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Snak posted:Not soon, I hope. Maybe there should be a whole seperate "Witcher 3 SPOILERS" thread? I know that myself and several other people here are still on their first playthrough... Like the Mass Effect 3 spoilers thread? I like that idea. Witcher 3 is certainly long enough that people will likely being doing their first playthrough for some time.
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Snak posted:Speaking of viper school... is there any viper school armor? or is it just the two swords? Just the two low level swords. Which is a shame because just at the time you start liking them, you lose them. I really wish I had put the bleeding glyph on my swords earlier. I purposely avoided it for a while because I wanted to do it "right", but I was holding on to a ton of greater glyphs by the end. Burning, Bleeding, Sign Intensity. 
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Jul 21, 2015 18:37
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Yeah I'd be behind someone making a TW3 spoilers thread.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:39
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A spoilers thread would be nice I guess but idk that there's enough chat to necessitate two threads. Also half the spoilers don't give any clue as to what they spoil so you don't know what it's going to be until you've clicked which kind of defeats the point.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:44
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There's no point in two threads. Let's just try to be better about detailing what you're spoiling when you tag something.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:45
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Spoiler: Geralt fucks people.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:51
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Spoiler tagging stuff is annoying enough without having to carefully categorize your spoiler. I put "ending" or not but that's about it, and usually I just spoiler the whole post if something is questionable. I think that inconsistent is probably the best you're gonna get if that's the policy. I don't feel strongly either way about a spoiler thread but I doubt this one is going to change from the status quo.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:54
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The Sharmat posted:I can't believe that it would work out that well for world despite what the ending slides inform you. Ciri herself would be miserable on top of that. Plus it's kind of the most nonsensical ending from a writing perspective. The nobles and merchant guilds are mad at Emhyr...but they accept his half-Nordling daughter who has never even been to Nilgaard proper and is advised by a Nordling sorceress most famous for having at least two kings assassinated? Also Geralt and Yennefer are perfectly happy abandoning Ciri to Philippa and Emhyr and Voorhees? ending talk: Way I see it it all ties up with trusting Ciri to make her own decisions and that she can handle what's coming without Geralt holding her hand. All the "right" decisions towards the good ending emphasize this. I didn't get any hidden agenda from Emhyr's offer and I don't envision Voorhees having any issues with serving under a super powerful empress, since he seems to be all about Nilfgard. I don't think nobles can do poo poo against a woman who has time&space travel abilities either. Also I don't really think Ciri would be "miserable", it's obvious she'll miss adventuring with Geralt, but I'd say she knows too it's the choice she has to make. I dislike using "For greater good" but I felt she also realized her abilities could and should be used for to benefit as many as possible. But like I said your points are valid too, it all comes down to perspective.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:03
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Ending chat: If you trust Ciri to make her own decisions she has no interest in meeting Emhyr so that ending never happens. Being an Empress is a miserable job that is completely counter to everything Ciri is shown to have wanted, and she'd probably hate the kinds of things she'd have to do (or more realistically, order others to do), to be effective.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:30
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Azazell0 posted:ending talk: more ending chat I felt like Ciri becoming a witcher or Empress were both equally good outcomes, her dying obviously bad. Ciri seems genuinely happy witchering and I think that's the better option for her personally, but Empress is better for the game world. It's pretty cool that despite her being the Kwisatz Haderach, you can have a good ending without necessarily saving the world as Empress. It was posted but this sums up a lot of my feelings on the writing and plot overall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkIKbTiuJ9A The actual main plot is really generic and wasn't that compelling for me. Find Ciri and protect her from the Wild Hunt. The plot serves to move you from scene/vignette/dialog sequence to the next, which works fantastically in the open-world setting.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:32
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This was a much closer, more personal plot than the previous game, or most games in general have. You really have to care about the characters to give a gently caress because the emphasis on the stakes is more on whether or not Geralt saves his daughter than "Save the world from an ancient evil".
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Jul 21, 2015 19:34
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The best ending is obviously the one where Ciri dies beating? fighting? the white frost and Geralt commits suicide by monster. This is the Witcher universe. No one gets a happy ending 
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Jul 21, 2015 19:39
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:The best ending is obviously the one where Ciri dies beating? fighting? the white frost and Geralt commits suicide by monster. This is the Witcher universe. No one gets a happy ending Yen was the leader of the white frost all along, laughs.
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The Sharmat posted:Ending chat: If you trust Ciri to make her own decisions she has no interest in meeting Emhyr so that ending never happens. Being an Empress is a miserable job that is completely counter to everything Ciri is shown to have wanted, and she'd probably hate the kinds of things she'd have to do (or more realistically, order others to do), to be effective. Not really true. If you start that convo by mentioning going to the Emperor instead of heading straight to Velen she will eventually ask for your opinion. If you tell her it's her decision she still asks for your input regardless. In my playthrough Ciri went to see her father entirely by her own free will. Honestly have no clue what you're talking about here. She wants to go straight to Velen because she has no goddamned clue her father has been moving heaven and Earth to find her unless you tell her.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:46
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necrobobsledder posted:If I remember my Scandinavian languages right, doesn't Morkvarg basically mean dark wolf / shadow wolf? Maybe it's supposed to be Myrk in Norwegian? If that's about right, they're doing pretty ok at making up somewhat sensible names. Kinda? Mörkvarg is Swedish for "darkwolf", but the voice actors pronounce it as mor kvarg ("mother cottage cheese").
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Jul 21, 2015 19:50
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Whoa. Wife Turds posted:Not really true. If you start that convo by mentioning going to the Emperor instead of heading straight to Velen she will eventually ask for your opinion. If you tell her it's her decision she still asks for your input regardless. In my playthrough Ciri went to see her father entirely by her own free will. Honestly have no clue what you're talking about here. She wants to go straight to Velen because she has no goddamned clue her father has been moving heaven and Earth to find her unless you tell her. Meeting Ehmyr w/Ciri I'm so glad I didn't take the coin, but I immediately watched the video on YouTube afterwards and what a loving dick he is. I guarantee he told the dude to count it out slowly too. And just Geralt cupping his hands and just looking like a giant tool.....
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Whoa. Wife Turds posted:Not really true. If you start that convo by mentioning going to the Emperor instead of heading straight to Velen she will eventually ask for your opinion. If you tell her it's her decision she still asks for your input regardless. In my playthrough Ciri went to see her father entirely by her own free will. Honestly have no clue what you're talking about here. She wants to go straight to Velen because she has no goddamned clue her father has been moving heaven and Earth to find her unless you tell her. So she actually doesn't make a decision, Geralt makes it for her.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:53
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As for why Nilfgaard would accept Ciri: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Nilfgaard is only partially meritocratic, it's still all bloodlines and clans and crap, and Ciri's got the trump card on all of them. She literally has magic blood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8-eiBqri0U
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Jul 21, 2015 19:53
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Doesn't stop them from killing Emhyr. Plus the Elder Blood thing is not widely known at all,even among the upper crust. The Nilfgaardian members of the Lodge had never even heard of it, Francesca Findabair had to fill them in.
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The Sharmat posted:Doesn't stop them from killing Emhyr. Emhyr didn't have the elder blood though?
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Jul 21, 2015 19:56
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If I remember the way it works correctly, to get Ciri Emhyr would have had to be a carrier. He just shows no special abilities because one of the critical genes is sex linked.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:58
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The Sharmat posted:Doesn't stop them from killing Emhyr. Even then... They kill Emhyr because he got them involved in multiple failed wars against the north and it was costing them a fortune in lost trade and was collapsing the economy. I find it plausible that in a system like Nilfgaard's it wouldn't be uncommon for an unpopular (but rightful) figure to step down in favor of a more popular (and still rightful) successor. The only reason he didn't die after the first two failed wars is because in Nilfgaard they value order and stability. Murdering an emperor is a really big deal. Comte de Saint-Germain fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 20:00
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The Sharmat posted:If I remember the way it works correctly, to get Ciri Emhyr would have had to be a carrier. He just shows no special abilities because one of the critical genes is sex linked. I could have sworn it was something that was only carried by the matriarchal line, but the powers themselves skip a generation, so Ciri's mother had it, but couldn't use any of the abilities. Then again, it's been a long time since I read the books.
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More ending chat: Why would Ciri be remotely popular? She's the half Nordling product of a line known for usurpation and incest advised by an extremely unpopular northern Sorceress known for plotting against monarchs. The only thing going for her is Voorhees' family. And they're gonna want Voorhees to rule, not Ciri. Ciri is just a means to get the throne.Crappy Jack posted:I could have sworn it was something that was only carried by the matriarchal line, but the powers themselves skip a generation, so Ciri's mother had it, but couldn't use any of the abilities. Then again, it's been a long time since I read the books. It can "skip a generation" because multiple genes are required to get the full manifestation of abilities, and one of those is sex linked. Ciri's mother, Pavetta, did have some special powers, though her own mother Calanthe did not. Ciri's the only one to have everything the Elven breeding program originally wanted, though.
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The Sharmat posted:More ending chat: Why would Ciri be remotely popular? She's the half Nordling product of a line known for usurpation and incest advised by an extremely unpopular northern Sorceress known for plotting against monarchs. The only thing going for her is Voorhees' family. And they're gonna want Voorhees to rule, not Ciri. Ciri is just a means to get the throne. More popular than Emhyr isn't hard to do. It's far more important that she's got the right titles.
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Crappy Jack posted:I could have sworn it was something that was only carried by the matriarchal line, but the powers themselves skip a generation, so Ciri's mother had it, but couldn't use any of the abilities. Then again, it's been a long time since I read the books. Pavetta definitely uses some powers in A Question of Price.
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Jul 21, 2015 20:06
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I think we can all agree at least that Ending Chat: The worst thing about the non-witcher endings is that they aren't sequel bait.
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Jul 21, 2015 20:22
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The Sharmat posted:I think we can all agree at least that Ending Chat: The worst thing about the non-witcher endings is that they aren't sequel bait. Our story continues as Letho and Eskel travels east over the mountains, to explore nations unknown.
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Jul 21, 2015 20:28
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There's nothing East of those mountains for like a thousand miles but that ant lion boss from Final Fantasy 4.
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Jul 21, 2015 20:30
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pik_d posted:Our story continues as Letho and Eskel travels east over the mountains, to explore nations unknown. I would 100% play as Letho. Re-build the Viper school for real!
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Jul 21, 2015 20:32
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I would 100% play as Letho. Re-build the Viper school for real! And you'd get to use those two short swords, that would be cool
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Jul 21, 2015 20:37
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It would be a lonely game. All of Letho's friends are dead. 
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Jul 21, 2015 20:42
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The Sharmat posted:So she actually doesn't make a decision, Geralt makes it for her. She certainly doesn't make a decision NOT to, which is what you were saying.
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Jul 21, 2015 20:43
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Letho owns and makes me wanna buy W2. Too bad I am a console peasant who for a computer has an iMac instead of a PC.
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The Sharmat posted:It would be a lonely game. All of Letho's friends are dead. No it's cool, Eskel said he was gonna head east as well. They can get into drunken Witcher trouble together.
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The Sharmat posted:It would be a lonely game. All of Letho's friends are dead.  E: Which will inevitably result in them dying in horrible ways. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Whoa. Wife Turds posted:She certainly doesn't make a decision NOT to, which is what you were saying. I'm saying she shows no interest in meeting Emhyr unless Geralt tells her she should.
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One Hundred Monkeys posted:Kinda? Mörkvarg is Swedish for "darkwolf", but the voice actors pronounce it as mor kvarg ("mother cottage cheese"). Seconding/Tripling the vote for a sequel playing as Letho rebuilding the Serpent School
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Jul 21, 2015 20:52
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I'm really not sure why they would do a sequel with an existing character that isn't Ciri.
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The sequel will be nothing but flashbacks to previous times Geralt, Lambert, and Eskel got drunk together. It will be a better game than The Witcher 3.
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