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xcore posted:Queue me putting off upgrading again and then realising that in 6-12 months time everyone on this page is saying "HBM2 is only in it's infancy and it's expensive as hell as it's new tech. The smart money is on the next gen when they have refined the techonology to get the best performance out of it and development costs have been lowered." The way generations have been split, NV and AMD will be leading off with their small chip Arctic Islands/Pascal designs, HBM2 should be plenty of bandwidth for any increases not to matter, and they'll probably be going to a lower node and adding FinFETs. All of those but starting off with the small chip are going to be one time things that should add a bunch of performance, while them leading off with small chips should mean except for a top end milking machine there will be pricing like the 970 for a huge jump. Things will get better still from there, but it should be pretty much the biggest generational jump in memory if not history
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Boris Galerkin posted:What case is that? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163182 I like the thing. Only thing to note is that with the top mounted power supply, you'll hear it a lot more than with other cases. So if you care about quiet, make sure your PS has a fanless mode. I have one of these, and it works very well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151121
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Filthy Monkey posted:Silverstone tj08b-e LiquidRain fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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So I've decided to go with a GTX 970 4GB. Is the MSI version good enough? Bit bewildered by all the different makes. Is overclocking simple enough with it?
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Rather Dashing posted:So I've decided to go with a GTX 970 4GB. Is the MSI version good enough? Bit bewildered by all the different makes. Is overclocking simple enough with it? Yes, yes, yes
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Rather Dashing posted:So I've decided to go with a GTX 970 4GB. Is the MSI version good enough? Bit bewildered by all the different makes. Is overclocking simple enough with it? http://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner My 980ti is listed as out for delivery right now. Come on Fedex, I want to stick it in!
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xthetenth posted:Things will get better still from there, but it should be pretty much the biggest generational jump in memory if not history
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Filthy Monkey posted:MSI is fine. Buy that. As for overclocking, download afterburner. Load it up, move a slider, and congratulations, you have overclocked! Yeah, overclocking is kinda idiot proof now which is cool. My own 970 overclocking experience was just cranking up the core clock until the driver started crashing, then backing off about 30mhz. Even then when the driver crashes it's just "screen goes black for 2 seconds". It's kinda awesome.
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cat doter posted:Yeah, overclocking is kinda idiot proof now which is cool. My own 970 overclocking experience was just cranking up the core clock until the driver started crashing, then backing off about 30mhz. Even then when the driver crashes it's just "screen goes black for 2 seconds". It's kinda awesome. So there's no recommended level to overclocking a particular card? Does the rest of my system have a bearing on how far I can go or something?
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HalloKitty posted:In my opinion AMD introduced the new HBM stack in the wrong order - the high end card shouldn't have come so soon. Fury Nano or maybe Fury Not-X would have been a better introduction, and the 4GiB of VRAM easier to swallow, and then boom, throw out Fury X when DirectX 12/Vulkan hits its stride, and their drivers are no longer hamstringing the poo poo out of their cards. I don't think they released in the wrong order, as there should have been more R/D into not having that 4GB limit on HBM. I wonder though, and maybe it's already been brought up - could AMD theoretically pair its HBM with additional GDDR5 on the board? Would that cripple the card, be too expensive or just be something that's not possible to do with current tech? I'd be interested to see if it's a possibility, AMD has been using wider buses for a while on their high-end cards (384 and 512 bit) but wasn't sure if HBM could be compatible with, say, an additional 2-4GB GDDR5 running a 512-bit bus to take away high-res limitations.
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Rather Dashing posted:So there's no recommended level to overclocking a particular card? Does the rest of my system have a bearing on how far I can go or something? Your power supply, pretty much. Each card is different for how far it will go. Just depends no your GPU lottery.
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Hey, look on the bright side. At least FuryX isn't slower than AMD's previous generation of cards. That's progress, right?
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Rather Dashing posted:So there's no recommended level to overclocking a particular card? Does the rest of my system have a bearing on how far I can go or something? Not really. You can look up other people's numbers for your specific model but by the time you get enough of them to make an educated guess you could have just overclocked it yourself. Numbers between different cards essentially dont work since the stock values are different.
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Nostrum posted:Hey, look on the bright side. At least FuryX isn't slower than AMD's previous generation of cards. That's progress, right? By the standards of AMD CPUs, absolutely!!
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cat doter posted:Yeah, overclocking is kinda idiot proof now which is cool. You say that, but they'll make a better idiot - I promise.
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El Scotch posted:You say that, but they'll make a better idiot - I promise. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Jun 25, 2015 17:48
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cat doter posted:Yeah, overclocking is kinda idiot proof now which is cool. My own 970 overclocking experience was just cranking up the core clock until the driver started crashing, then backing off about 30mhz. Even then when the driver crashes it's just "screen goes black for 2 seconds". It's kinda awesome. Yeah, automatic voltage ramping when OCing is all kinds of nice, I kind of forgot how much Maxwell cards automatically up the volts at higher clocks. Hopefully AMD does something similarly nice to fix their current setup of no volt changes for you, their cards need manual voltage tweaking to OC.
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So, for someone gaming at 1080p for at least the next couple years who wants to crank all the settings and still hit (or get near) 60 fps - is the GTX 980 the sweet spot, ignoring price/performance for the moment? The 970 seems like it isn't quite there, while the 980 Ti seems like it gives diminishing returns at 1080p (although, I wonder if that headroom would be useful in a few years as devs keep adding bling to games). My 7950 is mostly fine at the moment, but with the Witcher 3 currently and Fallout 4 coming up (despite, I'm guessing, not being as taxing as W3), I'm starting to get the upgrade itch, but holding out for Pascal seems a better idea assuming it's coming in early/mid 2016 and not late 2016.
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Space Racist posted:So, for someone gaming at 1080p for at least the next couple years who wants to crank all the settings and still hit (or get near) 60 fps - is the GTX 980 the sweet spot, ignoring price/performance for the moment? The 970 seems like it isn't quite there, while the 980 Ti seems like it gives diminishing returns at 1080p (although, I wonder if that headroom would be useful in a few years as devs keep adding bling to games). If you're willing to spend that much on GPU, why not consider moving to a higher resolution monitor too? 2560x1440 is really awesome and gives tons of screen real estate for general use. It's nice for more than just gaming and there's good options around $300 now. Yes, anything faster than a 970 is less relevant at 1080p than at higher resolutions. That said, you wouldn't regret moving to a higher res.
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Twerk from Home posted:If you're willing to spend that much on GPU, why not consider moving to a higher resolution monitor too? 2560x1440 is really awesome and gives tons of screen real estate for general use. It's nice for more than just gaming and there's good options around $300 now. The thing about monitors is my current setup is connected to a 32" 1080p TV that I do 95% of my gaming on (from an armchair). I figured I'd just keep my setup as-is until 4k is more affordable in a few years, at which point I'd probably need a full re-build as well.
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Space Racist posted:So, for someone gaming at 1080p for at least the next couple years who wants to crank all the settings and still hit (or get near) 60 fps - is the GTX 980 the sweet spot, ignoring price/performance for the moment? The 970 seems like it isn't quite there, while the 980 Ti seems like it gives diminishing returns at 1080p (although, I wonder if that headroom would be useful in a few years as devs keep adding bling to games). Yes I would agree, if price wasn't a factor I think a 980 is really great for 1080p. On an unrelated note, I'll sell you a G1 Gaming for $400 
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Space Racist posted:So, for someone gaming at 1080p for at least the next couple years who wants to crank all the settings and still hit (or get near) 60 fps - is the GTX 980 the sweet spot, ignoring price/performance for the moment? The 970 seems like it isn't quite there, while the 980 Ti seems like it gives diminishing returns at 1080p (although, I wonder if that headroom would be useful in a few years as devs keep adding bling to games). Hold out for Pascal and get the x70 equivalent. It's anyone's guess when the cards will come out though and I wouldn't bet lots of money on it being out within the next 8 months or so. HBM 2 will be nice. So is a 970 mind you, and it'll be pretty easy to resell in a year, and you'll have significantly better performance in the interim. Not to mention you get to wait until Nvidia starts bundling games with their GPUs again next upgrade cycle. I'd say go with the 970, the 980 is notoriously poor value for the money. E: ^^^ though $400 isn't a bad price for it at all. That's about as much as I paid for my 970 (California taxes  )
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I'm throwing my EVGA 780 ti SC on SA Mart when I get home. Keep forgetting to do it. Thoughts on pricing? I figured I'd just put it at $225 to move it quickly.
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Incredulous Dylan posted:I'm throwing my EVGA 780 ti SC on SA Mart when I get home. Keep forgetting to do it. Thoughts on pricing? I figured I'd just put it at $225 to move it quickly. How the great have fallen. $225 is more than fair imo. Could sell it for $300 on ebay in 1 day if you wanted
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Incredulous Dylan posted:I'm throwing my EVGA 780 ti SC on SA Mart when I get home. Keep forgetting to do it. Thoughts on pricing? I figured I'd just put it at $225 to move it quickly. I'd target it around $250 or $280, those would be very fair prices.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:FYI my hybrid kit shipped today. Did you order the hybrid card or just the kit? Kit, via Amazon. Still showing backordered. Jerks.
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:How the great have fallen. $225 is more than fair imo. Could sell it for $300 on ebay in 1 day if you wanted Sold my 780ti for $360 on ebay in a day
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Subjunctive posted:Kit, via Amazon. Still showing backordered. Jerks. 
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Wish corsair would release the h980. Want some h80igt's on mine
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Subjunctive posted:Multi-monitor is great. You can size one for the gaming experience you want, and stick another beside it to get more text/desktop real-estate. Surround gaming, mind, is definitely a gimmick. Just go 21:9. Noooooooooope. I've been using triple screen for going on 5 years and I'll never go back. Love me some surround screens.
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Ozz81 posted:I don't think they released in the wrong order, as there should have been more R/D into not having that 4GB limit on HBM. I wonder though, and maybe it's already been brought up - could AMD theoretically pair its HBM with additional GDDR5 on the board? Would that cripple the card, be too expensive or just be something that's not possible to do with current tech? I'd be interested to see if it's a possibility, AMD has been using wider buses for a while on their high-end cards (384 and 512 bit) but wasn't sure if HBM could be compatible with, say, an additional 2-4GB GDDR5 running a 512-bit bus to take away high-res limitations. Course that's also in a world where AMD doesn't puff it up things out of proportion or blow it with the hardware or drivers 
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AMD Should have put 4gb HBM on a lower end card to get price down and then put 8gb gddr5 on the fury x since the extra bandwidth of hbm really isn't needed right now.
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Don Lapre posted:Wish corsair would release the h980. Want some h80igt's on mine I have a Corsair CLC that was gifted to me waiting on that version of the HG10 myself, it's got the square water block so I'm SOL until this happens too Even better is if someone releases a bracket that can fit onto a non-reference card so I'm not tempted to ditch this CLC on ebay and do The Mod myself. I can dream
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I have a Corsair CLC that was gifted to me waiting on that version of the HG10 myself, it's got the square water block so I'm SOL until this happens too Supposed to be in august and honestly the ref blowers dont even bother me too much. i dont even notice them when playing games.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:That is unfortunate. Got a trip report yet? Mine's not being delivered until Tuesday, although I did get my EVGA 980 Ti backplate yesterday!
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Now I'm seeing some people desperately saying that reviewers "used the wrong drivers" for the Fury X or something. Isn't that a factor that AMD would have been prepared for and given them like, super explicit instructions on?
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So after seeing the reviews of the Fury X yesterday, I noticed that the MSI 6g was in stock at newegg. I ordered it with overnight shipping, got it today, and stuck it right in my machine.  My computer is less than pretty on the inside. Shot didn't turn out so well due to a lack of light inside the case.  It crushes my old 760 into the dust. I can witcher 3 with settings cranked up at 1440p with an fps in the 60s, rather than 30-35 fps at medium settings with my old card. Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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beejay posted:Now I'm seeing some people desperately saying that reviewers "used the wrong drivers" for the Fury X or something. Isn't that a factor that AMD would have been prepared for and given them like, super explicit instructions on? its literally like one reviewer used 15.15.3940293 and another used 15.15.3940384 edit: Children should not be allowed to buy video cards Stupid gently caress wants Newegg to give him a lifetime warranty cause XFX changed it to 2 years. http://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/3b34uh/xfx_cancels_lifetime_warranty_support_program_r9/ Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Parker Lewis posted:Got a trip report yet?
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