm starting to think that Mr. Oliver doesn't even understand the white man's burden at all. Congratulations on your black-latino mixed lesbian transgendered jewish vagina wearer of all the crowns. Don't you realize how hard it is for straight white men to criticize your opinions on matters of dire importance like vidja games by threatening your life without people taking it the wrong way!
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Pick posted:If anything, it's good to point out that even crazy people shouldn't be harassed with rape and death threats. It's almost as if believing in a positive, equitable society should also come with some kind of understanding that the people you politically disagree with shouldn't face disproportionate punishment for being problematic. (Being made fun of is neither a threat nor a violation of your free speech, white dudes. Call back when you are getting SWAT teams called to your house and bomb threats for your speaking engagements.) That saying "this kind of harassment is bad" being followed by "well the person DID say [bad thing]" seems to be trying to create a sense of justifiable causation between the two, like the victim should have just expected this as the result. Maybe they shouldn't have worn such provocative clothes, I guess!
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Brogressive (I reluctantly but seriously use that word now sadly) and libertarian types on Reddit and elsewhere have a pathology in believing that "People agree with me; they just don't know it yet", unaware how irregular their priorities are. Screaming "ethics" and their fixation on discrediting Anita specifically. Oliver has won brogressive goodwill for his support for net neutrality and giving Snowden a platform. And he gloriously spent that capital by pointing out the simple fact that it sucks to be a woman on the internet, not once ever uttering the phrase "ethics in video game journalism". That's why it's so satisfying. For quintessential Reddit-types, Oliver was "one of us". But then he really wasn't. Some will try to rationalize it by thinking Oliver didn't look into "the real issue" hard enough. But hopefully for most shitlords it's a reminder that normal people know their narrow "but video games and nerd culture!!!!" worldview is horseshit.
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I didn't think last night's episode was very good and that was maybe the least interesting, least compelling main segment he's done yet. I guess John thought it merited some of his time, but I didn't learn anything new and I wasn't made to give a poo poo, either, so I feel like mine was wasted. I hope that was a bottle segment or something and John just didn't have anything substantial to talk and joke about. They tried so hard to make me angry because there are mean people, and creepy people, and creepy mean people on the internet?  how scandalous.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Thankfully, I suspect it'll be a cold day in hell before John kowtows to these man-children. The idea that they can change his mind about something him and his staff researched for hours for the purpose making a show that costs thousands (possibly millions, I have no idea what the show's budget is) to make with a few well placed e-mails or a petition or whatever these fucksticks have planned would be funny, if it weren't so sad. See the thing is the whole idea of "redpill" tells you everything you need to know about their mentality. They think they're privvy to some kind of secret truth that the rest of the world is blinded to and that all they need to do is to reveal that truth and everyone will naturally take their side. It's conspiracy nut 101. People don't disagree with you because you're wrong; it's because they don't know the TRUTH.
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hemophilia posted:I didn't think last night's episode was very good and that was maybe the least interesting, least compelling main segment he's done yet. I guess John thought it merited some of his time, but I didn't learn anything new and I wasn't made to give a poo poo, either, so I feel like mine was wasted. I hope that was a bottle segment or something and John just didn't have anything substantial to talk and joke about. They tried so hard to make me angry because there are mean people, and creepy people, and creepy mean people on the internet? Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and guess the segment was not really aimed at people constantly immersed in the shittiest aspects of the Internet.
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hemophilia posted:They tried so hard to make me angry because there are mean people, and creepy people, and creepy mean people on the internet? We're conditioned to Something Awful.
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Yeah for ordinary people that poo poo isn't just a review. And I really hope he does a follow-up detailing the reaction and its lack of threats to rape his headless corpse. I'm almost tempted to give him one for the novelty of the experience but actually no I'm not just thinking about saying it is making me feel icky.
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I'm going to thoroughly enjoy it when Oliver spends an episode completely destroying reddit.
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SlothfulCobra posted:This whole thing is just part of how the wild west of the internet needs to be tamed somehow.  tolls on everything with a forum or comments section.
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