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Also this Voyager episode was Inception before Inception, pretty cool. "Waking Moments" goes on the short list of good Voyager episodes.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:32
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Entropic posted:That klingon guy shouting shakespeare quotes is way more utterly stupid on rewatch than I remembered it being as a kid. it owns because it gets shatner mad as hell.
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Tighclops posted:Yeah it is, the Enterprise is a character and she got the reintroduction she rightly deserved. TMP took it's pacing a bit far in places and yeah, it's something you gotta be in the mood for (It's a shame the Director's Cut was only ever rendered in SD, it tightens things up) but I prefer it and it's flaws to the modern style of having no pacing at all and the story being a lame excuse to get to the next CGI setpiece. The uniforms themselves were okay, but that god drat flap always drove me crazy. What kind of fuckarded moron came up with that poo poo. There's nothing actually casual or dressed down about undoing that stupid flap, it's just as tight and normal as before, except not you have an extra white piece of cloth flapping around on your chest, presumably so that when the chief engineer carries a corpse the length of the ship from engineering to the bridge for dramatic purposes, you can get blood on it I guess?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I'm not even sure it was so much of an inside joke (except maybe only between Shatner and Plummer) as it was the director being a huge fan of old British actors and giggling with glee at being able to film one really chewing the scenery with his favorite Shakespeare quotes. I think it was the ST:VI Blue Ray that had Nicholas Meyer saying he had heard about the story, and like you said, jumped at the chance to do it. He also said that when he got ST:II he wanted to turn it into "British Navy in Space", and tried to throw in as much Navy stuff as he could, (uniform changes, "running out the guns", boarding whistles, burial at sea, etc.). He also said that he saw Kirk as Horatio Hornblower, and used every bit of creative control he had to make it STII: Master and Commander. Mr. Horrible posted:I really disliked most of that movie tbh. Knockoff Khan and Whose Shoes Are They Anyway in particular. But I enjoyed the beginning and the ending, as well as the fact that it was so optimistic about the future. No more war with the Klingons! I honestly don't know what to say. It's tied for ST:II as the best trek in my book.
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Blistex posted:I think it was the ST:VI Blue Ray that had Nicholas Meyer saying he had heard about the story, and like you said, jumped at the chance to do it. He also said that when he got ST:II he wanted to turn it into "British Navy in Space", and tried to throw in as much Navy stuff as he could, (uniform changes, "running out the guns", boarding whistles, burial at sea, etc.). He also said that he saw Kirk as Horatio Hornblower, and used every bit of creative control he had to make it STII: Master and Commander. This explains why all Starfleet issue shuttles can access and play Gilbert and Sullivan with only three button presses.
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Jun 27, 2015 03:25
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counterfeitsaint posted:This explains why all Starfleet issue shuttles can access and play Gilbert and Sullivan with only three button presses. Everyone who complains about this has a device capable of doing exactly that within arms reach right now. Two presses if they spend a moment to configure it first.
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Jun 27, 2015 03:30
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shadow puppet of a posted:Everyone who complains about this has a device capable of doing exactly that within arms reach right now. Two presses if they spend a moment to configure it first. i could do it with one and a voice command E: or depending on what im doing, just a voice command
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Jun 27, 2015 03:55
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counterfeitsaint posted:The uniforms themselves were okay, but that god drat flap always drove me crazy. What kind of fuckarded moron came up with that poo poo. There's nothing actually casual or dressed down about undoing that stupid flap, it's just as tight and normal as before, except not you have an extra white piece of cloth flapping around on your chest, presumably so that when the chief engineer carries a corpse the length of the ship from engineering to the bridge for dramatic purposes, you can get blood on it I guess? They're just ugly, they look good on no one, no one is differentiated. You could make the same case about actual military uniforms to be sure, but Star Trek isn't about the actual military it's about color coded spacemen doing spaceman poo poo. The loss of the TOS uniform style used to bug me no end about TNG-era Trek, but at least they kept the color coding. and just when I was getting used to it they switch to the weird quilted purple shouldered ones. Whatever. TMP tried something different, a kind of monochrome, Forbidden Planet look, and there's at least a little bit of variation among them, that's good enough for me.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:01
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If you were to own a screen accurate TMP uniform, you would literally need an assistant to pee and or poop out of it There are bad and beige, although the admiral's variant was good enough to get a version of it remade for the new movies but I think they gave it a proper belt and fly I really hate beige, for something for so much beige in it I seem to really like Star Trek a lot anyway somehow
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Tighclops posted:If you were to own a screen accurate TMP uniform, you would literally need an assistant to pee and or poop out of it if i was in star trek i'd still be a goon so i'd just poo poo my uniform
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Jun 27, 2015 04:16
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You know what'd be really great, you could eat a tone of future space doritos so you get constipated and then have the computer lock onto the fecal block with the transporter and beam it directly into the romulan commander's mouth just as your captain is in the middle of an impassioned speech to prevent a war
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Jun 27, 2015 04:19
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Tighclops posted:You know what'd be really great, you could eat a tone of future space doritos so you get constipated and then have the computer lock onto the fecal block with the transporter and beam it directly into the romulan commander's mouth just as your captain is in the middle of an impassioned speech to prevent a war that feel when you gently caress up the transporter coordinates and accidentally beam the turd into his brain he was a..poo'taq
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Jun 27, 2015 04:21
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Fetus Tree posted:that feel when you gently caress up the transporter coordinates and accidentally beam the turd into his brain At least when you die that way you get a free pass to spend the afterlife in Stool'vo'kor.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:28
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Fetus Tree posted:that feel when you gently caress up the transporter coordinates and accidentally beam the turd into his brain Then a blind guy puts on his VISOR and mutters cooly "what a poo poo for brains" before walking out of the frame YEAAAAAAA
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Powered Descent posted:At least when you die that way you get a free pass to spend the afterlife in Stool'vo'kor. Wielding your shat'leth, wiping out cling-ons by the fistfull.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:19
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Christopher Lloyd is the best Klingon and the best Human in the real world!
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AdvancesMONKEY posted:Christopher Lloyd is the best Klingon and the best Human in the real world! When was he on the real world? 
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Angela Christine posted:When was he on the real world? I would pay a lot of money to see Christopher Lloyd on The Real World.
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Blistex posted:All of the Shakespeare stuff was a huge inside joke about Shatner and Plummer. This is beyond wonderful.
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Fetus Tree posted:plummer doing shakespear poo poo in star trek as a klingon actually owns I was fine with it, but what the hell were they talking about with that 'Original Klingon Shakespeare' line? Even when I was 8 years old that was weird as hell.
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Pneub posted:I was fine with it, but what the hell were they talking about with that 'Original Klingon Shakespeare' line? Even when I was 8 years old that was weird as hell. Shakespeare was Klingon originally, history is fuzzy, but I'm assuming he took refuge on earth for whatever reason and spread the word. Or more likely, Klingons are full of poo poo and just want to steal a part of history.
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My wife and I started watching TNG and we're about halfway through the third season This show was written by the dumbest loving people, it's hilarious how many enormous plot holes appear in just about every episode. And then they try to act all enlightened and poo poo and then BAM racist Irish stereotypes show up and Picard is like "I don't know what to do with all of these dumb drunk Irish and their whore women!" poo poo's hilarious
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Figaro posted:http://www.lcarscom.net/rdm1000118.htm This is best encapsulated by that video showing all the irreplaceable photon torpedoes being fired.
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QuarkJets posted:This show was written by the dumbest loving people, it's hilarious how many enormous plot holes appear in just about every episode. Watch it once the agitation of constantly ignored obvious solutions threatens to derail your marathon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs
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Pneub posted:I was fine with it, but what the hell were they talking about with that 'Original Klingon Shakespeare' line? Even when I was 8 years old that was weird as hell. Basically they thought Shakespeare wrote such badass poo poo that he couldn't have been a human, although I think it's not meant literally, but more mockingly.
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Pneub posted:I was fine with it, but what the hell were they talking about with that 'Original Klingon Shakespeare' line? Even when I was 8 years old that was weird as hell. what? they did it to piss off kirk. how can you not see this? is it a trick question?
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Tighclops posted:Basically they thought Shakespeare wrote such badass poo poo that he couldn't have been a human, although I think it's not meant literally, but more mockingly. look at shatner's reaction. thats the whole point. did you all turn into data overnight or something?
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It looks like everyone's over-thinking it in several directions. Goddamnit Chang.
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QuarkJets posted:This show was written by the dumbest loving people, it's hilarious how many enormous plot holes appear in just about every episode. They also predicted Stargate Universe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAgODVbPq78 Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDlez_5_sc4 Edit: They also had a guy complaining about apples being on an alien planet, and then somebody tells them they all speak English so who cares? And then they talk about the scene where somebody can walk through walls and they can't figure out why they don't fall through the floor. Yaos fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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Tighclops posted:Basically they thought Shakespeare wrote such badass poo poo that he couldn't have been a human, although I think it's not meant literally, but more mockingly. It's also a reference to the Nazis' attempts to claim Shakespeare was actually German. I think the Soviets also tried to say he was a socialist before it was even a thing.
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Tighclops posted:What the gently caress I knew a couple of guys called Keegan growing up. Still a stupid name.
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shadow puppet of a posted:There is a youtube video that shows how the writers used Worf as a garbage disposal for sound ideas. 
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opus111 posted:what? they did it to piss off kirk. how can you not see this? is it a trick question? opus111 posted:look at shatner's reaction. thats the whole point. There are too many Star Wars EU fans in here. Every line and throw-away joke has to have some sort of hilariously improbably backstory that lets the autistic fans take it exactly at face value instead of using their brains.
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Hey ST thread, be kind and honest with me: is sto worth any time spent on it at all to get more expanded universe story? Please note I am a grown adult with no patience for grinding. I'm sure I've just answered my own question...
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Zigmidge posted:Hey ST thread, be kind and honest with me: is sto worth any time spent on it at all to get more expanded universe story? Please note I am a grown adult with no patience for grinding. I'm sure I've just answered my own question... Star Trek doesn't really have an "expanded universe" the way that Star Wars That doesn't stop some of the novels from being surprisingly good (or many more from being predictably bad) but don't expect things to all fit together into a single universe. e: What I'm really saying is go find Dreadnought! and its sequel Battlestations! by Diane Carey. Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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It's just a Klingon verson of that poo poo Chekov always did where everything was actually Russian
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gently caress no I won't do that. I just wanted to know about the video game's story vs its grind factor, brah.
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Zigmidge posted:Hey ST thread, be kind and honest with me: is sto worth any time spent on it at all to get more expanded universe story? Please note I am a grown adult with no patience for grinding. I'm sure I've just answered my own question... No.
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Zigmidge posted:gently caress no I won't do that. I just wanted to know about the video game's story vs its grind factor, brah. And I totally missed that you were asking about the video game. So, uh... never mind. 
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