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Yeah, titanium fires are completely insane. If memory serves, if you try to pour water on it you get rewarded with an explosion as the fire "pulls" the oxygen out of the water molecules and then rapidly burns off all that hydrogen.
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Jun 30, 2015 13:29
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PantsOptional posted:Yeah, titanium fires are completely insane. If memory serves, if you try to pour water on it you get rewarded with an explosion as the fire "pulls" the oxygen out of the water molecules and then rapidly burns off all that hydrogen. As a powder or in the form of metal shavings, titanium metal poses a significant fire hazard and, when heated in air, an explosion hazard.[89] Water and carbon dioxide–based methods to extinguish fires are ineffective on burning titanium; Class D dry powder fire fighting agents must be used instead.[5] A fire that can't be extinguished by carbon dioxide is scary.
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"Ineffective" may be the understatement of the century right there.
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Jun 30, 2015 13:35
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Wasn't that the 'Armor War' arc where Tony basically went around beating up anyone he so much as thought had power armor based on his design? That was such a great arc. At one point he destroys all the guardsmen suits at a super villain prison, leading to a mass escape. Then he gets beat up by a government built powersuit so he builds a new suit that uses technology he stole from various villains while he was destroying them for using his technology. In the epilogue issue he has a trippy nightmare about all the damage he's done, but he still doesn't recognize his own complicity. It's one my favourite iron man stories, but my copy was washed away in a flood years ago.
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Seldom Posts posted:That was such a great arc. At one point he destroys all the guardsmen suits at a super villain prison, leading to a mass escape. Then he gets beat up by a government built powersuit so he builds a new suit that uses technology he stole from various villains while he was destroying them for using his technology. Also, he beats Stingray (who was working for the government) unconscious only to find out that his suit wasn't using Stark's technology after all, so he was now in Big Trouble. It's a shame they couldn't decide on whether it was called "Stark Wars" or "Armor Wars". Fun guest appearances: he gets Scott Lang to be Ant Man again in order to steal some information for him, and he gets in a fight with Steve Rogers, which was uncomfortable since he had just made him a replacement not-Captain-America shield for Cap's new not-Captain-America identity. Also also, it switched from the not-that-attractive Silver Centurion armor to a much cooler red-and-gold suit that had a force field shield in the left gauntlet. 
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Jun 30, 2015 13:44
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PantsOptional posted:"Ineffective" may be the understatement of the century right there. VIOLENTLY ineffective.
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Say Nothing posted:Storm is basically female Thor, minus the hammer. From the same issue:  Warlock transforms into the USS Enterprise because there wasn't already enough crazy poo poo going on. redbackground fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Jun 30, 2015 15:45
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And given the era it's the Enteprise-Refit/Enterprise-A, King of all Enterprises 
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Kill Six Billion Demons Reach heaven through violence
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Dark Souls 3 lookin' mighty fine.
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Seldom Posts posted:That was such a great arc. At one point he destroys all the guardsmen suits at a super villain prison, leading to a mass escape. Then he gets beat up by a government built powersuit so he builds a new suit that uses technology he stole from various villains while he was destroying them for using his technology. So, was the whole point of the story 'Tony Stark is a worse menace than the 'villains' he fights'? Or is there something I'm missing here?
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FredMSloniker posted:So, was the whole point of the story 'Tony Stark is a worse menace than the 'villains' he fights'? Or is there something I'm missing here? That's one way to look at it. Another might be "don't steal from Tony Stark, because he's a huge dick about that." Actually, both together really sums up Armor Wars quite well. That said, I still enjoyed those issues.
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jng2058 posted:That's one way to look at it. Another might be "don't steal from Tony Stark, because he's a huge dick about that." Well, I was looking more to see if this is what the writers intended, or if they were trying to write him as a hero and failing miserably, or what.
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FredMSloniker posted:Well, I was looking more to see if this is what the writers intended, or if they were trying to write him as a hero and failing miserably, or what. I think it was written as a "what the gently caress hero?" kinda thing. Generally if you come to blows with Captain America you've made some sort of mistake at some point in that chain of events.
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FredMSloniker posted:Well, I was looking more to see if this is what the writers intended, or if they were trying to write him as a hero and failing miserably, or what. Well Captain America comes down on him for going over the top, he gets kicked out of the Avengers for it, and he alienates pretty much everyone except his core friends and allies. So you can argue it's either "Tony decides to make a moral stand about the use of his technology and follows through on it, and drat the consequences" or "Tony freaked the hell out and way over-reacted, nearly destroys his company and loses a lot of respect in the superhero community because of it." Both are in the text and you could argue either angle. After all, destroying all the Guardsman suits, which he sold to the government in the first place, does lead to a massive supervillian jailbreak. Tony did kill the Titanium Man. He did attack Stingray, a fellow Avenger. And Stingray was innocent, that was his own drat tech! On the other hand, his own carelessness, especially after losing Stark Industries to Obidiah Stane, led to a bunch of supervillains using devices Tony built to hurt and kill people. Is Tony justified in using extreme measures, including breaking the law and accidental homicide, in order to clean up his own mess? The books don't really answer that cleanly, one way or the other. You're left to decide if you sympathize with Iron Man, who comes down on the side of personal responsibility or Captain America, who supports the position of law and his government. Huh, didn't they do that again for Civil War, but with the positions completely reversed? Amazing how much of a difference 19 years can make. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Jun 30, 2015 22:46
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Avulsion posted:Kill Six Billion Demons If he/she/the author set up a Kickstarter for a hardback collection of their work so far I'd go loving nuts, this comic is so goddamn good.
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Jun 30, 2015 23:16
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jng2058 posted:Well Captain America comes down on him for going over the top, he gets kicked out of the Avengers for it, and he alienates pretty much everyone except his core friends and allies. It also has the Tony Stark acts in the way that Tony Starks sees is right consequences be damned. Lets not forget that Tony in the middle of the storyline gets some training by Cap as he is planning on attacking the guardsman.
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Avulsion posted:Kill Six Billion Demons This comic has a lot of amazing pages. My favorite is when it was revealed that the seven demiurges were meeting on top of a dead god's skull.
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voting third party posted:This comic has a lot of amazing pages. My favorite is when it was revealed that the seven demiurges were meeting on top of a dead god's skull.    There's a whole lot of badass in K6BD.
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jng2058 posted:Huh, didn't they do that again for Civil War, but with the positions completely reversed? Amazing how much of a difference 19 years can make. I'm fairly sure Stan Lee claims to have conceived Tony Stark, a billionaire industrialist capitalist who built weapons for the government and smashed communists as much as he fought supervillains, as being exactly the kind of character Marvel's "thinking" fans in the 1960s - specifically the university students and counter-culture types - would loathe to see if they'd still buy the comic.
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Which is pretty much my point. When Tony was conceived by Lee, he was a pro-government weapons guy. By the late '80s he'd evolved into a guy who took his weapons back from the government and the government feared him so much that they built a nuke armed suit of armor to try and kill him with. Then by 2006 and Civil War, Tony's cycled around to being so pro-government that he's willing to lead an army of super-heroes to round up other super-heroes who don't want to register with that government! And now, of course, the movie Iron Man is back to an anti-government, "screw you guys I'm keeping my toys" version reminiscent of the '80s Armor Wars Tony in many respects. Just, you know, funnier since he's played by RDjr. It's the Circle of Until it is. 
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Despite the wild inconsistency of how Tony was written during Civil War, his argument has always been that he thinks that registration isn't necessarily right, but that taking a hardline stance against it would end with heroes losing and being placed in camps. So, in his infinite ego, he decided it would be better if he ran the entire system, moral quagmire and all, instead of fighting it. He's not so much pro-government as a coward.
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Lurdiak posted:Despite the wild inconsistency of how Tony was written during Civil War, his argument has always been that he thinks that registration isn't necessarily right, but that taking a hardline stance against it would end with heroes losing and being placed in camps. So, in his infinite ego, he decided it would be better if he ran the entire system, moral quagmire and all, instead of fighting it. I dunno, hadn't Tony just come off a period of time being the U.S. Secretary of Defense? It's pretty pro-government to be IN the government.
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jng2058 posted:I dunno, hadn't Tony just come off a period of time being the U.S. Secretary of Defense? It's pretty pro-government to be IN the government. Tell that to the Republicans.
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Lurdiak posted:Tell that to the Republicans. ....fair point. 
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 What If? Vol 1 #44
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That's still one of my all-time favorite cap moments, right up there with "No, you move."
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Captain Bravo posted:That's still one of my all-time favorite cap moments, right up there with "No, you move." Whenever I see that quote I remember that people like this  are taking his advice, and all of a sudden I don't think it's so awesome anymore. Usually, when the mob and the press and the whole world is telling you to move, it's because you're a god drat rear end in a top hat that's standing in the way.
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Yeah "No you move" is one of my barometers for whether or not a person is a loving moron. If they like it, they're likely more interested in the romance of self-righteousness than applied critical thought.
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In itself it's a good message and it doesn't deserve to be crapped on. e: I mean it's possible to be the voice of dissent and not be this guy 
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I almost feel like I should ban you or something out of principle for making me look at that image. Why do you hate us so much that you'd do something like that?
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"No, you move" is a perfectly fine message, there's nothing wrong with saying that you should have the courage to stand by your beliefs. If anything, the world would be a lot better place with more people following that message, since most of the fucksticks in society are more than happy to dodge and weave around their point when you call them on it. Being willing to stand your ground on an issue you find important goes hand-in-hand with being able to critically evaluate your own position and opinion. Just because stupid, flawed, and rear end in a top hat people take the same advice doesn't make it not good advice.
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Flesh Forge posted:In itself it's a good message and it doesn't deserve to be crapped on. No, you move.
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Peter Gillis was so great and so underappreciated. Here is a badass panel from his Doctor Strange #79 (art by Chris Warner): 
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rotinaj posted:I dunno about you guys, but I totally want a barrel of high octane fuel strapped to my shin in my fighting robot suit, and a miniature particle accelerator apparently strapped to my head. My favorite character cutaways are the Samus one were it shows that she's like 7 feet tall and nearly 200 pounds, and the classic Godzilla one. I'd post em if I wasn't phone posting.
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Rough Lobster posted:My favorite character cutaways are the Samus one were it shows that she's like 7 feet tall and nearly 200 pounds, and the classic Godzilla one. I'd post em if I wasn't phone posting.  Samus is a fuckin' beast and that's awesome.
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If we moved away from the Zero Suit toward a more ripped Samus, I would not complain. And honestly, it's not like nintendo needs another dainty princess.
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 Preacher #46 First thing that hit my mind seeing that guy.
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