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I think cpig lie is cpig is scum. ##vote cpig
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Sorry for not being around day 1 guys - my time should be more free this week. I'm OK with the C-Pig lynch but I'm still not happy with E+ ... after my calling him out day 1 he said;Epsilon Plus posted:Town converts him, potential watcher/tracker information, someone's flip indicates they convert people - it's like you didn't even try to think about what I said? It was ignored because I come up with idiot thought-experiments in every single game. I don't even know why I verbalize them anymore, Somber is the only one who ever seems to appreciate them. Fast forward to Day 2 and we get; Epsilon Plus posted:They are a huge pain in the rear end. Epsilon Plus posted:I think I may want to vote cpig today but I want to mull it over a bit. It seems like a good plan but there are some holes I haven't resolved. ##Vote Epsilon Plus
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Sep 6, 2015 19:28
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ljtrigirl posted:Whelp, I totally didn't realize that lynch was yesterday, and I kinda thought that Taste was good, so I'm like 0/2 so far. Taste's entire. post. history. Tremendous Taste posted:Hey Tremendous Taste posted:I don't read quid favorably here. The end. Epsilon Plus posted:Taste is pretty good at being affable and likable IMO so nobody blames you. I would like to know: 1. Why LTJgirl thought taste was town 2. Why E+ is not reading the thread and buddying up to LTJgirl
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Sep 6, 2015 20:31
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Epsilon Plus posted:Also Quidnose I am sorry I got so frustrated with you. Consider that I may not be scum for today? Often times I get lovely with people who constantly misread what I say because it's really frustrating to be on the same side as someone (possibly at least). Please accept my apology if I offended you in any way. I don't even remember you doing anything that made me upset, I just remember you doing a bunch of stuff I thought was disingenuous and made you look scummy and then bein' upset about it. I get you were frustrated that I was potentially misreading you, but I already think you kinda did the same thing today sooo if I think you're still scum because of your play I'm sorry if you're not but sorry not sorry if you are 
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Sep 6, 2015 20:34
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Amnistar posted:Will move my vote if someone has a case that makes sense, but right now I don't see anything that is more appealing to me than lynching the guy that doesn't have an alignment, and whose alignment is legitimately determined by someone who has no incentive to place him with town (3p). What do you think of the case against E+ I laid out yesterday? Do you have thoughts on the Cpig debacle? Do you think I am scum? These are three major talking points from a day that ended in a no cuddle and it's kinda odd you're dismissing them as "nothing really going on." We didn't end on a no cuddle yesterday for lack of content, we ended there for lack of effort on people's parts.
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Sep 6, 2015 20:35
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Quidnose posted:1. Why LTJgirl thought taste was town I can theorize on 1: ltjgirl misremembered reading Taste's posts, got a null tell from her (?) memories (possibly combined with a meta) and went with it. 2 I can answer a bit more forcefully: I am reading the thread, and I'm being friendly with a newbie. I am in this to win just as much as you are, but that doesn't mean I can't also have a friendly time of fun and japes.
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Sep 6, 2015 21:19
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Although an alternative answer to 1 is that she is scum and Taste coached her on potential responses to this kind of thing. Taste is good at advice for newbies.
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Sep 6, 2015 21:21
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Epsilon Plus posted:I can theorize on 1: ltjgirl misremembered reading Taste's posts, got a null tell from her (?) memories (possibly combined with a meta) and went with it. I'm just confused as to why you saw a newer person making a bold claim like that, especially after people saying "what, taste was in this game?" and instead of having a reaction of "why is this person thinking taste was town" as I did, you immediately jumped to "it's OK taste is a lot of fun in games so nobody will blame you for thinking he was town." It's a really, really weird connection wtihout him, you know, having done that in this game.
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Sep 6, 2015 21:37
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Kleedrac, if I am scum, who is scum with me?
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Sep 6, 2015 22:39
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anyone else play world of warcraft?
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Sep 6, 2015 22:47
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wrong thread sorry
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Sep 6, 2015 22:47
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Quidnose posted:1. Why LTJgirl thought taste was town This feels like a solid catch
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Sep 6, 2015 22:59
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Epsilon Plus posted:Kleedrac, if I am scum, who is scum with me? So instead of denying it or explaining anything you've opted to go with the defense that unless I divine your entire team I can't accuse you of being suspicious as hell?! Have you ever played this game before? You're seriously not making any sense.
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Sep 6, 2015 23:49
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Kleedrac posted:So instead of denying it or explaining anything you've opted to go with the defense that unless I divine your entire team I can't accuse you of being suspicious as hell?! Have you ever played this game before? You're seriously not making any sense. You know they've played befor.
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Sep 6, 2015 23:57
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My biggest problem with the "Cpig is exactly what he said he is" theory is that I can't imagine him openly declaring lynchbomb. Jester, yes. I could see jester cpig announce he was a jester, just to make the win that much sweeter. But I don't think he would have overreached and called lynchbomb. ##vote CPig I don't know what you are, but I don't think you'll flip as either town or vanilla unaligned.
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Sep 7, 2015 00:15
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Opopanax posted:This feels like a solid catch It could be, but it doesn't feel 100% to me. Kleedrac posted:So instead of denying it or explaining anything you've opted to go with the defense that unless I divine your entire team I can't accuse you of being suspicious as hell?! Have you ever played this game before? You're seriously not making any sense. Or maybe I'm just trying to stimulate some discussion? I appear to be the focus of the day, so we may as well have a discussion about it. You can call me suspicious all you want - I know my own alignment. You're really aggro over this.
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Sep 7, 2015 00:18
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Epsilon Plus posted:It could be, but it doesn't feel 100% to me. You just have no intention of sounding town, do you?
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Sep 7, 2015 00:33
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Magnus Gallant posted:You know they've played befor. Yes, it was a sarcastic dig at E+ for playing so scummy. Opopanax posted:You just have no intention of sounding town, do you? I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this.
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Sep 7, 2015 01:02
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Endeavoring to sound town would probably make me sound more scummy. Let me try something else: Kleedrac thinks I'm scum for not denying the fact that I am scum. Claiming town us the nullest thing possible; everyone here is going to claim town or beneficial 3P. So... not much to do there. I can claim I am town (did that earlier) or not give a poo poo. He also seems to think I'm scum for not explaining myself. So, Kleedrac, what can I explain for you?
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Sep 7, 2015 01:06
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Quidnose posted:Taste's entire. post. history. Yeah, totally mixed up MC and Taste and thought that Taste was MC.
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Sep 7, 2015 01:13
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Also, I don't see how town could recruit as well without it being super broken or really even how groups can recruit from each other. Because then you'll know everyone that in that group that you just left.
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Sep 7, 2015 01:16
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ljtrigirl posted:Also, I don't see how town could recruit as well without it being super broken or really even how groups can recruit from each other. Because then you'll know everyone that in that group that you just left. You're correct, assuming Met doesn't have something fucky planned. I mean, Taste did die - it could be a SK, or a nightvig, or someone tried to recruit him and instead of the action failing it murders the person instead?
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Sep 7, 2015 02:55
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ljtrigirl posted:Yeah, totally mixed up MC and Taste and thought that Taste was MC. So wait. You thought the self proclaimed unaligned player was good instead of Taste? Right now I'm feeling like Quid caught us a scum. ##vote ljtrigirl
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Sep 7, 2015 03:00
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King Burgundy posted:So wait. You thought the self proclaimed unaligned player was good instead of Taste? I don't think MC claimed self aligned until today, did he?
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Sep 7, 2015 03:03
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I'm bummed out that you guys wouldn't do Cpig with me yesterday. But having slept on it, I'm starting to firmly believe he isn't actually scum. I still think he's likely not town though, so it probably would have been a good cuddle. I'll hop back on it if that is how we want to go today, but I think I'll be pursuing others.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:05
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Quidnose posted:I don't think MC claimed self aligned until today, did he? Naw. MC Eating Disorder posted:Nah they should target me because I'm also unaligned and I not only shitpost but sometimes I get upset and swear a lot This isn't his only post about it. From 3 days ago RL.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:06
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I don't remember him claiming that, but I do remembering MC ED having contributed yesterday, AND his name was mentioned with the flips, so from those two aspects it is easy to see LTJGirl as telling the truth. She may very well be covering her rear end now, but it's a narrative that I can understand. E+, with none of that information about her mixing up MCED and Taste, should not have given her a "it's ok people get confused because Taste plays nicely" pat on the head when taste hadn't played period. That is far more scummy.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:13
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Quidnose posted:I don't remember him claiming that, but I do remembering MC ED having contributed yesterday, AND his name was mentioned with the flips, so from those two aspects it is easy to see LTJGirl as telling the truth. She may very well be covering her rear end now, but it's a narrative that I can understand. Yeah he contributed. I still think calling someone unaligned "good" is weird. But I'll concede the point. E+ was similarly bizarre in his response. I'd vote there too.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:20
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Can you explain why I would do that if I knew Taste was scum... after everyone else learned he was scum? Why would I out myself like that? What would my thought process be?
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Sep 7, 2015 03:21
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CapitalistPig posted:I'm a little upset I didn't get lynched yesterday. I don't believe you still. I'm also not sure why you didn't include "plus quidnose is around still" when you were so happy yesterday to be blowing me up as the hammer. Why isn't this also part of your disappointment? Everything about your play right now stinks of liesss
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Sep 7, 2015 03:22
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Epsilon Plus posted:Can you explain why I would do that if I knew Taste was scum... after everyone else learned he was scum? Why would I out myself like that? What would my thought process be? No, but I have no burden to do that. Onus is kind of on you to explain why you did what you did and why it wasn't scumming rather than passing the buck on to us.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:24
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King Burgundy posted:So wait. You thought the self proclaimed unaligned player was good instead of Taste? a) He didn't claim until today. b) I came in, was like "that's the guy I thought was good. drat." and then realized I was wrong when I saw MC post because of his avatar. c) There are like 15 people in this game that I've vaguely seen post in the discussion thread and haven't played with. Sue me for mixing them up.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:30
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King Burgundy posted:I'm bummed out that you guys wouldn't do Cpig with me yesterday. But having slept on it, I'm starting to firmly believe he isn't actually scum. What changed your mind on him?
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Sep 7, 2015 03:31
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Epsilon Plus posted:Can you explain why I would do that if I knew Taste was scum... after everyone else learned he was scum? Why would I out myself like that? What would my thought process be? Trying to buddy up? Couldn't think of better fake content to post at that moment and thought it would be harmless? Wanted to partially excuse yourself if you'd ever brought up Taste this game? (You probably didn't, since he was a non-entity, just listing off reasons). I'm not in your head, can't say for certain.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:32
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King Burgundy posted:Yeah he contributed. I still think calling someone unaligned "good" is weird. But I'll concede the point. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I don't get what you think my agenda would be here. Like, if I was evil with Taste, I sure as hell would have know that he'd flipped after not saying anything.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:32
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Epsilon Plus posted:Can you explain why I would do that if I knew Taste was scum... after everyone else learned he was scum? Why would I out myself like that? What would my thought process be? Dude.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:33
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ljtrigirl posted:a) He didn't claim until today. Yes he did. I quoted his post from D1. He in fact, had several other posts about it as well, although they weren't all as straight forward as the one I quoted. Let me know if you need me to dig them all up for you. And if your general argument for the rest is that you aren't paying attention. That doesn't help your case, since I realize it is harder to pay attention and care about your opinions when you are scum. 
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Sep 7, 2015 03:35
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King Burgundy posted:Yes he did. I quoted his post from D1. He in fact, had several other posts about it as well, although they weren't all as straight forward as the one I quoted. Let me know if you need me to dig them all up for you. Meh. Actually, it's kind of the other way around for me. I don't really like early game in most mafia games, so it takes me a while to engage, especially when it felt like yesterday was a bunch of conversation with little said.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:39
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Where did he say that yesterday?
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ljtrigirl posted:What changed your mind on him? After I had some time to think about it away from the thread, I realized it was pretty likely Met would give him a role like that to be funny after a different recent game. That doesn't make him town though, and I still think cuddling him was the right move. But it didn't get traction. Not enough would vote with me and I think he's likely 3p or unaligned and not actually scum, so there are better fish to fry. I'll still hop on when the time comes if that is where the consensus is, though.
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