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MC Eating Disorder posted:Nah they should target me because I'm also unaligned and I not only shitpost but sometimes I get upset and swear a lot They should target me for maximum hilarity
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Well I can't argue with that
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Sep 4, 2015 01:41
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MC Eating Disorder posted:Well I can't argue with that You don't even know man, you don't even know.
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Sep 4, 2015 01:43
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I don't see how I'm a threat right now when I'm basically just vanilla at this point in the middle of a role madness game.
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Sep 4, 2015 01:44
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Magnus Gallant posted:Could you further explain why you think hiipfires response is totally towne? HiipFire posted:In my mind at this point he's basically another 3rd party and I don't like keeping 3rd parties around To me this is HiipFire saying "he is a threat EVENTUALLY and POTENTIALLY, and that makes me nervous." I can completely understand, without any guarantee of knowledge of the mechanics of the game that a scum team would have since they would be coordinating their roles, being one of the early town members to see that claim and say "yeah that makes him really dangerous." That is a town mindset.
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Sep 4, 2015 01:51
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By comparison, look how Kashuno analyzed this claim:Kashuno posted:I severely question this because it's weird, but otoh you were completely up front about everything in Complete Bullshit so idk maybe total honesty in your meta. No real opinion. "You bringing this up is scummy but maybe it's not because meta and the way you played before!" This is a safe, looking like I'm contributing post. By itself, might not be anything early game, but when I pressed him on it: Kashuno posted:Given his history, I think it's a null read. Most people I'd be a bit sus of making a statement like that. This again says absolutely nothing. Of course it's a null read because he's saying "i'm a null role." I still can't see a reason why scum would bring that up, and I said as much when people were asking about it. But Kashuno doesn't say "it's a null read because if that's his role he'd be able to go either way," Kashuno says "it's a null read, BUT if someone made a claim like that I'd be suspicious of them." Two things with that: 1. he again is not committing to an opinion on it, just floating ideas that he could latch on to. 2. Once again he's subtly using meta arguments to potentially push a case. And THEN once people actually form opinions and votes start to form on Imgay: Kashuno posted:I don't like a guy who could become some crazy role in a couple days ##vote imgay He's right that he's never stated this, but why wouldn't he have thought that before? Especially when HiipFire floated it immediately and he could have commented on it as he was answering my question at the same time that HiipFire was? It's safe to make this claim now because it's the popular opinion, and again, if Imgay actually has NO alignment when he flips, well then Kashuno doesn't look bad. He doubles down on other people's casework here: Kashuno posted:I see your point re: easy for scum to jump on. However, it's probably not a great idea for the game to have someone that can be turned scum and also assigned a role by Either town or scum. Seems like a risky player to leave around. And then when called out on it: Kashuno posted:Almost like someone pointed out something I hadn't considered originally that changed my thinking Ok, cool, you actually did say "I didn't consider that, that's a great point." Why didn't you vote then or continue to build the case? The way you rode this looks scummy as hell.
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Sep 4, 2015 01:56
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Quidnose posted:By comparison, look how Kashuno analyzed this claim: I agree with your points on k but is he new?
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Sep 4, 2015 02:12
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Nah I'm 7-8 games deep now
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Sep 4, 2015 02:13
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Quid haven't you played enough games with me yet to notice I make posts with null reads that people say "why did he bother saying that" all the time, especially d1? I tend to vote a lot, float a lot of ideas, and the settle down somewhere by day end which we aren't really close to. I'm pretty sure I don't go d1 in any game without a few votes on me
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Sep 4, 2015 02:20
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isn't he more likely to be town because town outnumbner scum?
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Sep 4, 2015 02:28
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I guess that's possible, depending on how many recruiters town has vs what I would guess is one scum recruiter
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Sep 4, 2015 02:32
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Kashuno posted:Quid haven't you played enough games with me yet to notice I make posts with null reads that people say "why did he bother saying that" all the time, especially d1? I tend to vote a lot, float a lot of ideas, and the settle down somewhere by day end which we aren't really close to. I'm pretty sure I don't go d1 in any game without a few votes on me Yes, I do get that. Doesn't change my mind about seeing the way that unfolded in this particular instance and get bad vibes. If you continue to do what you usually do I'll probably change my mind, but for what it's worth this ~feels~ a little less "looking around figuring it out" and a little more "well that was easy to latch on to, I lucked out with people taking my poo poo an runnin' with it"
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Votecount for Day 1  imgay (4): HiipFire, Magnus Gallant, Opopanax, Kashuno HiipFire (1): imgay Epsilon Plus (1): Amnistar Kashuno (1): Quidnose Not Voting (13): AnonymousNarcotics, bowmore, CapitalistPig, Chic Trombone, Epsilon Plus, garthoneeye, King Burgundy, Kleedrac, Little Mac, ljtrigirl, MC Eating Disorder, Mithross, Tremendous TasteWith 20 alive, it's 11 votes to lynch. The current deadline is September 04th, 2015 at 8 p.m. PDT -- that's in about 1 day, 1 hour.
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Sep 4, 2015 02:48
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While I understand the sentiment of "he could be dangerous" and we won't be able to trust him moving forward unless he ends up confirmed masons with a dead person or something, I think imgay is a waste of a cuddle today. Gives us zero information. Really we should probably no cuddle today so people can start makign connections because what are we going to get from it?
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Sep 4, 2015 03:03
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Quidnose posted:Really we should probably no cuddle today so people can start makign connections because what are we going to get from it? But any connections we draw today are going to be suspect tomorrow, which means we're damned if we do and damned if we dont.
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Sep 4, 2015 03:21
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No lynching is always a bad idea. Especially on day 1 when we have nothing to go on so far
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Sep 4, 2015 04:05
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Yeah, no cuddle on day one is horrible. It means tomorrow is still day 1.
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Sep 4, 2015 04:07
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wait who suggested a nolunch? am i reading this thread wrong
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Sep 4, 2015 04:44
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Chic Trombone posted:wait who suggested a nolunch? am i reading this thread wrong Quidnose posted:While I understand the sentiment of "he could be dangerous" and we won't be able to trust him moving forward unless he ends up confirmed masons with a dead person or something, I think imgay is a waste of a cuddle today. Gives us zero information.
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Sep 4, 2015 04:47
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oh. yeah ok i missed that. Quidnose you should know better than that by now my dude, nolunching D1 is literally the worst idea
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Sep 4, 2015 05:02
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Yeah I half floated that to see what people would say. Unfortunately I probably did it a little early. There is a part of me that is kinda like "without a lot of town connections and things changing maybe it is a waste of time" but immediately as I posted it I was like "actually that's probably done but let's see what people says" and then I was like "hey good scum finder" 
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Sep 4, 2015 05:48
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would scum quidnose float the idea of a day 1 no cuddle
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Sep 4, 2015 05:54
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bowmore posted:would scum quidnose float the idea of a day 1 no cuddle Anti-backwards scum Quidnose would, and for all I know that's an alignment in this game.
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Mithross posted:Anti-backwards scum Quidnose would, and for all I know that's an alignment in this game. Are you implying I have a post restriction as scum that says "act scummy as possible to be anti-meta quidnose!" because that's kinda dumb. But I don't really see what else you might be saying because if you think it's not in my meta then I wouldn't be doing it unless I was actively going against my meta, which wouldn't be game enforced. Your post is a weird joke that kinda gives me bad vibes~
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Sep 4, 2015 07:00
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imgay posted:scum post well im sorry that my reading up on the role made me more sympathetic towards the not lynching of you
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Sep 4, 2015 07:16
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Quidnose posted:Are you implying I have a post restriction as scum that says "act scummy as possible to be anti-meta quidnose!" because that's kinda dumb. But I don't really see what else you might be saying because if you think it's not in my meta then I wouldn't be doing it unless I was actively going against my meta, which wouldn't be game enforced. It's a futurama quote. Well, sort of. They have an Anti-backwards crystal, not quidnose. So basically I'm saying Bender is great.
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Sep 4, 2015 07:24
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Well ok.
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Quidnose posted:Really we should probably no cuddle today so people can start makign connections because what are we going to get from it? Quidnose posted:Yeah I half floated that to see what people would say. Unfortunately I probably did it a little early. This reads like a serious backpedal IMO. Bets so hedged they're carved into swans.
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You completely leave out the part where I explain how, after posting, I came to that conclusion, and that's lazy and misrepresentative. I don't think there's really any way you look at me saying "yeah I get you, I thought of that, and ended up rolling with it even though I didn't even fully agree with myself because I wanted to see how people responded" as a disingenuous backpedal for something that didn't take traction, especially when I called Kashuno out for doing the same thing and clearly documented how he did it. That'd be pretty silly. It's also pretty silly you leave out that essential part of my post to make your part and I'm so curious as to why that's what you did, since you prove my point of it being effective as a reaction gauge! 
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Quidnose posted:It's also pretty silly you leave out that essential part of my post to make your part and I'm so curious as to why that's what you did, since you prove my point of it being effective as a reaction gauge! Mafia edit: Case, not part.
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Quidnose posted:There is a part of me that is kinda like "without a lot of town connections and things changing maybe it is a waste of time" but immediately as I posted it I was like "actually that's probably done but let's see what people says" and then I was like "hey good scum finder" That should also read as "dumb," not done. There are some problems with the clarity of this post but the intent isn't one of them so I'm confused, E+man!
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Quidnose posted:You completely leave out the part where I explain how, after posting, I came to that conclusion, and that's lazy and misrepresentative. I don't think there's really any way you look at me saying "yeah I get you, I thought of that, and ended up rolling with it even though I didn't even fully agree with myself because I wanted to see how people responded" as a disingenuous backpedal for something that didn't take traction, especially when I called Kashuno out for doing the same thing and clearly documented how he did it. That'd be pretty silly. It's also pretty silly you leave out that essential part of my post to make your part and I'm so curious as to why that's what you did, since you prove my point of it being effective as a reaction gauge! This mostly reads as some puppetmaster poo poo? I left out the "essential" part of your post because it read half self-explanatory and half self-congratulatory. You floated the idea of a no-lunch and then immediately said "oh I was just doing it to get reactions". Well, you got mine. Trap sprung. I guess.
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Quidnose posted:Are you implying I have a post restriction as scum that says "act scummy as possible to be anti-meta quidnose!" because that's kinda dumb. But I don't really see what else you might be saying because if you think it's not in my meta then I wouldn't be doing it unless I was actively going against my meta, which wouldn't be game enforced. ##vote Quid
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Sep 4, 2015 12:02
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Quidnose posted:While I understand the sentiment of "he could be dangerous" and we won't be able to trust him moving forward unless he ends up confirmed masons with a dead person or something, I think imgay is a waste of a cuddle today. Gives us zero information. It gives opportunity to look at who made weak/hedgy votes, who made strong votes, who opposed it. It basically gives us everything except a definitive flip, which on D1 isn't even that much to go off of imo
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Quidnose posted:Yeah I half floated that to see what people would say. Unfortunately I probably did it a little early. This reads to me as someone who is seriously trying to backpedal.
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Sep 4, 2015 15:03
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##vote quid and subsequent posts aren't great either
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Sep 4, 2015 15:03
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Quidnose posted:Really we should probably no cuddle today so people can start makign connections because what are we going to get from it? We lynch somebody that is no loss to town and is a possible loss to scum as they can no longer recruit him? Even as a "trap sprung" idea this is pretty silly. Did it help you locate scum? HiipFire posted:Except it does? I don't really agree with this idea, however. He's not aligned with anyone, so I don't think judging who does/doesn't vote him gets us much information.
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Sep 4, 2015 15:11
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CapitalistPig posted:This reads to me as someone who is seriously trying to backpedal. This feels like a weird bandwagon thing without any of your own thought behind it. ##vote CapitalistPig
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Sep 4, 2015 15:37
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King Burgundy posted:This feels like a weird bandwagon thing without any of your own thought behind it. lol look at this scumbo
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King Burgundy posted:This feels like a weird bandwagon thing without any of your own thought behind it. please enlighten us as oh great and wise KB who now appears to be trying to swing votes away from someone who is acting more scummy than me to protect his scumbuddy.
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