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InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

"WOOP WOOP--PULL UP. WOOP WOOP--PULL UP"
Juggalo planes, the truest horror

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Naganted
Jul 22, 2007

Indistinct Gibberish.
Toilet Rascal
I am continually amazed at how it's almost a given that goons will derail over steak.
And I hate hearing about it just as much as many people so I'm gonna bore you with how I like mine.

I don't like the taste or smell of blood because I'm a dumb Veteran who got himself messed up in a stupid war zone.

Just about burnt on the outside, and greyish and unappealling on the inside. With lots of salt and A1. There. That ought to give someone here a right proper aneurysm.

Trying to find something 'spooky' and unnerving so as not to make this post total sarcastic trash and to not continue the derail, I tried to look up some of the weirder ghost stories from my area, but apparently everyone who thinks they've seen ghosts around here is a 12 year old making a 1997 era website, and I don't want to get laughed at even more for posting a ridiculously horrid link.

I laugh that in my city we have an old abandoned cinema right in the middle of the city, it's been closed for like at least 30 years and people are just now trying to renovate and restore it because it is a really unique building.
And of course, since it's old, been abandoned for eons, and naturally spooky, the ghost stories come around. My favorite one is someone swearing that there's a ghost of one of the bums that died in the place haunting it and being weird.
I immediately thought of a story my Dad likes telling of when he was a kid there was a homeless guy who'd sit infront of the place trying to make money by selling pencils (Whaa?) and because kids are assholes, Dad liked to torment the guy by saying "Bobby fou!" (Bobby's crazy, in French.) the guy wouldn't say anything until Dad and his friends were halfway down the street and then they'd hear him holler "Pas fou mueah!" (Didn't spell that right, Dad's French is incredibly ghetto and never written.Means I'm not crazy.) They absolutely loved to hear the crazy homeless pencil guy scream that he wasn't crazy,.......Ahh entertainment in the days before videogames.

I just love the thought that Bobby is haunting that cinema just waiting for the day that little rear end in a top hat comes back so he can haunt the poo poo outta him.

I'd post pictures of the place, but I don't know how/have the ambition. It looks like it would be a Japanese developers wet dream if they were designing a 'spooky' horror game full of stereotypes, right down to a massive set of ornate stairs in the main area.

blunt for century
Jul 4, 2008

I've got a bone to pick.

Do not post about how to ~*properly*~ cook steak. Do not post about those who posted about it. Do not post about how annoying this conversation is every loving time we have it.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


blunt for century posted:

Do not post about how to ~*properly*~ cook steak. Do not post about those who posted about it. Do not post about how annoying this conversation is every loving time we have it.

Why don't we post about which serial killer/cannibal was properly cooking human steaks? Don't a lot of them try to sautée?

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

This book never fails to creep me out every time I read it. Urban legends in graphic novel form!

Sustentacular
Aug 27, 2011
Hey, how about a nice longform article? This article is about the 1980 bombing of Harvey's Wagon Wheel Casino in Lake Tahoe. Basically, a man by the name of "Big John" Birges, an inventor and self-made millionaire, sold his lawnscaping business and retired in the early 70s. He then spent most of his time and money travelling to the Wagon Wheel, and pretty much gambled away everything he had built up over the years. Hurt and angry, he came up with a crazy idea to get back all the money he'd lost and more. With the help of his sons, he built this thing:

It was a bomb that was impossible to stop. It had a timer which would detonate after a couple of days. It had a pendulum, so that if you moved it, it would detonate. It had a float switch, so that if you tried to flood it, it would detonate. It was lined with foil so that if you tried to drill or cut into it, it would complete a circuit and detonate. Every screw on the box was connected to a switch that would detonate if tampered with. It had numerous toggle switches on the outside, some of which were wired to blow, and some of which were distractions, and so on and so forth. Big John left a ransom note asking for $3 million in exchange for instructions on how to deactivate the pendulum so that it could be moved to a safe location to detonate. Anyway, the article details the whole thing all the way to the trial that took place when he was caught, and it includes videos of what happened when the FBI tried to defuse it.

The crazy thing? He would have gotten away with it if they hadn't stopped for the night before going through with the plan. One of the idiots he hired to help him wheel the thing into the casino gave their actual license plate number for the hotel registration. It was the only lead they had. The FBI leaned on his sons, and eventually they 'fessed up in exchange for immunity. To this day, the plexiglass model of the bomb that was built for demonstration at the trial is still used at Quantico to train explosives technicians.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Ineffiable posted:

Why don't we post about which serial killer/cannibal was properly cooking human steaks? Don't a lot of them try to sautée?

Here's the better question, since people taste a lot like pig wouldn't we have chops instead of steaks?

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS

Solice Kirsk posted:

Here's the better question, since people taste a lot like pig wouldn't we have chops instead of steaks?

There is such a thing as a ham steak. But to provide some unnerving content that this reminded me of, check out Janice Poon's blog.

Who the hell's Janice Poon, you ask? She's the chef/food designer that makes all the dishes for the set of Hannibal, the TV series. Basically, she has to take something non-meat but edible that won't spoil after hours of sitting under set lights, make it look like human meat that's disguised as animal meat. If you watch the show, it's incredibly unnerving to see how mouthwateringly delicious something looks, knowing that it's supposed to be human, and I'm not sure what's worse, when the diners know it's human and eat it, or they know it's human and eat it. In a couple memorable episodes, the dinner guests knew exactly what they were eating because it belonged to them. :gonk:
Yea, I know it's not as unnerving as non-fiction, but still...

Cannibalism of any kind is creepy to me.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

queserasera posted:

This book never fails to creep me out every time I read it. Urban legends in graphic novel form!



I have that! And a few of the others, they're a brilliant series of books based around spooky topics, all done in comic form by different artists. The Big Book of Freaks is excellent, I lent my copy to someone though and never got it back :(

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

Rondette posted:

The Big Book of Freaks is excellent, I lent my copy to someone though and never got it back :(

Say "hi" from me to Karl Pilkington next time you chat to him. :)

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sustentacular posted:

Hey, how about a nice longform article? [url=https://read.atavist.com/a-thousand-pounds-of-dynamite?no-overlay&preview]

This was a great read. The guy's almost perfect plan falls apart because of some really small gently caress ups.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

Rondette posted:

I have that! And a few of the others, they're a brilliant series of books based around spooky topics, all done in comic form by different artists. The Big Book of Freaks is excellent, I lent my copy to someone though and never got it back :(

I just put a bunch of stuff on my to-read list. There's one on conspiracies. I like reading about pre-20th century conspiracy things.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20150821/NEWS/150829843

It's terrifying to think that someone would actively goad their physically healthy, young SO into committing suicide.

blunt for century
Jul 4, 2008

I've got a bone to pick.

Sarcopenia posted:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20150821/NEWS/150829843

It's terrifying to think that someone would actively goad their physically healthy, young SO into committing suicide.

Goddamn. :stare:

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Sarcopenia posted:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20150821/NEWS/150829843

It's terrifying to think that someone would actively goad their physically healthy, young SO into committing suicide.

Here's from right after she was arrested.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/02/get-back-in-there-teen-charged-with-pressuring-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide/

Wash Post Article posted:

But writing to friends after Roy’s body was discovered, police say, Carter appeared to acknowledge that her messages to her boyfriend were intended to encourage him to go through with the suicide.

“[H]is death is my fault like honestly I could have stopped him I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car because it was working and he got scared,” Carter texted a friend Sept. 14, according to the Boston Herald. “I [expletive] told him to get back in … because I knew he would do it all over again the next day and I couldn’t have him live the way he was living anymore I couldn’t do it I wouldn’t let him…”

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

Sarcopenia posted:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20150821/NEWS/150829843

It's terrifying to think that someone would actively goad their physically healthy, young SO into committing suicide.

Holy poo poo.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

showbiz_liz posted:

Holy poo poo.

I'd heard about this when it first happened but I hadn't read the texts. Jesus Christ that's not something I should've read while I'm trying to go to sleep, that's heartbreaking. She took advantage of a mentally ill kid so she could feel some sort of power or something in encouraging him to kill himself.

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

queserasera posted:

This book never fails to creep me out every time I read it. Urban legends in graphic novel form!



Parents bought this for me my 10th birthday. I read this when I was 10, because they would try anything to get me excited about reading.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

funmanguy posted:

Parents bought this for me my 10th birthday. I read this when I was 10, because they would try anything to get me excited about reading.

Your parents sound a bit like mine. "Eh, she likes comics and spooky things" And that's how I ended up with a tape of Christopher Lee reading Edgar Allen Poe stories for my 8th birthday.




This is my collection of Big Books. The Urban Legend and Unexplained ones are probably my favourites, but they are all very entertaining. Got to get my Freaks book back though! That is the best.

Rondette has a new favorite as of 05:38 on Aug 25, 2015

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

InediblePenguin posted:

Juggalo planes, the truest horror

this made me laugh way too hard

salty fries make me cry
Oct 3, 2007

~~i'm outside ur window~~
~throwin bricks at teh moon~

Sarcopenia posted:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20150821/NEWS/150829843

It's terrifying to think that someone would actively goad their physically healthy, young SO into committing suicide.

I've never felt the need for a trigger warning before reading this, holy gently caress.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Yeah usually the stuff in this thread is predictable in how it makes you feel a bit weird but those texts made my heart rate go up and made be feel really unsettled.

Transmogrifier
Dec 10, 2004


Systems at max!

Lipstick Apathy
Geezus christ that is loving awful. I don't even know what to think. I mean good god. In the same breath she's telling this boy she loves him and he's her heart she's urging him to kill himself. The disconnect is just horrible.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Huh, never thought I'd be truly unnerved ever again, but here we are. I'm sure this same conversation has happened a million times before, but just seeing it written out like that is pretty hosed up. Think she'll spend any time in prison? Is it illegal to encourage someone to kill themselves?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Solice Kirsk posted:

Huh, never thought I'd be truly unnerved ever again, but here we are. I'm sure this same conversation has happened a million times before, but just seeing it written out like that is pretty hosed up. Think she'll spend any time in prison? Is it illegal to encourage someone to kill themselves?

There is some evidence that he didn't want to go through with it and she convinced him to go back and finish it. Pretty sure that counts as having a hand in someone's death, and that is very much illegal. From the article it seems she is charged with manslaughter instead of murder, though. Not sure why. Seems pretty premeditated to me.

AdjectiveNoun
Oct 11, 2012

Everything. Is. Fine.

ArchangeI posted:

There is some evidence that he didn't want to go through with it and she convinced him to go back and finish it. Pretty sure that counts as having a hand in someone's death, and that is very much illegal. From the article it seems she is charged with manslaughter instead of murder, though. Not sure why. Seems pretty premeditated to me.

In the article it links to a Part 2, and yeah, she outright admits the bolded. http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20150822/NEWS/150829806/-1/breaking_ajax

Spoilered so that people who don't want to read it don't have to:

quote:

[Friend’s name], his death is my fault. Like, honestly I could have stopped it. I was the one on the phone with him and he got out of the car because he was working and he got scared and I [expletive] told him to get back in, [friend's name], because I knew he would do it all over again the next day and I couldn't have him live that way the way he was living anymore. I couldn't do it. I wouldn't let him.


And she absolutely knew she did a bad thing, with comments like:

quote:

[Friend’s name] …they read my messages with him I'm done. His family will hate me and I can go to jail.

So Manslaughter sounds totally wrong.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
How will her being (I think) a minor at the time of his death effect things, if at all?

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

ArchangeI posted:

There is some evidence that he didn't want to go through with it and she convinced him to go back and finish it. Pretty sure that counts as having a hand in someone's death, and that is very much illegal. From the article it seems she is charged with manslaughter instead of murder, though. Not sure why. Seems pretty premeditated to me.

Some evidence? Even in just the messages between the two of them he tries to back out of it (and does a few times) a bunch and she won't let him get away from it

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
It's all very awful but there's no way a murder charge would be applicable in that case, surely. He was alone and miles away from her. he'd left the car once because he realised it was going to work, so he knew more than anyone what would happen if he got back in. She's many things, none of them good, but I'm not sure a murder charge would stick.

I'd try and defend her a little (as devil's advocate) because maybe the conversations before the ones we've seen told her that the right thing to do was to encourage him and in her naivety she did the wrong thing, but for the right reasons. I can't, though, because it reads to me like she couldn't wait to get all that precious sympathy.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

stickyfngrdboy posted:

She's many things, none of them good, but I'm not sure a murder charge would stick.

This is super important. What they did has to fit exact legal definitions of what they're being charged with. IIRC, a prosecutor once intentionally charged a police officer with manslaughter so they could get off because it was a deliberate, thought out action.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Turfahurf posted:

I've never felt the need for a trigger warning before reading this, holy gently caress.

Yeah, I probably should have put a trigger warning on there, as I actually got pretty triggered by this myself :smith:
If I had, had someone in my life like her when I was younger I would probably not have been here today. So sad...

Until she was found out she helped raise over 2000$ for suicide prevention charities and it seems like the boy's family still supports her to some degree because they can't see what she benefited from this probably wants to see her burn in hell. She has a history of lying for attention.
Munchhausen is probably a good bet on this one.


Sarcopenia has a new favorite as of 16:36 on Aug 25, 2015

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Pharnakes posted:

How will her being (I think) a minor at the time of his death effect things, if at all?

From another article.
"Carter, who was 17 at the time, will be tried as an adult in juvenile court."

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Sarcopenia posted:

Yeah, I probably should have put a trigger warning on there, as I actually got pretty triggered by this myself :smith:
If I had, had someone in my life like her when I was younger I would probably not have been here today. So sad...

Until she was found out she helped raise over 2000$ for suicide prevention charities and it seems like the boy's family still supports her to some degree because they can't see what she benefited from this. She has a history of lying for attention.
Munchhausen is probably a good bet on this one.

They still support her? What the gently caress? Maybe she wasn't lying when she claimed the family wouldn't care

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Aesop Poprock posted:

They still support her? What the gently caress? Maybe she wasn't lying when she claimed the family wouldn't care

Its probably just ignorance, the trauma of losing their son in such a horrific way, and the instinct to make sense of it all that might make them feel that way for now. Its probably easier to accept that the girl stupidly thought she was using reverse psychology or something than the real truth that their son had been dating someone who, for whatever hosed up reason, wanted him dead.

MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

She's a loving bitch dying for the attention her huge forehead hasn't given her.

quote:

CARTER’S FACEBOOK POST: Hey everyone, as some of you already know my boyfriend Conrad Roy recently passed away on July 13. He suffered from mental illness and depression. Conrad's death was a wake-up call for me. I want to speak out to fight the public stigma and to give a clearer picture of what mental illness is all about. Even though I could not save my boyfriend's life, I want to put myself out there to try to save as many other lives as possible, and if I can through my experiences shed light on a way out of a difficult situation that I know so many people are going through, then that is what I need to do.
Court documents report that the tournament was ultimately held in Plainville and was mainly attended by Carter's friends and family. Conrad's friend Tom learned about the tournament, and in August, asked to participate. He also asked Carter why she was holding the tournament in Plainville, a town considerably remote from Conrad's home.
She answered, "[i]t's in my town, ha, ha," and that she "didn't know how to organize it in [Mattapoisett because she] didn't know anyone[there] and it was going to be a long drive to keep going back and forth."
When Tom proposed moving the Plainville tournament to Mattapoisett, she responded, "I can't change it, like, I already have made it up here and I have people advertising here and supporting it and I'm sure everyone will come from your town ... Like, this was my idea. I created it to be here."
Later, when Tom shared the Facebook event through his Facebook account, Carter contacted him and asked,
CARTER: "You're not taking credit for my idea though; right? LOL."
TOM: "No. I'll credit you if you really want."
CARTER: "Ha, ha. Well, I mean, I'm hosting it. Like, it's my idea. But you're like my co-captain now."
When Tom asked Carter how many times she had met Conrad in person, Carter answered,
CARTER: I know what we had and he does too. He was the most special and important person in my life and he told me the same. He told me everything about why he killed himself and all that he was feeling. We were end game. We both knew it. He didn't need to tell anyone that . . . I don't think anyone will ever understand what Conrad and I had so much. I don't expect you to either.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Aesop Poprock posted:

They still support her? What the gently caress? Maybe she wasn't lying when she claimed the family wouldn't care

gently caress when I read it, I missed that it was her own family!!! My bad. Naw then his family probably hates her loving guts.

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


jesus christ :staredog:

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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This really is a weird case. "Tried as an adult in juvenile court," what the hell does that even mean? Does she go to juvey or regular person prison? Why is it a juvenile court if she's being tried as an adult?

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Pharnakes posted:

How will her being (I think) a minor at the time of his death effect things, if at all?

As was already pointed out, likely not at all.

Sarcopenia posted:

From another article.
"Carter, who was 17 at the time, will be tried as an adult in juvenile court."

Sometimes I worry about trials as adults being misapplied, like those girls in the Slenderman stabbing. 12 seems like too childlike to always really grasp what you're doing.

In this case: no, I think 17 is definitely old enough to have adult-like agency going on.

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WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Nth Doctor posted:

Sometimes I worry about trials as adults being misapplied, like those girls in the Slenderman stabbing. 12 seems like too childlike to always really grasp what you're doing.

This is so hosed up, especially since in a town near me there were two fourteen year olds who were tried as juviniles and did seven years for a school shooting where they killed five people(oh, and one molested a toddler and killed a cat before).

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