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The Pitt's environment design is great, you walk into the blast furnace and it actually feels hot and oppressive. The whole dlc has this good grungy feel that I love. Not a huge fan of the main plot, I think it's even more one-sided than HH but eh. But my biggest complaint is that I wish it were bigger. More arena fights, more relevant NPCs (the various named raiders own), actual sidequests, more steel ingots. Hell make the whole thing the size of Point Lookout. Let me run around on catwalks and smokestacks for days. Ah well, I guess they could do a "Return to the Pitt" dlc in fo4.
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The FO3 DLCs feel extremely lacking compared to other Bethesda DLCs from their other series, like Dawnguard, Dragonborn and Shivering Isles. I think Point Lookout got it the closest, while The Pitt had great atmosphere, but a complete lack of content sort of hurts. I still cannot fathom how they thought Mothership Zeta was a good idea. It's boring samey corridors filled with two types of uninteresting enemy (even Anchorage had the guys who went invisible, and the two giant tanks), very little in the way of loot, no real benefit to exploration aside from the alien logs. I guess the only upside would be that the characters you interacted with were okay by FO3 standards.
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Jul 19, 2015 18:58
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Yeah, honesty the Pitt nails the aesthetic so much better than anything else in F3 it's a shame that it's as short as it is. I actually liked that the 'evil' choice was the right one, though. It's the closest thing to a self-sustaining industrialized society we see in F3, and it's actually debatable whether or not such a thing is worth a few decades of forced labor (when the alternative is another lovely ruin being picked over by scavengers like the Capital Wasteland). It also has the best Mad Max-style post-apoc raider gear in both games. Of all the assets NV reused it's a shame they didn't throw those armors in with the generic raider stuff the fiends were wearing.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:34
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The cut down leather armor looks cool as hell, and the unique version you get with ingots is about as good as Combat Armor. Too bad it breaks in a stiff breeze. Also, I know Ashur keeps saying that the whole slavery thing is temporary, but I don't think the raiders would agree. After all they're living pretty cushy lives thanks to that slave labor, why the hell would they give that up? And at the end of the day, he's just one dude in hosed up power armor vs. a whole bunch of Mad Max extras. And if he armed the slaves to fight the raiders or something, there's a good chance they'd kill him too. I mean, if a guy who enslaved me in a shithole like the Pitt handed me a gun, I know he'd be the first person I'd shoot.
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NotALizardman posted:Also, I know Ashur keeps saying that the whole slavery thing is temporary, but I don't think the raiders would agree. After all they're living pretty cushy lives thanks to that slave labor, why the hell would they give that up? And at the end of the day, he's just one dude in hosed up power armor vs. a whole bunch of Mad Max extras. And if he armed the slaves to fight the raiders or something, there's a good chance they'd kill him too. I mean, if a guy who enslaved me in a shithole like the Pitt handed me a gun, I know he'd be the first person I'd shoot. Which does make siding with Ashur in-game pretty appealing, since that reign won't last after the cure is found. It never seemed like the slaves were properly equipped to stage a revolt when the player visits. Also you don't have to kidnap babies.
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Jul 19, 2015 22:06
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I never talked to any of the named Pitt raiders because I killed the first one I could, took his stuff and hit behind the first open door I could find (Midea's apartment) then killed them one by one as they followed me in. Rule 1 of Fallout: No questions asked, slavers die. I can't play any other way.
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Jul 20, 2015 03:11
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Wolfsheim posted:It also has the best Mad Max-style post-apoc raider gear in both games. Of all the assets NV reused it's a shame they didn't throw those armors in with the generic raider stuff the fiends were wearing. Actually I'm pretty sure Reinforced Metal Armor uses the same model as the Gamma Shield Armor from The Pitt.
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Tokelau All Star posted:I never talked to any of the named Pitt raiders because I killed the first one I could, took his stuff and hit behind the first open door I could find (Midea's apartment) then killed them one by one as they followed me in. Rule 1 of Fallout: No questions asked, slavers die. I can't play any other way. Hey, they all die eventually if you side with the slaves anyway. It's part of what makes the choice sit ill at ease: you have to take a child away from its loving parents to a lovely hole where it's seen as a science experiment first and a person second, and then you have to unleash horrible zombies on those parents who at least MEAN well. And that's the good choice! Siding with the Slavers is no better, because no amount of CHA and Speech will convince the man to stop using slave labor for the "greater good". I just wish the area didn't have such terrible memory leaks. I swear I must have crashed 30 times.
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Jul 20, 2015 03:59
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Man, what? Apparently, because I took the smarter route when interrogating Silus, I don't get to tell people that Caesar is sick? That is some BS. Is there some kinda save editor I can use to flip that switch? I wanna get the best ending to Return to Sender.
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Jul 20, 2015 05:29
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Lurdiak posted:Man, what? Apparently, because I took the smarter route when interrogating Silus, I don't get to tell people that Caesar is sick? That is some BS. Is there some kinda save editor I can use to flip that switch? I wanna get the best ending to Return to Sender. Well, there is one more option: gently caress waiting for cancer, take out Caeser yourself. 
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Jul 20, 2015 05:33
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I finished OWB and literally did everything possible in that. Though Its kinda annoying if you upgrade the cyberdog gun with its mods, then turn it into fido. You lose the mods and can't buy them again.
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Jul 20, 2015 08:21
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Hmmm. I just went to talk to Mr. House and he made me give him a platinum chip, which I did not have on me, to him, and used it to upgrade his securitrons. Should I be reloading a previous save if I don't plan to side with him in the end?
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Jul 20, 2015 10:08
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Lurdiak posted:Hmmm. I just went to talk to Mr. House and he made me give him a platinum chip, which I did not have on me, to him, and used it to upgrade his securitrons. Should I be reloading a previous save if I don't plan to side with him in the end? It doesn't matter.
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Jul 20, 2015 10:52
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Lurdiak posted:Hmmm. I just went to talk to Mr. House and he made me give him a platinum chip, which I did not have on me, to him, and used it to upgrade his securitrons. Should I be reloading a previous save if I don't plan to side with him in the end?
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Jul 20, 2015 12:04
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Well, there is one more option: gently caress waiting for cancer, take out Caeser yourself. This is the correct answer.  Lurdiak posted:Should I be reloading a previous save if I don't plan to side with him in the end? You'll be able to run almost to the end of the game before committing to one of the main storylines, and the longer you delay, the more you can set things up to give the best endings.
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Jul 20, 2015 18:27
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I always gib the poo poo out of Caeser and then scream MCNUTTY SENDS HIS REGARDS!!!!!!!
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Jul 20, 2015 19:36
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Gyshall posted:I always gib the poo poo out of Caeser and then scream JOSHUA SENDS HIS REGARDS!!!!!!! fixed to be more applicable to me.
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Jul 20, 2015 20:37
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I started my current play through intending to use guns and explosives. I hit OWB and that's not cutting it (didn't bring enough bombs). Most of the skillsi want use and plenty high so I'm thinking about picking up energy or melee weapons. I always use energy when I play FO games, but this proton axe and saturite fist in OWB are pretty rad. Are there any really cool energy weapons to pick up in OWB? I'm really torn on this decision. My ammo seems to always be tight, I have thousands of energy ammo stockpiled, but melee doesn't use any ammo. Can anyone make a case for energy or melee? My general play style is moving quickly with fast weapon swap and skills that boost bullet time.
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twistedmentat posted:I finished OWB and literally did everything possible in that. Though Its kinda annoying if you upgrade the cyberdog gun with its mods, then turn it into fido. You lose the mods and can't buy them again. There should be a second Cyberdog gun in X-12. You can upgrade that one to FIDO and mod the one you get at the start of OWB, or vice versa.
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Or, if you're like me, you can use one to repair the other and not notice till like an hour later 
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Wildtortilla posted:Are there any really cool energy weapons to pick up in OWB? Elijah's LAER is one of the best energy weapons in the game. Just make sure you have plenty of repair kits.
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I think if you wait for the Sink store to reset you can buy the cyberdog mods again.
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Garrand posted:Or, if you're like me, you can use one to repair the other and not notice till like an hour later That's what I did as well. I love the LAER, but it can only fire about 6 shots before its below optimal quality. Bremen posted:I think if you wait for the Sink store to reset you can buy the cyberdog mods again. That's good!
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Wildtortilla posted:I always use energy when I play FO games, but this proton axe and saturite fist in OWB are pretty rad.
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Jesus christ, repairing equipment should not be this expensive. 9000 goddamn caps.
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Thats why you go for the Jury Rigging Perk and buy/loot cheap guns to repair the expensive unique guns.
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Elijah's LAER is awesome but yeah it degrades quickly. Use it to battle the X-42 Robo-Scorpion the fun way! If anyone is tired of the main game + dlcs I highly recommend New Vegas Bounties I and II. II adds some pretty sweet new areas to battle through and makes use of existing areas well that didn't play a role in the main game. Crashes a lot on fast travel though.
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Jury Rigging is literally the most overpowered perk, and will lead you to having more cash than the rest of the two wastelands combined, The other most overpowered perk is "Them's Good Eating" aka "each body spawns several hundred caps of free loot"
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gently caress repairing things anyway, so annoying 
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LionYeti posted:Thats why you go for the Jury Rigging Perk and buy/loot cheap guns to repair the expensive unique guns. And if that's not enough, the excellent (goon-made?) Signature Armour/Weapons mod lets you repair items with scrap.
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frajaq posted:gently caress repairing things anyway, so annoying I'm too autistic to tolerate un-rapired items. Sadly the game is broken and unable to stack manually repaired items properly.
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Pick up high level weapons off dead legion hit squads, use free weapon repair kits from the sierra madre bunker, swim in caps. You can make like 15000+ from each hit squad.
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Yeah if you aren't planning on putting points in repair, blowing all your winnings from the Sierra Madre on a thousand WRKs is a good investment.
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Alain Post posted:Yeah if you aren't planning on putting points in repair, blowing all your winnings from the Sierra Madre on a thousand WRKs is a good investment. I've never liked that whole getting tons of money from the end of dead money thing. It goes against one of the main themes of the dlc which is, you can't have everything and even if you try you will hurt yourself or the people you care about.
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Killing Caesar's always a good test of your character's mettle, apparently his tent entourage contains just enough people to pose a challenge to the average Courier. Not that great of a challenge, but I typically die on a first attempt and have to reload and prepare myself the next time. So the Courier's about as tough and deadly as eight fully-trained soldiers with Ballistic Fists.
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Alain Post posted:blowing all your winnings from the Sierra Madre The gold bars in the vault are a pittance compared to the miracle of the complementary voucher.
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Wildtortilla posted:I started my current play through intending to use guns and explosives. I hit OWB and that's not cutting it (didn't bring enough bombs). Most of the skillsi want use and plenty high so I'm thinking about picking up energy or melee weapons. Mad bomber, mfc grenades.
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steinrokkan posted:Your winnings should be literally infinite. There's no way of blowing them on something. it's not the base game, but jsawyer (which I use) does nerf the voucher pretty hard IIRC.
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Alain Post posted:it's not the base game, but jsawyer (which I use) does nerf the voucher pretty hard IIRC. Yeah you only get 125 chips instead of the 1000 chip voucher...which isn't really that bad considering you can literally craft Sierra madre chips with common components and you can still exchange clothes and cigarettes for chips.
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1000? I thought it was 200, that's what I get from it unless that's either due to a mod or I messed something up during my latest playthrough of DM.
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