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Owlkill posted:What are people's thoughts on priming? Most of my previous modelling experience was with Games Workshop miniatures, where the received wisdom seemed to be to ALWAYS undercoat. I've put a couple of starter kits together this year and used grey Humbrol primer on them before I painted them, but the tiny spray can is close to running out and I'm wondering if it's really worth spending another £8 on a new can or if there are cheaper alternatives (ie non-Tamiya/Humbrol paints, or just not undercoating). I don't use an airbrush (not far enough into the hobby that I can really justify the outlay yet). I'm guessing you're in Europe somewhere. Maybe you can try Halford plastic primer? http://www.halfords.com/motoring-travel/cleaning-body-repair/car-spray-paints/halfords-plastic-primer-grey-spray-300ml I know it's automotive primer, but I've read some good things about it on a couple forums. I haven't been able to give it a shot since it's not really available here in the states.
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AlphaDog posted:I tried the freezer/tap thing to get glue unstuck and was completely unsuccessful. Great looking StuG! The problem with vinyl tracks is that they can't really represent anything but tightly adjusted intact tracks for the reason that real tracks have weight throughout, and will sag over the idlers when broken. Here's what a real broken track looks like. 
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Aug 23, 2015 18:35
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So somebody described craptank as a child's rendering of a IS-3. So that gave me an idea. I painted it white, then used coloring pencils. I tried crayon, but the results were not too good.  I painted the tracks white too, but then all the paint just flaked off so I said gently caress it  Also used a pencil to highlight details and do the machine gun. 
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Aug 24, 2015 00:39
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A strong and bold choice. I like it.
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Aug 24, 2015 01:20
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Fantastic, I love the brown crayon track marks. Nice touch.
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Aug 24, 2015 03:30
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Crayola tank is good stuff. I agree that that terrain and track marks are great. Almost done with the standing rigging. 
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Aug 24, 2015 04:19
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While you guys are making tanks I made... a cardboard box! Well a cardboard box with windows now. I'm basing it on this lovely building 
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Aug 24, 2015 05:05
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The box looks pretty good. What are you planning to do with the inside of it so that it doesn't look like a hollow box through all those windows?
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Had kind of a crappy day today, but sitting down and finishing my spitfire made me feel a bit better.     
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Aug 24, 2015 05:35
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The Locator posted:The box looks pretty good. What are you planning to do with the inside of it so that it doesn't look like a hollow box through all those windows? I'll put something solid and black inside a ways from the windows. If I was feeling extra crazy I'd make a sort of interior made out of cardboard put together like the spacer thingy inside a beer bottle box.
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Aug 24, 2015 05:37
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Big props for scribble-tank, it's perfect.
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Aug 24, 2015 12:07
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The Locator posted:Crayola tank is good stuff. I agree that that terrain and track marks are great. Looks lovely. All these tank builds made me grab another partwork off of Ebay. This 140 issue monster by Hachette will end up in a Tiger I at 1:16 with full metal chassis, metal track and a complete interior. This part of the barrel alone weighs more than most plastic kits. 
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The Locator posted:Almost done with the standing rigging. Goddamn that looks awesome. Do you know of anywhere that I could read about how to get into wooden ships as a complete beginner? Maybe a site that lays out "you need these tools and equipment, this is how you do x, this is how you do y"?
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Aug 24, 2015 15:28
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Trawling (see what I did there?) modelshipworld.com should give you plenty of ideas, but if there's a good beginner guide/book I'd be interested too.
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Aug 24, 2015 15:29
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There's a good book on historic shipbuilding I would recommend (at least the original German version is excellent) http://www.amazon.com/Historic-Ship-Models-Wolfram-Mondfeld/dp/0806957336 It is however a bit disorganized and it doesn't qualify as a tutorial. It's more a collection of "what you can do" and doesn't tell you "First you would need to do this and then that". It's more "Here's a bunch of things you can do when building a hull / These are techniques to do the rigging and it should look like this to be historically correct." Also the author is incredibly condescending. He's a master builder and boy will he let you know. Greyhawk fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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AlphaDog posted:Do you know of anywhere that I could read about how to get into wooden ships as a complete beginner? Maybe a site that lays out "you need these tools and equipment, this is how you do x, this is how you do y"? To my knowledge, modelshipworld.com is going to be your best starting point. It has a lot of resource material both on the forum, and in the linked Nautical Research Guild site, including a nice thread on tools you need, articles on choosing your first model, planking, etc. There isn't going to be a comprehensive step 1 through step x for a specific beginner model, because every model is so much different from the others. The closest approximation to a full step by step instruction guide would be practicums that are available for some kits. For example http://www.lauckstreetshipyard.com/ sells practicums for quite a few models (I am using his AVS practicum), but even with the practicum I've found significant differences between the walk-through and reality. Either the kit has changed in the 10+ years since it was written, or he was just wrong about some things. I use it mostly as a guide to keep me on track, and tips & tricks, rather than a detailed step by step instruction. I don't think you really need a practicum though, if you spend a good bit of time on modelshipworld.com, go through all the reference material that is stickied or on the NRG site, and then when you get ready to start, pick a model with a lot of existing build logs, and just read through all of them and use their guidance, then post your own build log when you start and get feedback and don't be afraid to ask questions. There are a ton of people that will be happy to help. On the book front, there are a bunch of books out there on wooden ship building, and I have probably 30 of them by now, but again, no 'step by step' instruction type books that are really good, unless you've selected a very specific ship that is covered in one of the really expensive reference books like the Swan class books available from SeaWatch Books. It's a 4 volume set, and it costs $70 per volume plus shipping ( http://www.seawatchbooks.com/AboutSwan.htm ). But most of those type of books are aimed at the scratch builders. They are chock full of fantastic information that can be applied to similar ships and features, but probably not something I'd recommend a beginner invest in! I do have the book linked by Greyhawk, and I've used it a number of times, but yea, it's not really a step by step guide by any stretch. This book by Frank Mastini is recommended by a lot of guys too - http://www.amazon.com/Ship-Modeling-Simplified-Techniques-Construction/dp/0071558675/ref=pd_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=134WCTTS7293P9BEP14T
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The nerd in me chose a name.
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The Locator posted:The nerd in me chose a name. That is fantastic.
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The Locator posted:The nerd in me chose a name. You can learn all the math in the World... but you take a boat out to sea that you don't love... she'll shake you off just as sure as the turn of the worlds. Love keeps her afloat when she ought to sink... tells you she's hurting before she keels. Makes her a home.
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Greyhawk posted:Also the author is incredibly condescending. He's a master builder and boy will he let you know. Hah! This was my big takeaway from this book as well. Any chance the author has to put down amateurs or condescend to the readers is used to good effect. I don't know if it's a european thing or what. I see the same from a lot of the european master modelers. Even when they're generally upbeat people like Mig Jiminez, out of the blue they'll have a comment letting you know just how little they think about someones technique or style of modeling. The Locator posted:The nerd in me chose a name. I think I can see Frank Costanza gesticulating furiously by the taffrail.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I don't know if it's a european thing or what. I see the same from a lot of the european master modelers. Even when they're generally upbeat people like Mig Jiminez, out of the blue they'll have a comment letting you know just how little they think about someones technique or style of modeling. It's worse with Mondfeld, because he's a German prince, or rather would be if we would still recognize nobility here. They tend to still think of themselves as better than the general population. I should know, my girlfriends father is the same way and he's the equivalent of a baronet or would be if his title was still worth 10 bucks.
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Over in the Scale Modeling thread we have been having a group project for the month of August. The idea was to all buy the same cheapo crap kit and see who could come up with the best end product. It was decided to buy the Airfix 1:72 IS-3 tank kit. This kit is not without it's problems as it was designed by someone who had never seen the tank expect for one photograph, as Pierzak found out. Pierzak posted:I have that too. I accidentally shaved down the nub that's supposed to help with barrel orientation because it had a major mold shift. So Ladies and Gentlemen I am cross posting here for your judgement! The winner gets to pick the next monstrosity of a model for us all to do! In no particular order I present to you....Crap Tank! The Locator posted:I think I'm done with craptank for now. Reasonably happy with it given that it's my first plastic model in 30 years, but it certainly has some issues and things I would do different if I could start over. Troll Bridgington posted:Okay. NOW I'm calling it done with this tank. Added some rust, some burnt umber washes, the decals, and a matt coat. Bonus pictures of babby tank's older brother model in the background. Ensign Expendable posted:Introducing Joseph "Get rich or kill those trying" $talin and his trusty wingman Lavrentiy Party-vich Beriya! Blue Footed Booby posted:here's craptank anyway. big_g posted:I'm not sure what I'm doing. Warmachine posted:Craptank has been sitting like this for roughly two weeks now, since I've had poo poo for time. I did carve out the muzzle break. I also stuck modeling putty in the tracks and called it close enough. Seriously gently caress vinyl. Not sure if I'll do a camo, or if I'll take the lazy tank crew option and just detail and weather it. Nebakenezzer posted:So somebody described craptank as a child's rendering of a IS-3. So that gave me an idea. headcas3 posted:My craptank finally showed up but I don't have part 51. I see the space for it on the sprue but it's not there or in the box lilljonas posted:Crappy soviet tank project? No problem, just need a soundtrack: Unkempt posted:Well, we all know what this is: Arquinsiel posted:Craptank pictures! I went in a different direction to most of you and decided to paint this as a tank I might actually get some wargames use out of at some point, so I present to you: Uncie Joe's Egyptian summer holiday '67!: Sanguine posted:So, with the crappiness of crap tank I though 'why waste paint?' Also the discussion a bit back about instructions for painting tanks using grass in fuel got me thinking, so.. why not paint it with grass? big_g fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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big_g posted:So we a have week left to finish crap tank so I thought I would take it upon myself to post an up to date summary of where we are all at. It was good fun, both building the crap tank and seeing everybody else's. I wouldn't mind doing more "crap model" stuff in the future.
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big_g posted:So we a have week left to finish crap tank so I thought I would take it upon myself to post an up to date summary of where we are all at. I feel so left out now.
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The Locator posted:I feel so left out now. I thought some tab had been closed by accident when I was making the post. Edited you in now so no need to worry. I think we should post all these to the Miniature Painting Thread in Trad Games next week to see who they think is the best. Winner chooses next crap kit.
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big_g posted:I thought some tab had been closed by accident when I was making the post. Edited you in now so no need to worry. Mind throwing mine in there as well? It got lost quite a few pages back.  Are there any really crappy plane kits?
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Troll Bridgington posted:Mind throwing mine in there as well? It got lost quite a few pages back. drat, sorry. I missed yours with it being the first one posted early doors. Edited in now.
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Troll Bridgington posted:Mind throwing mine in there as well? It got lost quite a few pages back. Here you go, a good kit of a really crappy plane. http://scaleplasticandrail.com/kabo...ittyhawk-models
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Baronjutter posted:Here you go, a good kit of a really crappy plane. Heh "Whichever way you slice it, the Lockheed F-35 is a critically important aircraft that in coming decades will fill the ranks of the United States and most of its allies."
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Aug 24, 2015 21:34
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The Locator posted:The nerd in me chose a name. Yes!
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big_g posted:I thought some tab had been closed by accident when I was making the post. Edited you in now so no need to worry. That's a good idea. Though I should say, there are lots of small kits, and many of them are not even crap. That 1/350 U-boat I built last year was $10. There is also a ton of fun little 1/144 fighter jets from all sorts of manufacturers for around that price point. Italeri's tiny tanks are usually sold at a low price and are usually pretty good.
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Nebakenezzer posted:fun little 1/144 fighter jets This will end in a lot of fighter jets crashing against the walls in frustration. Should definitely do this.
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Model Expo ( https://www.modelexpo-online.com ) is having another 50% off anything sale, including the Corel wooden ship kits which they won't even get in stock until September, and of course as with the last one, the entire line of Vallejo paints. No free shipping this time though. Use offer code DL15, good through September 15th. Edit: Not going anywhere near a 1/144th scale anything.
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The Locator posted:Model Expo ( https://www.modelexpo-online.com ) is having another 50% off anything sale, including the Corel wooden ship kits which they won't even get in stock until September, and of course as with the last one, the entire line of Vallejo paints. 1/144 is not that bad. If we go that route might I suggest the Revell F-14 kits?
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1/144 jets are actually pretty drat huge. F-14s are bigger than B-25s, for example.
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The Locator posted:The nerd in me chose a name. The only nerd reference I can think of is Serenity Now bombing the funeral in World of Warcraft. What's the reference?
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Uh... Firefly?
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Arquinsiel posted:Uh... Firefly? Yes. Also, for non-sci-fi reference, the definition of 'serenity' is "the state of being calm, peaceful, and untroubled", and I thought it was funny name for a privateer, whose purpose for existence is pretty much the opposite of serene. The Locator fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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