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beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014
I was running back and forth to my desk today working on something when my boss calls me into his office so show me something.

On one screen is manga. On the other is what he wanted to show me: the meme avatar he made for his fantasy football account.

I gotta get outta here.

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MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer

beepsandboops posted:

I was running back and forth to my desk today working on something when my boss calls me into his office so show me something.

On one screen is manga. On the other is what he wanted to show me: the meme avatar he made for his fantasy football account.

I gotta get outta here.

Which manga? This could be the factor that determines if this is a cool boss or not.
:goonsay:

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

MJP posted:

Which manga? This could be the factor that determines if this is a cool boss or not.
:goonsay:

And do you mean "manga" as in "japanese comics", or "hentai/doujinshi" as in "japanese pornographic comics"?

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008
*sidles sideways out of the thread*

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
See I don't know, that seems like a cool boss to me. Manga is like anything else, enjoy it in moderation. If he's simply saying hey, look at this hobby, I'm all for it. If he knows which Sailor Senshi he is and why, probably slide on out behind Rhymenoserous.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
Ugh, I hate managing people. Had a desktop person schedule a meeting with me and then vanish 5 minutes in only to arrive back 45 minutes after. Considering this was a 10 minute meeting to help her with a project I felt a little blown off. I was cool thinking it was some kind of bathroom/ticket emergency but nope, she went to get coffee and write down some serial numbers for her asset project. Hell, she even came to me to have this meeting.

It was difficult not to blow up on her.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

captkirk posted:

At a previous job our colo rack was at this shady, kind of cheapo datacenter. The holes for mounting rails were just a little too small to actually get the Dell rails into so everytime we went to rack a new server with Dell rails we had to spend 30 minutes with a small hand file.

Ah yes, filing metal in a datacenter. Pretty sure that would get you thrown out of most of them that I know of.

duffmensch
Feb 20, 2004

Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
poo poo pissing me off today: The reporting system wiping out all changes made in the past week with no warning. Everything up until 45 minutes ago is now gone - except that you don't know that it's gone until you try to access said report. At least I know why a report I was demoing "disappeared" in the middle of a presentation.

I'm eagerly awaiting the systems guys answer that nothing happened (:downs: "we swear!") and them telling us to start over again. From scratch, because the reporting system also has random problems with overwriting existing reports so you never know if the saved copy is good or not.

The best part is that we migrated to a new ticketing system last Saturday (including a new reporting system) and were still making constant revisions.

Edit: and everything in the past 30 minutes is gone as well!

duffmensch fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 28, 2015

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den
poo poo pissing me off: Apparently our cloud backup solution has not been running backups since May! :yayclod:

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





nimper posted:

poo poo pissing me off: Apparently our cloud backup solution has not been running backups since May! :yayclod:

And no one noticed? Someone should be checking that on a regular basis.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

nimper posted:

poo poo pissing me off: Apparently our cloud backup solution has not been running backups since May! :yayclod:

A backup solution that doesn't send you email based alerts for successful and non-successful backups is poo poo. Someone who doesn't set that up and check on it regularly is also poo poo.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ConfusedUs posted:

And no one noticed? Someone should be checking that on a regular basis.

No, a script should be checking that on a regular basis and should auto email the proper people if it goes down.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





ratbert90 posted:

No, a script should be checking that on a regular basis and should auto email the proper people if it goes down.

That qualifies as "checking" in my book.

Every backup application worth two cents will email you success and/or failure for any operation performed, natively. And of course you can monitor in other ways too.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

ConfusedUs posted:

That qualifies as "checking" in my book.

Every backup application worth two cents will email you success and/or failure for any operation performed, natively. And of course you can monitor in other ways too.

I still can't believe that software that doesn't do this exists and has a customer base.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

ConfusedUs posted:

And no one noticed? Someone should be checking that on a regular basis.

Nobody in our office noticed because we didn't need to access the backup until today.

Near as we can tell from the backup and access logs, someone from our MSP ran a firmware upgrade on the backup server back in May and forgot to reinitiate the backup schedule afterward.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

ConfusedUs posted:

That qualifies as "checking" in my book.

Every backup application worth two cents will email you success and/or failure for any operation performed, natively. And of course you can monitor in other ways too.

We used to have a client that wanted someone onsite for 3 hours from 7-10 to do be on the trading floor when markets opened. We had a junior admin/windows CJ assigned to it. I gave him a checklist of things to review, like making sure there was toner, checking all the file servers, reviewing error logs, checking backups, etc, just busy work. I used to sneak things in, like I'd pause the backup at 6am and see if he caught it, and he was pretty good. He was like a robot, you'd give him a task and he's accomplish it specifically and automatically.

He moved away and we hired a new guy, and he would piss and moan and complain that we had him doing all these checks, and that he could just write a script to automate them all, and he could just come in at 10. He didn't understand that the customer was willing to pay us three billable hours a day to have a warm body up there so just sit there and do it. He would go to the customer and say stuff like "you know I'm just doing nothing all morning, I can write a script to check..." he just didn't get it. Sure you can automate whatever, but they wanted a set of human eyeballs to look at everything, and would pay us $750 each morning for that. Why was he insistent on complaining his way out of the job? Eventually we just fired him.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:

We used to have a client that wanted someone onsite for 3 hours from 7-10 to do be on the trading floor when markets opened. We had a junior admin/windows CJ assigned to it. I gave him a checklist of things to review, like making sure there was toner, checking all the file servers, reviewing error logs, checking backups, etc, just busy work. I used to sneak things in, like I'd pause the backup at 6am and see if he caught it, and he was pretty good. He was like a robot, you'd give him a task and he's accomplish it specifically and automatically.

He moved away and we hired a new guy, and he would piss and moan and complain that we had him doing all these checks, and that he could just write a script to automate them all, and he could just come in at 10. He didn't understand that the customer was willing to pay us three billable hours a day to have a warm body up there so just sit there and do it. He would go to the customer and say stuff like "you know I'm just doing nothing all morning, I can write a script to check..." he just didn't get it. Sure you can automate whatever, but they wanted a set of human eyeballs to look at everything, and would pay us $750 each morning for that. Why was he insistent on complaining his way out of the job? Eventually we just fired him.

Some people are born with a lack of grey matter between their ears.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

Sickening posted:

A backup solution that doesn't send you email based alerts for successful and non-successful backups is poo poo. Someone who doesn't set that up and check on it regularly is also poo poo.

Our backup solution certainly has this capability, but it's only useful if the backups are actually set to run.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

nimper posted:

Our backup solution certainly has this capability, but it's only useful if the backups are actually set to run.

We agree. But not getting the alerts should have been the first clue for whoever managed that.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

Sickening posted:

We agree. But not getting the alerts should have been the first clue for whoever managed that.

Ah. Well, "not me" is the person who was supposed to manage that around here.

captkirk
Feb 5, 2010

AlternateAccount posted:

Ah yes, filing metal in a datacenter. Pretty sure that would get you thrown out of most of them that I know of.

Where do you think we got the file the first day we ran into this problem?

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:

We used to have a client that wanted someone onsite for 3 hours from 7-10 to do be on the trading floor when markets opened. We had a junior admin/windows CJ assigned to it. I gave him a checklist of things to review, like making sure there was toner, checking all the file servers, reviewing error logs, checking backups, etc, just busy work. I used to sneak things in, like I'd pause the backup at 6am and see if he caught it, and he was pretty good. He was like a robot, you'd give him a task and he's accomplish it specifically and automatically.

He moved away and we hired a new guy, and he would piss and moan and complain that we had him doing all these checks, and that he could just write a script to automate them all, and he could just come in at 10. He didn't understand that the customer was willing to pay us three billable hours a day to have a warm body up there so just sit there and do it. He would go to the customer and say stuff like "you know I'm just doing nothing all morning, I can write a script to check..." he just didn't get it. Sure you can automate whatever, but they wanted a set of human eyeballs to look at everything, and would pay us $750 each morning for that. Why was he insistent on complaining his way out of the job? Eventually we just fired him.

IT people have a unique way of intentionally trying to put themselves out of a job. It is kind of fun to watch.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
If I was getting paid to sit around with my thumb up my rear end I'd do it, but if I could in any way make my job easier and more foolproof by scripting and automating it I'd do it. I'd complain more about people doing things manually that they should be automating.

Script it, bring a book, and still show up in case something goes sideways.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

If I was getting paid to sit around with my thumb up my rear end I'd do it, but if I could in any way make my job easier and more foolproof by scripting and automating it I'd do it. I'd complain more about people doing things manually that they should be automating.

Script it, bring a book, and still show up in case something goes sideways.

The client specifically did not want anything scripted. They handed us a checklist and said "have someone check these manually every morning". I know it's a little asinine, but at $250/hour, I'd be happy to look at their DC error longs every morning.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





nimper posted:

Our backup solution certainly has this capability, but it's only useful if the backups are actually set to run.

This is why everyone should enable success notifications, too. That way someone can say "huh, why haven't I seen a 'backup complete' notice in a while..."

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

go3 posted:

IT people have a unique way of intentionally trying to put themselves out of a job. It is kind of fun to watch.

Yeah, the proper solution is that he should have automated the process, gone into work, ran the script, and chilled for 3 hours.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


ConfusedUs posted:

This is why everyone should enable success notifications, too. That way someone can say "huh, why haven't I seen a 'backup complete' notice in a while..."

You'll be like the guy from my previous job, who just set a filter to delete them. We had 1 that failed always, I recommended that we just delete it, the server it was supposed to back up was backed up with a different system on site because the LAN link caused the backup to fail every night. Nope just filter everything from sender to my trash can, success or fail!

Cryptowall was fun to recover from when it turns out the storage was full and most of the backups were failing.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


ratbert90 posted:

Yeah, the proper solution is that he should have automated the process, gone into work, ran the script, and chilled for 3 hours.

He clearly just wanted to sleep in.

the littlest prince
Sep 23, 2006


I wouldn't be surprised if I intentionally or nearly-intentionally put myself out of a job that was annoying, pointless, and boring.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

AlternateAccount posted:

Ah yes, filing metal in a datacenter. Pretty sure that would get you thrown out of most of them that I know of.
I have a customer who installed rear-door heat exchangers in their computer room, which involved installing a refrigeration infrastructure in the room as well. The contractor doing the installation cut and sweated all the pipe for the chiller lines that ran above the racks... as they installed it above the racks. :psyduck:

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:

The client specifically did not want anything scripted. They handed us a checklist and said "have someone check these manually every morning". I know it's a little asinine, but at $250/hour, I'd be happy to look at their DC error longs every morning.

Did the tech get that $250/hr? When you get told to do stuff you know is useless/worthless and even more so when people will admit is useless/worthless, the abstraction between the hourly billing and my hourly income gets hard to accept.

I mean, at a certain point you just have to suck it up or quit, but I'm not gonna fault the guy for disliking the situation.

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
Yeah, regardless of how much money someone wants to pay me to sit in a pile of mud each morning I'll still question the logic of it.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Again, he could just manually run the script. :smug:

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den
The lead MSP guy called the backup provider to verify that nothing was happening. He was told that there was a known bug with the recent firmware and other :words:

Of course the MSP guy was pretty embarrassed because he had no idea anything was wrong.


ConfusedUs posted:

This is why everyone should enable success notifications, too. That way someone can say "huh, why haven't I seen a 'backup complete' notice in a while..."

This is how it's going to be going forward.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Pissing me off outside of work: Having to manually edit device driver files because Asus pretends that the world outside of the US doesn't exist.

The drivers for Asus PCE-AC68 wireless NIC doesn't give you the option to select which region you're in for frequency band selection purposes. By default it will only operate on channels 36-64. So if you're like me and truthfully told your AP you're in Europe and the AP thus selected channel 108, the NIC won't see it.

You need to edit the driver .inf file and uncomment a bunch of lines to enable region selection and allow the NIC to use channels 100-140, then tell windows that yes, it's fine that this file no longer matches the driver signature, please load it anyway.

Thanks for wasting 2 hours of my evening, Asus.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

Yeah, regardless of how much money someone wants to pay me to sit in a pile of mud each morning I'll still question the logic of it.

Yeah it was a little boring. The previous robot dude just did it for two years with no complaint. It was really that the client wanted a warm body to be there for comfort's sake. They made the check list manual on purpose because they wanted some one mentally involved and not just kicking off a script and getting coffee and redditing for three hours. It was 99% psychological. There was plenty to do to keep busy had he wanted. His problem was that he just didn't get it and his attitude didn't fit. He was hired for that specific time and even had he an automated system, he just didn't get the Customer Service side of supporting an active trading floor. Also, even though he was salary he was also paid extra for each hour before 9 he worked because our support contract provided a higher rate for outside 9 to 5.

Also of course I did have an automated system in place, nagios, HPs switch management suite, and a few other things that escaped me. It's how I knew he wasn't doing anything most of the time.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I have been fighting my own Exchange server and mailbox for SO loving LONG TODAY AHHHHHHHHH that I am seriously about to just create myself a new account, stripe2, migrate all of my groups over to that, create myself a new mailbox, and start the gently caress over :ssj:

theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe

Collateral Damage posted:

If there's one thing I've learned in my years as a sysadmin it's that people who should know better still suck at deploying/managing RAID storage systems.

"Our RAID 6 is reporting multiple disks in a pre-fail state, lets replace two drives at once to make it rebuild quicker"

Hell no, I just know that one of the other disks would choose a time during that rebuild to fail.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:

theperminator posted:

"Our RAID 6 is reporting multiple disks in a pre-fail state, lets replace two drives at once to make it rebuild quicker"

Hell no, I just know that one of the other disks would choose a time during that rebuild to fail.

I've known people to do that with a RAID 5. :downs:

Although I'm confused as to why I got a ticket today from someone who had a hard drive fail in their uber important server with a RAID 0, and now the whole company is down...

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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Can someone explain what is wrong with large RAID 5 arrays? I know that it increases chance of failure, but shouldn't the fault tolerance of RAID 5 counter that?

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