smg77 posted:

At what point do the real powers within the GOP start panicking? I assumed they would have done something to kill his candidacy before the first debate but it seems like he has too much momentum at this point for them to keep him out of it. Are they just hoping that he flames out on his own?

smg77 posted:

At what point do the real powers within the GOP start panicking?

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

HootTheOwl posted:

They're already panicking. They've been courting his money, and now it's come.


*Trump denies conversation.

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

The GOP has been gunning for a big split for the past 7 years. I wonder if Trump is what finally makes it happen.

Flaggy posted:

Does reporting to Twitter even do anything? I thought even the act of hinting at something so horrible gets people banned.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Imagine historians having to report on this in a hundred years

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@LindaHogan

@FoxNews We need @realDonaldTrump . Stop licking your wounds &look 4ward becuz we need action #VOTE4TRUMP

smg77 posted:

At what point do the real powers within the GOP start panicking? I assumed they would have done something to kill his candidacy before the first debate but it seems like he has too much momentum at this point for them to keep him out of it. Are they just hoping that he flames out on his own?

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Imagine historians having to report on this in a hundred years

HootTheOwl posted:

Xenophobic populist splits minority party into moderates and ideologues, causing a political realignment that happens every 25 years or so?
They're kinda used to it.

ToastyPotato posted:

I'd love to see a line by line take down of this where there is a link to the GOP basically breaking each of these beliefs since at least Reagan.

ToastyPotato posted:

I'd love to see a line by line take down of this where there is a link to the GOP basically breaking each of these beliefs since at least Reagan.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

Pretty sure that's meant tongue in cheek.

ToastyPotato posted:

I'd love to see a line by line take down of this where there is a link to the GOP basically breaking each of these beliefs since at least Reagan.

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah, the American Conservative is the fascist-leaning magazine that has always opposed the free market because companies' amoral greed will drive them to all sorts of unwholesome practices like selling condoms, employing gay people, and not being loudly and publicly Christian.

I assumed it was a takedown of the big business wing of the Republican party who aren't sufficiently conservative enough in areas where a woman's or a homosexual's or athiest's money spends just as well as a WASP's.

Good Citizen posted:

Apparently the black man who had been protesting against the removal of the confederate flag was on the way home from a rally, saw a car full of 'angry looking black men', and was so startled he swerved off the road and rolled his car, killing himself.

Zanzibar Ham posted:

Can you link a source? He survived long enough to explain why he crashed, and actually said that?

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Imagine historians having to report on this in a hundred years

Darkman Fanpage posted:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/us/mississippi-to-investigate-death-of-a-black-man-who-raised-confederate-flag.html?referrer=

Deptfordx posted:

"....and thus began the reign of the Glorious Trump dynasty. Long life to our glorious King Trump the VII. The one true Trump. Death to the Usurper, the false Trump who squats in the Seattle radzone and plots war upon the rightful heir hair."

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Secretary of State John Kerry and other top administration officials will face tough questions on the Iran deal at a Senate hearing Thursday, as lawmakers raise new concerns about alleged secret "side deals" struck with Tehran over its nuclear program.

"That we are only now discovering that parts of this dangerous agreement are being kept secret begs the question of what other elements may also be secret and entirely free from public scrutiny," Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said in a statement.

Kerry briefed lawmakers on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, but skeptics of the deal appeared to emerge from the meeting with even more questions. Some lawmakers, like Cotton, vowed to fight to "kill this deal."

But their latest concern is over the supposed side agreements. Cotton and Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Kan., first brought attention to them Tuesday, saying they learned from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) that there were two "side deals" between Iran and the IAEA.

According to the lawmakers, one agreement covers inspection of the Parchin military complex, and the other concerns potential military aspects of Iran's nuclear program. On the former, they said, Iran would be able to strike a separate arrangement with the IAEA concerning inspections at Parchin.

House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell joined Cotton and Pompeo in sending a letter to President Obama on Wednesday requesting that the agreements be made available to Congress so that they can be reviewed.

"We request you transmit these two side agreements to Congress immediately so we may perform our duty to assess the many important questions related to the JCPOA [Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action]," the letter says.

Kerry testifies alongside Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday.

National Security Adviser Susan Rice, while defending the overall nuclear agreement, appeared to acknowledge the existence of the side deals on Wednesday. She said the matter of the Iran nuclear program's "possible military dimensions" (PMD) has long been an issue between Iran and the IAEA. She said they "negotiated and concluded an agreement to deal with this issue of PMD, which was one of the major sticking points in our dealings."

She added: "These documents are not public, but nonetheless, we have been briefed on those documents, we know their contents, we're satisfied with them and we will share the contents of those briefings in full in a classified session with the Congress. So there's nothing in that regard that we know that they won't know."

Pompeo also asked Kerry about the secret deals in a briefing Wednesday and said afterwards that Kerry "confirmed that there were in fact side deals and himself had not seen the agreement."

"I was incredibly surprised to learn there were components of the deal that Congress was not going to be privy to," Pompeo said, adding that he had expected that American negotiators would have demanded to see the side deals being cut.

The letter to Obama expressed concern that Congress was being kept in the dark.

"Most troubling, Iran and the IAEA reached agreement to resolve issues related to research at Parchin, but Congress will not have the ability to review this agreement, nor will we know the results of the IAEA's assessment until December 15," the letter says.

It goes on to request access to the side deals so that Congress can effectively review the deal as a whole:

"Failure to produce these two side agreements leaves Congress blind on critical information regarding Iran's potential path to being a nuclear power and will have detrimental consequences for the ability of members to assess the JCPOA," the letter says.

Fantastic_Mr_Fox posted:

Based on my limited understanding of this, it seems like the IAEA(International Atomic Energy Agency) made additional deals with Iran in regards to Iran's nuclear program. The republicans in congress are jumping all over this, calling these deals "side deals" and in general being dishonest about what is going on. It seems like the right is banking on people just getting upset about Iran being dealt with at all and are automatically going against the whole thing. Hell, they are claiming that Kerry was involved in these deals when he is reported to have said he hadn't seen the agreements himself. Keep in mind with all this that the IAEA is an organization based in Austria, which is, strangely, outside of the united states.