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Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

most of the non-translator skills are from random missions. If you look at each mission on the iDroid it'll show you some available skills you can get from fultoning guys in it


Much thanks. Gonna pay more attention before I go in.

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CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Mel Mudkiper posted:

So, a critic pointed out the game feels surprisingly similar to Far Cry. I don't disagree, I can see a lot of similarities but it also feels different in a lot of ways. Thoughts?

I don't really see it, yeah they both have outposts and shooting but Far Cry is a sandbox with some missions while TPP is missions with a sandbox, and also a plot. And also good

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Seriously, I'm confused about the Side Op mission accessible in Mission 3. Something about a special target guy to acquire... its a big purple area circle (with a river bisecting it) where just north of it (outside of the circle) is like the Yakoo Ooboo (?) base. I interrogated a few guys and they were like "Here's a specialist!" and my map updated and I couldn't tell where/who that was... or even if I was still in the mission area. (I think not because when I go into it it gives me a message that I am in it...)

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Can't connect to servers and just unlocked FOB's :gonk:

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Mid gane spoiler ust when you thought they got rid of the worst MGS characters....

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

the guy you need for DD's suit is in mission 9, the skill is electrospinning specialist. He's probably the guy being transported in the jeep they call you about since I think that's the only prisoner I extracted.

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet

lets hang out posted:

the guy you need for DD's suit is in mission 9, the skill is electrospinning specialist. He's probably the guy being transported in the jeep they call you about since I think that's the only prisoner I extracted.

You are the best.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

So, a critic pointed out the game feels surprisingly similar to Far Cry. I don't disagree, I can see a lot of similarities but it also feels different in a lot of ways. Thoughts?

I thought it felt like Far Cry a little bit, but ONLY because of the wildlife. Everything else is Metal Gear.


quote:

Seriously, I'm confused about the Side Op mission accessible in Mission 3. Something about a special target guy to acquire... its a big purple area circle (with a river bisecting it) where just north of it (outside of the circle) is like the Yakoo Ooboo (?) base. I interrogated a few guys and they were like "Here's a specialist!" and my map updated and I couldn't tell where/who that was... or even if I was still in the mission area. (I think not because when I go into it it gives me a message that I am in it...)

What do you mean IN Mission 3?

Neon Knight
Jan 14, 2009

DreamShipWrecked posted:

I don't really see it, yeah they both have outposts and shooting but Far Cry is a sandbox with some missions while TPP is missions with a sandbox, and also a plot. And also good

Far Cry has a bow and a wingsuit to its credit. Also, lots of meaningless poo poo to collect to make it stand apart. Other than that Far Cry can't compete with MGS5. The AI in Far Cry is not fun to mess with and the design of areas for stealth options feels sloppy.

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied
Ok we know DHorse poop spins out jeeps. What about the larger vehicles?

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

KidDynamite posted:

Can't connect to servers and just unlocked FOB's :gonk:

Jesus Christ, when? I have been waiting forever to get one, I was starting to think the feature got delayed

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

I had to load a checkpoint because DD got in my kick's way when I tried to wake someone up to question him :(.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Oh gently caress this. I need help, (early boss spoiler) How do I even sneak around the sniper boss? They see me almost immediately even when prone and covered in camo and when I mark the mark goes away seconds later. This is really, really not fun at all.

GeauxSteve
Feb 26, 2004
Nubzilla
So how do you build up loyalty with your companions? D Horse is still at 0 for me.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


quadrophrenic posted:

How did you guys do mission 6? I wanna talk stratz.

I just attempted to run around the perimeter going counter-clockwise into the caves, but I didn't fulton anyone because there were a couple of guards in a tower who would always spot my balloons. So instead I took out everyone and just left their sleeping bodies stashed in a corner somewhere, until I had gotten into the caves missing the prisoner and eventually after tranq'ing all but two guards in the whole fort, some dudes woke up and started an alert chain reaction while i was fumbling around looking for the honey bee which i couldn't find because i missed the prisoner. And that took about an hour and I restarted from checkpoint and promptly ragequit.

So I want to get to that dude, but he is awfully heavily guarded. What would be the best sneaky-sneaky way to get to him?


For as good as I tend to think I am at stealth, I really have a problem taking care of two guys at once, esp. at this point in the game.

I ran into the car when he was the only person sitting inside, and then drove off for a bit so I could pull him out and fulton him. There's a cliff face you can climb up near the road that he's being interrogated on.

Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Jesus Christ, when? I have been waiting forever to get one, I was starting to think the feature got delayed

I think someone said mission 17 or something? It's after a certain story point I'm pretty sure. Either high teens or low-mid 20s.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

GeauxSteve posted:

So how do you build up loyalty with your companions? D Horse is still at 0 for me.

Ride him. I have 4 or 5 pips and I ride him whenever the target it over 500 meters away.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Jesus Christ, when? I have been waiting forever to get one, I was starting to think the feature got delayed

Mission 22

Machinegunboyo
Apr 26, 2010


life is good

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Jesus Christ, when? I have been waiting forever to get one, I was starting to think the feature got delayed

around mission 22

charismaslover
Dec 3, 2006

Too stylish for this world...
Man, this game is loving huge :stare:

42 hours in and I've finished 'Chapter 1' which is up to and including main mission 31, then you get a trailer for 'Chapter 2' and more main missions unlock not to mention all of the side ops that I still need to do :stonklol:

Regarding D-Dog equipment - I've just developed a fulton suit for D-Dog and can order him to fulton soldiers/prisoners for me. I think I'll be using D-Dog almost all the time now, he's the best

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
When did Ocelot become the voice of reason lmao this game is nuts.

Trier
Aug 8, 2011

Stupid Newbie
Does playing as a generic soldier have any effects on gameplay? Does an E-rank soldier shoot like poo poo or get caught easily or something? Can you level up their skills by doing stuff with them?

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet

Red Mundus posted:

Oh gently caress this. I need help, (early boss spoiler) How do I even sneak around the sniper boss? They see me almost immediately even when prone and covered in camo and when I mark the mark goes away seconds later. This is really, really not fun at all.

Stay near your starting point. You get a pretty decent vantage point of the areas where she shows up. Look for rifle glint, laser sights, or bullet paths to judge the angle she is aiming from. The mic on your binoculars will pick up her humming. Marking her over and over is a bitch but not that bad. Call in supply drops on her exact postition to cheese her stamina bar if you just want to move on. It's also not recommended that you try to get close to her.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

KidDynamite posted:

Can't connect to servers and just unlocked FOB's :gonk:

Speaking of this, have they mentioned any updates on what the hell is going on with their servers and the so-called "server maintenance"?

Reztes
Jun 20, 2003

Neon Knight posted:

I beat that early mission with a sort of boss fight. After the fight you just need to extract.. So I took that opportunity to wander around the now clear area for all the goodies. As an idiot I fell off a platform and ruined my no retries score and probably lost my first S rank. On the plus side, I fultoned a bunch of soldiers left stunned by the boss and I think they all had service medals because of that. If you are at the end of a mission and there are no one left around you, just start stealing poo poo, also blow up the Air Radar and you can likely call extraction right on top of you.

Oh, yeah I had an awesome time doing this one too. There was an enemy fort with a helipad surrounded by walls and guard towers, with a single gate at the front. I extracted a prisoner, blew up my pre-placed C4 on the air radar, then tossed smoke into the gateway. Literally holding down the fort waiting for extraction with that prisoner felt amazingly badass.


I've also been thinking about the level of stealth vs. action in this game in regards to earlier posters talking about how much sneaking the game should allow or require and it really makes sense to me to allow and encourage much more open conflict. Granted I have not played GZ or Peace Walker, so I'd like to know if those games put me way off base here.

In earlier MGS games, we hear Snake(s) talk about THE BATTLEFIELD all the time, Snake is described as the ultimate soldier, not the ultimate spy or secret agent, and yet prior to this game, all we got to see was infiltration and covert ops. It's really awesome to see Snake/Big Boss in this new context, kind of proving or re-forging his reputation. It makes total sense to have different rules of engagement for the front lines of the Soviet-Afghan war than for infiltration of secret Russian/US installations. Sure I've got to sneak past patrols or whatever when the consequences for capture or detection include a nuclear exchange, but here, hell, if I'm out on patrol and I've just encountered a Afghan fighter taken prisoner by like a platoon of Russian soldiers in an active war zone, why shouldn't I hit them with some grenades or artillery before gunning the rest down with an unsuppressed AK?

At the same time, after the dust clears and there are 3-4 guys rolling around in agony with a 20% or whatever chance to survive Fulton extraction, I do feel kinda lovely... like there must be a better way :smith:. That aftermath more than anything encourages me to sneak around and be less of a monster, not to mention all the potential recruits for Mother Base I'm missing out on.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Red Mundus posted:

Oh gently caress this. I need help, (early boss spoiler) How do I even sneak around the sniper boss? They see me almost immediately even when prone and covered in camo and when I mark the mark goes away seconds later. This is really, really not fun at all.

Warning: I have the dumbest and most hilarious way to beat this boss, so read on if u dare

Do you just want to sneak around her or are you trying to sneak up to her to fight her? I beat her by spotting her and calling in supply drops on her head, then baiting out a shot while it was en route so she'd stay in place and get bonked. Two air drops will beat her and you get an S rank lmao

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:

Reztes posted:

In earlier MGS games, we hear Snake(s) talk about THE BATTLEFIELD all the time, Snake is described as the ultimate soldier, not the ultimate spy or secret agent, and yet prior to this game, all we got to see was infiltration and covert ops. It's really awesome to see Snake/Big Boss in this new context, kind of proving or re-forging his reputation. It makes total sense to have different rules of engagement for the front lines of the Soviet-Afghan war than for infiltration of secret Russian/US installations. Sure I've got to sneak past patrols or whatever when the consequences for capture or detection include a nuclear exchange, but here, hell, if I'm out on patrol and I've just encountered a Afghan fighter taken prisoner by like a platoon of Russian soldiers in an active war zone, why shouldn't I hit them with some grenades or artillery before gunning the rest down with an unsuppressed AK?

At some point Ocelot should really say "remember, Snake, this is so very much not a sneaking mission" to drive the point home.

Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014

Red Mundus posted:

Oh gently caress this. I need help, (early boss spoiler) How do I even sneak around the sniper boss? They see me almost immediately even when prone and covered in camo and when I mark the mark goes away seconds later. This is really, really not fun at all.

Crawl left. You can sprint short distances as long as you break line of sight before long. The left has lots of various little cover areas.

e: I had a sniper though woops.

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

I dunno snake, is it really a good idea to Fulton the guy who just gave up the location of his former allies almost immediately?

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Zelder posted:

I dunno snake, is it really a good idea to Fulton the guy who just gave up the location of his former allies almost immediately?

Snake recruited Chico. Just saying.

Dr Snofeld
Apr 30, 2009


I am never going to achieve a success like this again.

A neat little thing I noticed is that you can seemingly unlock the logos for the PMCs from MGS4 as emblem parts. Not sure what the criteria are but I got the Octopus one.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



gently caress mission 10. gently caress that fortress. gently caress that checkpoint.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Steve2911 posted:

gently caress mission 10. gently caress that fortress. gently caress that checkpoint.

Just go around back?

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Dexo posted:

Just go around back?

There is no back. Unless you mean the first place, which was fine.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

So how is the game without reflex? Crushing hard or just a bit slower?

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

DreamShipWrecked posted:

So how is the game without reflex? Crushing hard or just a bit slower?

Harder, but not crushing.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

A reminder that it has to be Tranq ammo you use, and if you so happen to have the Riot SMG that uses STUN damage, they are very different things and Stun won't work on those guys.

Also do all Heavy Infantry turn around and smack you if you try to hold them up or did i just get a random tough guy?

a normal dude did that to me when i lowered my gun for a sec. it was really badass

Veotax
May 16, 2006


How do you pop out the end of the box when you have the horizontal posters equipped? Like this:



I can't figure out how to do it.

Whoa. Wife Turds
Jan 23, 2004

FELLOW GOONS: WHEN THIS POSTER OFFERS TO BRAID YOUR PUBES, SAY NO!!!

ShadowMar posted:

So I just saw that cutscene in the medbay and that certainly changes things :suspense:

Can someone explain what this is, when it happens, and if it's on youtube? I keep hearing about a "secret" cutscene but nothing's showing on google.

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goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Dr Snofeld posted:



I am never going to achieve a success like this again.

A neat little thing I noticed is that you can seemingly unlock the logos for the PMCs from MGS4 as emblem parts. Not sure what the criteria are but I got the Octopus one.

Pretty sure you got it for finishing a mission with Octopus rank, as shown above. I got Doberman once and unlocked the logo for that. You can see an overview of what the different ranks require in the Motherbase Database in your iDroid but there are a few hidden ones too

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