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Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
This is usually no big deal, but I thought I'd ask to clarify.


A lot of times the bonds are kinda lackluster. How do you feel about us writing our own?

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Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

That's more than fine by me. I fully expect you'll all come up with better bonds than the playbooks suggest, so go nuts.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
Hoorah! Error 404, Arashiofordo3, we ride again!

As for bonds, anyone is welcome to be a crewman of the Black Heaven if they would like. Ratpick and Error 404 particularly, if one of you would like to be the ship's engineer that would be rather apropos (or both engineers who are at odds with one another on the finer points of mechanical science).

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Hoorah! Error 404, Arashiofordo3, we ride again!

As for bonds, anyone is welcome to be a crewman of the Black Heaven if they would like. Ratpick and Error 404 particularly, if one of you would like to be the ship's engineer that would be rather apropos (or both engineers who are at odds with one another on the finer points of mechanical science).

This seems like a really interesting direction to take things! I could see there being a bit of a friendly rivalry between the two, since Usopp represents a more careful and analytical look at science and engineering, while Jerret's approach is more experimental.

That said, I really feel that I need to figure out new bonds for Usopp, because I reflavored the Collector to such an extent already that the standard bonds are not really a good fit for his concept. Any ideas would be welcome!

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
Luka can't get burned, so would do well as a gunner/engine room person.

Usopp, I will teach you the TRUE meaning of sacrifice: (it's letting me eat all those dumb gadgets from the surface world, they don't belong here!).

Also they're the reason you can't live your life.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Ratpick posted:

This seems like a really interesting direction to take things! I could see there being a bit of a friendly rivalry between the two, since Usopp represents a more careful and analytical look at science and engineering, while Jerret's approach is more experimental.

That said, I really feel that I need to figure out new bonds for Usopp, because I reflavored the Collector to such an extent already that the standard bonds are not really a good fit for his concept. Any ideas would be welcome!

*Posts image of Bruce Banner, Nick Fury, and Tony Stark arguing onboard the helicarrier*

:smug:

E: at work, blah blah, phoneposting, blah, realpost when I get home, etc.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"

slydingdoor posted:

Luka can't get burned, so would do well as a gunner/engine room person.

Usopp, I will teach you the TRUE meaning of sacrifice: (it's letting me eat all those dumb gadgets from the surface world, they don't belong here!).

Also they're the reason you can't live your life.

If you think Gett is going to let a guy who's always on fire near the gunpowder, you...actually, he is pretty reckless.

Edit: Actually, given your obsessions with fire and taste, how about ship's cook?

Vulpes Vulpes fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Aug 25, 2015

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
The fire is like completely contained with a soot suit and flexible insulation to give Luka a human form. And cool hair. Gunpowder would be safe. Making a creature without tastebuds the cook would be far more dangerous. Like Chef Bender, basically.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
Master Gunner it is then. Your Wisdom is high enough to make you good at it too!

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

If you think Gett is going to let a guy who's always on fire near the gunpowder, you...actually, he is pretty reckless.

Edit: Actually, given your obsessions with fire and taste, how about ship's cook?

In the last Dungeon World game I ran, one of the players played a fire-elemental Channeler. She was the ship's cook.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
So just a spitball, then:

The Black Heaven, registered to Barsalvo
Captain: Godolphin Gett, of Barsalvo
Chief Engineer: Jerret Roarke of Tiphares
Also Chief Engineer: Professor Usopp of Arcadia
Master Gunner: Luka Solaspon of Sola

As for Cy, it's up to you. He could be a passenger, or he could use his abilities as a Navigator or Oracle or whatever else you think fits.

Edit: Or nothing at all to do with the ship and crew as well, I don't mean to force a structure on anyone.

Vulpes Vulpes fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Aug 25, 2015

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

So just a spitball, then:

The Black Heaven, registered to Barsalvo
Captain: Godolphin Gett, of Barsalvo
Chief Engineer: Jerret Roarke of Tiphares
Also Chief Engineer: Professor Usopp of Arcadia
Master Gunner: Luka Solaspon of Sola

As for Cy, it's up to you. He could be a passenger, or he could use his abilities as a Navigator or Oracle or whatever else you think fits.

Edit: Or nothing at all to do with the ship and crew as well, I don't mean to force a structure on anyone.

Actually what if I wasn't crew?
Like a partner (e: or passenger), who captains his own ship which has a crew of 1.

Like I can get into areas the heaven can't and also work as air support and escort if the ship comes under attack.

Error 404 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 25, 2015

Arashiofordo3
Nov 5, 2010

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may prove lethal.
I doubt Cy would ever officially join the crew. Though I can see him adding his name to the roster moments after Gett had finished writing it. Just to mess with the guy.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I did want to float an idea by Ratpick and Error 404: you both had a free-floating city in your background/question answers. Error 404 has Aranis, the Cloud City, which floats on aetheric engines and isn't suspended on a branch or on an island, and has existed as long as anyone can remember; Ratpick introduced Skyport, which similarly floats in the air, unsupported by anything, and is possibly supported by ancient Surface tech. How do you two feel about merging the two concepts to help maintain the city's uniqueness?

Up to you which name is "canon." Maybe scholars disagree.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Harrow posted:

I did want to float an idea by Ratpick and Error 404: you both had a free-floating city in your background/question answers. Error 404 has Aranis, the Cloud City, which floats on aetheric engines and isn't suspended on a branch or on an island, and has existed as long as anyone can remember; Ratpick introduced Skyport, which similarly floats in the air, unsupported by anything, and is possibly supported by ancient Surface tech. How do you two feel about merging the two concepts to help maintain the city's uniqueness?

Up to you which name is "canon." Maybe scholars disagree.

I'm down. Maybe skyport is a district or borough of Aranis? Like Brooklyn is to New York?

Arashiofordo3
Nov 5, 2010

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That sounds pretty cool. Be a good idea if most of the airship construction goes on there. At least in terms of the flying tech.

Bonds!

quote:

- I saved Capitain Gett's life during the Moon wars. Pulling him out of the falling fortress. He's forever asking about the fate of some princess within, but I promised that my lips were sealed.

- Strangest job I ever took was a request to kill Jerret Roarke, I didn't do it and we instead got very drunk together. He was the first person to make me laugh in years.

- Luka Solaspon is a confusing creature. I swear we've met before, crossed blades before I had a mind to remember maybe. But I can empathise with their plight, losing your memories by choice is brave sacrifice.

- I am currently in the employ of Professor Usopp, I've rather enjoyed fending off the Imperial spies after him. That said... employ is a lose word. He doesn't actually know I've been keeping them away from him. Hehehehe...

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"

Error 404 posted:

Actually what if I wasn't crew?
Like a partner (e: or passenger), who captains his own ship which has a crew of 1.

Like I can get into areas the heaven can't and also work as air support and escort if the ship comes under attack.

Sure, Roarke and Gett can have an arrangement of mutual independence. Roarke can be a long-term passenger who aids the Captain and crew when needed, but who has never signed the accounts and has no official obligation to the ship. Like the lady who rents the shuttle on Firefly or something?

quote:


I like Jerret Roarke despite our interesting arrangement. He looks down on my beautiful ship as an antique and I dismiss his suit as a novelty. I am curious which of us will be shown to be wrong first.

Cy showed up with strangely perfect timing to drag me out of Lunos' fortress, but his timing wasn't perfect enough to save the Princess. I can never repay him for saving me, and I can never forgive him for letting her die.

I've made Luka Solaspon my Master Gunner. I wonder how wise a decision it was to give a creature so given to destruction the run of my weapons. He certainly has an undeniable gift for it, though.

Professor Usopp may be brilliant enough to be my Chief Engineer, but I fear that the academic isn't strong enough for life on the open skies. Perhaps he will prove me wrong.


If any of that rankles anyone, let me know! I've expressed Gett's doubts about the different characters as those seem like good hooks to be resolved in the future.

Vulpes Vulpes fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Aug 26, 2015

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Like the lady who rents the shuttle on Firefly or something?

Exactly!

I figure I'll have a workshop set up below decks with external access, like maybe you're short a cannon on one side because I use one of your cannon bays and its port to launch from?

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Bonds
  • I let Professor Usopp wear my suit once. Never again. He's a good man for drinks and theorycrafting on the Heaven.
  • Cy once told me he was hired to kill me. Right after he told me he wasn't going to kill me. That's the kind of honesty I can respect in a man.
  • Captain Gett helped me with one of my projects, I helped him maximize his profit. We have an understanding, but I can't wait til he lets me take a crack at upgrading this heap. :q:




E: I also found a cool pic that looks like what I imagine the Heaven to look:

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

Harrow posted:

I did want to float an idea by Ratpick and Error 404: you both had a free-floating city in your background/question answers. Error 404 has Aranis, the Cloud City, which floats on aetheric engines and isn't suspended on a branch or on an island, and has existed as long as anyone can remember; Ratpick introduced Skyport, which similarly floats in the air, unsupported by anything, and is possibly supported by ancient Surface tech. How do you two feel about merging the two concepts to help maintain the city's uniqueness?

Up to you which name is "canon." Maybe scholars disagree.

I'm down with this. I like the idea of Skyport being a district of Aranis.

Also, I love the bonds spitballed here thus far. Will post mine once I get back home after work today.

Arashiofordo3
Nov 5, 2010

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may prove lethal.
I kinda like the idea of Cy being some mysterious arsehole who just shows up without warning. Does his business and then is gone again. Poor Captain Gett, maybe one day you'll know what happened inside that falling castle.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012


That is a sweet, sweet ship. Just put some solar veins in the sails to catch Sola's rays and that thing'll sail the skies real pretty.

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.
Alright, here are my tentative bonds thus far, let me know what you think:

  • Jerret Roarke's approach to science and technology is destructive and reckless, but I admire his vision. I wish only that he would apply his brilliance towards peace.
  • Captain Gett has yet to find out why I was so eager to find employment on his ship. I pray he never has to find out.
  • Luka Solaspon is a fascinating creature, but a complete mystery to me. I need to find out what makes him tick.

The first two are pretty self-explanatory, but I should explain the third: basically, given Usopp's analytical and inquisitive nature he regards everything as a mystery to be solved. He doesn't understand what Luka is, but given the chance he would really like to disassemble the suit that contains him (assuming it's a piece of technology) just to see what's inside. That is if slydingdoor agrees with this interpretation.

Arashiofordo3
Nov 5, 2010

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may prove lethal.

Ratpick posted:

Luka Solaspon is a fascinating creature, but a complete mystery to me. I need to find out what makes him tick.

Given we were talking about him being the ships cook, I find the outcome of this bond and your avatar combination to be pretty funny.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Arashiofordo3 posted:

Given we were talking about him being the ships cook, I find the outcome of this bond and your avatar combination to be pretty funny.

Lmao

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

Arashiofordo3 posted:

Given we were talking about him being the ships cook, I find the outcome of this bond and your avatar combination to be pretty funny.

Oh god what have I done

Also, in case you were wondering why Usopp has no bond with Cy: I really liked the idea that Cy has been watching over Usopp, saving his rear end a number of times without him even knowing, and I liked it to such an extent that I thought the best way to do that bond justice would be to have Usopp have no bond with Cy at all. Usopp might not even know that Cy exists, let alone that Cy has secretly been helping him evade his pursuers.

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
It's more of a sculpture/reverse hazmat suit. Otherwise looking at Luka is like staring into the sun, and everything's melting and on fire. Luka can't remember anyone in particular vaporizing themselves trying to creep on them, but the memory'd probably belong to Sola anyway, wouldn't it?

So yeah, no one would have dinner, except ME. Or Sola. Whatever.

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.
Gotcha, so it's not exactly technological. I still think there might be something in a relationship between the two where Usopp just really wants to figure out what Luka is and how they work, but maybe I should phrase it differently. What do you think?

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
Perhaps something along the lines that Luka shouldn't exist by all known natural laws and falls completely outside of what Usopp knows about how things work?

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Perhaps something along the lines that Luka shouldn't exist by all known natural laws and falls completely outside of what Usopp knows about how things work?

I get the feeling Luka is a more powerful version of the spirit I call Hal.

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
Luka knows poo poo only the Sola could know and doesn't share. That's why all those box gadgets need to go, they're dangerous. And telling certain curious cats the details of why they're dangerous... is dangerous!

Why's everyone else gotta want something really bad for everyone? Including themselves...

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Perhaps something along the lines that Luka shouldn't exist by all known natural laws and falls completely outside of what Usopp knows about how things work?

Yeah, exactly: Usopp can't but want to crack Luka's suit up to see what Luka really looks inside, even though we as players know that actually doing so would probably wreak havoc on the entire world as they know it. The way I see that bond resolving is that in the course of events something happens that gives Usopp a glimpse of Luka's true nature, giving Usopp pause and making him go "Yeah, maybe I shouldn't do that."

For now it's probably just going to manifest as a lot of curiosity and prodding questions on Usopp's part. He wouldn't be so crass as to try and break down Luka's protective suit without their permission, but because he doesn't fully understand the full extent of Luka's power he sort of still wants to, if that makes sense?

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
Finally got Gett's portrait drawn, don't have a scanner, macbook camera had to do.

Arashiofordo3
Nov 5, 2010

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may prove lethal.

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Finally got Gett's portrait drawn, don't have a scanner, macbook camera had to do.



Nice. I hate not having a scanner. I don't draw nearly as much as I used to now I can't scan it in.

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
I still have 2 bonds to fill. Anyone want them? I'll answer questions or work together on some. Maybe in irc or whatever if that's easier just name a room.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
I'm open, throw anything you like at me.

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
So Luka lets people gamble for shine by giving up rarities to Sola. Maybe there's something Gett threw in but had second thoughts about despite/because of the rewards or lack thereof?

The other thing I was thinking about was maybe Luka knows something about the late Lunar empire. Perhaps it is the fate of all planets who've lost their stars to join or conquer one still with a light giving sun and raw materials yet unmined.

And maybe many Dark planets train infiltrators to seduce powerful people with similar "antiwar princess" narratives. Allowing the "resistance" within the invading force might have been their contingency plan. And since Gett's last marriage was a mistake (that ended amicably, granted), so he might have been a priority target for Seluna.

Then Luka would want to therapeutically destroy any physical hooks she still had in Gett.

Just thoughts none of these have to be canon.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
I don't know necessarily know about the dark planet idea, as I came up with the moon thing as a kind of Baron Munchausen thing, where the Moon would was jealous of Sola and wanted to take her place, rather than try to take it for itself. But the other bits could work fine- also, as an idea, as a Solaspon, Luka could not only be a...sense organ(?) for Sola but also a kind of antibody, something that goes out to look after her interests after the War Against the Moon where she was directly threatened? If so, then it would be his business to resolve this Moon Princess business. Thoughts?

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?
That film owns.

How about "Gett has a keepsake from Seluna the Moon Princess that could bring her back, but then she could bring her people back. I need to find a way to get him to give it up...or gamble it away. That'd save everyone a lot of trouble."

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Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
Sure, sounds good. Gett, of course, has no idea that it's anything other than a keepsake.

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