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if this savage track played while i was installing gnome i would have lept from my chair in ecstacy. this is major ownage.. with some minor keys 
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operating systems today really are missing the full multimedia experience
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Jul 8, 2015 19:50
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im listening to it again
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Jul 8, 2015 19:51
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it's very canyon.mid, good jerb suspicious dish
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Jul 8, 2015 22:21
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Suspicious Dish posted:Thank you! The initial experience there I actually wrote while I was back at Red Hat. It was my first major project there before Wayland, and it's shipped in GNOME. I was shocked to see them actually using it in Endless. I think you kind of over-extended yourself a bit with the rhythm and harmony weirdness but it's still a really good effort, i like.
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Smythe posted:im the sick midi bassline i already had my friend jack play a real bassline, so i didn't spend as much time cleaning and quantizing up the bass vst, but that isn't in the mix you heard.
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Jul 8, 2015 22:39
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Smythe posted:this is major ownage.. with some minor keys
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Jul 9, 2015 00:40
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the brian eno of linux
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Jul 9, 2015 00:43
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i'm glad you guys like endless_party_b1.mp3
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Jul 9, 2015 01:11
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Suspicious Dish posted:i'm glad you guys like endless_party_b1.mp3 endless_bi_party.mp3 was better but this one is good too
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Jul 9, 2015 01:28
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is it intentional that endless party mp3 is four minutes and twenty seconds long?
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Jul 9, 2015 04:34
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is red hat's satellite/spacewalk thing any good?
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Jul 9, 2015 19:29
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pram posted:the brian eno of linux
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Jul 9, 2015 21:29
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prefect posted:is red hat's satellite/spacewalk thing any good? god no
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Jul 9, 2015 22:04
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prefect posted:is thing any good?
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so how do I tell my Endless to disable tap-to-click? in its Preferences app there aren't any options for the trackpad on the Microsoft All-In-One Media Keyboard that I'm using also, is there any sort of integrated admin/developer guide, so I can see what I need to do to (say) build & install just Linux command-line stuff "the right way" for Endless? my inclination is normally to put each thing in its own directory under /opt but with the OSTree stuff I have no idea how this should be handled. oh, it also doesn't seem to support ssh out of the box and there's no checkbox in Preferences for it, what's the right way for Endless to enable it? I assume it does Bonjour out of the box at least, or would I also have to put some config files in place or even install avahi for that to come up?
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Jul 10, 2015 04:12
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prefect posted:is red hat's satellite/spacewalk thing any good? i think i sort of work on this or at least consume it or something and i have no idea.
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Jul 10, 2015 04:14
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imo any more than 0 system is too many systems and if you have so many systems that you need help versioning them the only solution is to upgrade to 0 systems
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eschaton posted:so how do I tell my Endless to disable tap-to-click? Can you take a screenshot of the Mouse panel? I plugged in an Apple trackpad I had lying around and a Tap-to-Click option comes up here. It's likely the kernel doesn't recognize the touchpad device, which seems silly. Filed an internal bug report about it though. eschaton posted:also, is there any sort of integrated admin/developer guide, so I can see what I need to do to (say) build & install just Linux command-line stuff "the right way" for Endless? my inclination is normally to put each thing in its own directory under /opt but with the OSTree stuff I have no idea how this should be handled. For developers, we have a custom script, "eos-convert-system", which chops off the head of OSTree and turns it back into a Debian system, though the servers that it fetches from might be internal to our VPN. Our current bundle system is really awful, but basically all the apps from the app store get put in /endless, which is a custom overlayfs thing. It's really bad. We have a few "SDK / developer" projects in process, but basically, right now, we're not supporting third-party developers. xdg-app and xdg-app-based-development will be our primary "hardcore" SDK, but the short-term SDK we want to release is to have a simplified app builder that builds on top of our existing knowledge app platform. I can't speak about it too much, but this is a project I'm working on. eschaton posted:oh, it also doesn't seem to support ssh out of the box and there's no checkbox in Preferences for it, what's the right way for Endless to enable it? I assume it does Bonjour out of the box at least, or would I also have to put some config files in place or even install avahi for that to come up? Avahi should just work out of the box. We do install an ssh server by default now, though I think that's in the 2.4 branch only. When we release 2.4 and you update to it, you should have a section called "Remote Login" in the Sharing panel of the Settings app.
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pram posted:god no dammit 
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Suspicious Dish posted:Can you take a screenshot of the Mouse panel? I plugged in an Apple trackpad I had lying around and a Tap-to-Click option comes up here. It's likely the kernel doesn't recognize the touchpad device, which seems silly. here's the panel, it's p clearly just the mouse panel  here's the output of lsusb --verbose on my Endless, if there's something I need to do to get more detail just let me know the Microsoft keyboard looks like it shows up as a trio of HI devices via its wireless dongle: boot-protocol keyboard, boot-protocol mouse, and unknown. I presume the "unknown" may be "trackpad qua trackpad" or something like that quote:We have a few "SDK / developer" projects in process, but basically, right now, we're not supporting third-party developers. xdg-app and xdg-app-based-development will be our primary "hardcore" SDK, but the short-term SDK we want to release is to have a simplified app builder that builds on top of our existing knowledge app platform. I can't speak about it too much, but this is a project I'm working on. ah, OK, I wasn't expecting to really do "app" development, just to get basics like sbcl running by installing the stock binary and then building from source I'll take a look at the OSTree docs and see if there's some way I can easily customize that to add a local /opt without breaking the Endless OS itself is there some sort of "system-restore" procedure possible, like an image to put on a USB key to boot from? quote:Avahi should just work out of the box. We do install an ssh server by default now, though I think that's in the 2.4 branch only. When we release 2.4 and you update to it, you should have a section called "Remote Login" in the Sharing panel of the Settings app. cool, looking forward to it
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eschaton posted:is there some sort of "system-restore" procedure possible, like an image to put on a USB key to boot from? If you PM me I can give you an image. That said, root is mounted ro, and if you really gently caress up badly, a reboot should solve it. As long as you don't touch anything in /sysroot/ostree (I think that's where it is?), you should be fine.
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eschaton posted:basics like sbcl
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prefect posted:is red hat's satellite/spacewalk thing any good? it's really, really bad. it is very, very obvious that it is derived from the red hat network codebase. it's obsessed with multitenancy stuff that practically no one needs, and handles the basics pretty poorly. they've been saying they're going to replace satellite with a grand sweeping vision of configuration management and deployment and about six other things, but that poo poo is itself in permanent beta: http://www.katello.org/. it's puppet + foreman + pulp + some other stuff. i wouldn't hold my breath for katello / new-satellite to be production-ready
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prefect posted:dammit what were you hoping to accomplish w/ satellite?
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yeah. we (Red Hat) were going to replace it with Project Aeolus / Cloud Engine / Systems Engine, which was built as "CloudForms 1.0", but that got cancelled. We then bought a company called ManageIQ, which we rebranded into CloudForms 2.0, and then the open-source part as ManageIQ. My understanding is that while Cloud Engine was cancelled, Systems Engine was folded back into the Satellite team and is still being built. http://www.redhat.com/summit/2011/presentations/summit/whats_next/thursday/summit-2011.warner_sanders_t_1400_future_of_satellite-v5.pdf That presentation is still mostly accurate. Entitlement and Subscription Management is done through Candlepin. Content and Repository Management is done through Pulp. Provisioning is done through Foreman. Combining the last two is Katello.
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Anyone else prefer the cygwin terminal to putty for remote linuxing on windows? It's the only good use I've found for that POS.
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Wintering Stinkbug posted:Anyone else prefer the cygwin terminal to putty for remote linuxing on windows? It's the only good use I've found for that POS. I do. I've been using it all the time, cygwin got a lot more stable in the last few years. it crashes hard only once per week now.
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cygwin, now thats a name i haven5 heard in a great many years. honestly surprised that its limped its way into this decade
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pram posted:buy a mac rule 32 or whatever.
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Symbolic Butt posted:I do. I've been using it all the time, cygwin got a lot more stable in the last few years. it crashes hard only once per week now. I have a headless vbox VM that starts at boot. I prefer to shell into that with the cygwin terminal vs using the cygwin utilities themselves.
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Wintering Stinkbug posted:I have a headless vbox VM that starts at boot. I prefer to shell into that with the cygwin terminal vs using the cygwin utilities themselves. just run your virtualbox vm full screen, then you can have a linux desktop and not touch lovely windows
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i am now posting from kde 5 they added a cute kwin script to un-gently caress GTK applications and stop them from barfing client-side shadows on everything 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:just run your virtualbox vm full screen, then you can have a linux desktop and not touch lovely windows lol, using linux for a desktop. I'm pretty platform agnostic. I use a fairly specific set of OSS that runs fine on Windows/Linux/OSX. I've run into very few cross platform problems with python, and I rarely touch C/C++ anymore. I don't have anything against the guts of windows. My dream OS would have a windows base so my games/propreitary software would run without hassle, a posix compliant shell environment, and KDE for the desktop environment. I want the worst of all worlds. No one without autism cares about software freedom.
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Wintering Stinkbug posted:No one without autism cares about software freedom. you could not be more wrong software freedom is sweeping the industry, destroying all in its wake
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meanwhile, in gnome land, they decided to just quietly break theme engines one day https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735211 quote:As for oxygen-gtk in particular, I'm actually happy that it's stopped working because its codebase has been explicitly violating the contract for theming engines since its inception. i broke your app AND i'm happy about it
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:meanwhile, in gnome land, they decided to just quietly break theme engines one day breaking gnome apps is the lord's work
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you could not be more wrong Uh, yeah. Because the industry realized they could get free labor that way.
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Wintering Stinkbug posted:Uh, yeah. Because the industry realized they could get free labor that way. no, commercial users still have to employ armies of software developers and systems administrators to develop, deploy, maintain open source software they just don't have to provide larry ellison with a handsome profit on top of all those salaries
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