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Takoluka: Jun 26, 2009; Don't look at me!

Gyra_Solune posted:

i still don't get what this is from

# ? Sep 8, 2015 13:15

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:51

Hadaka Apron: Feb 12, 2015

Oh Christ, is the doppelganger supposed to be Nyarlathotep?

# ? Sep 8, 2015 18:36

HellCopter: Feb 9, 2012; College Slice

No, she's supposed to be a doppelganger. We already have a Nyarlathotep girl show, and I daresay one is enough.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 21:07

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

HellCopter posted:

No, she's supposed to be a doppelganger. We already have a Nyarlathotep girl show, and I daresay one is enough.

Bad news

# ? Sep 8, 2015 21:57

Gyra_Solune: Apr 24, 2014; Kyun kyun
Kyun kyun
Watashi no kare wa louse

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Bad news

haha i love how goddamn smug she is

'sup bitches look at my ghost throne, imma turn into a t-rex tonight or some poo poo who knows'

# ? Sep 8, 2015 22:06

Smoking Crow: Feb 14, 2012; *laughs at u*

I've been inspired by the biology posts itt, so here goes something

How Close Are Your Favorite Monster Girls to Their Mythological Counterparts? Part 1: When is a Snake Girl Not a Snake Girl

In the show, Miia is a lamia. In Greco-Roman folklore, Lamia (Λαμια, lone-shark) was the queen of Libya. She was the beautiful daughter of Poseidon and her beauty caught the eye of Zeus. Their pairing led to children. Once Hera learned about this, she took Lamia's children away from her. In her immense grief, she became savage and cruel, stealing people's children in order to eat them. This cruelty made her permanently disfigured, with a giant mouth like a shark. As a consolation gift, Zeus gave Lamia the ability to take her eyes out of the sockets and put them back in without any injury.

In later times, Lamia was conceived as a boogeyman who would steal and eat children who misbehaved. Even later, she multiplied and became the lamiai, beautiful phantoms who would seduce men and eat their flesh.

Have you noticed something here? Nowhere in ancient texts is Lamia described as being a snake-woman. This comes from the poetry of John Keats who in his poem, "Lamia" writes,

John Keats posted:

She was a gordian shape of dazzling hue,
Vermilion-spotted, golden, green, and blue;
Striped like a zebra, freckled like a pard,
Eyed like a peacock, and all crimson barr�d;
And full of silver moons, that, as she breathed,
Dissolv�d, or brighter shone, or interwreathed
Their lustres with the gloomier tapestries�
So rainbow-sided, touch�d with miseries,
She seem�d, at once, some penanced lady elf,
Some demon�s mistress, or the demon�s self.
Upon her crest she wore a wannish fire
Sprinkled with stars, like Ariadne�s tiar:
Her head was serpent, but ah, bitter-sweet!
She had a woman�s mouth with all its pearls complete:
And for her eyes: what could such eyes do there
But weep, and weep, that they were born so fair?
As Proserpine still weeps for her Sicilian air.

However, in this poem, she has the head of a serpent on a woman's body instead of a woman's torso on a snake body. The question still stands, where does our friend Miia come from?

The answer comes from across the globe. In Vedic religions (Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism), there are a class of beings called the Naga. They are beautiful half-cobra, half-human hybrids with the power to become either completely snake or completely human, although they prefer to be in a snake/human hybrid form. They are usually beneficial to humans, only attacking evil people and those destined to die premature deaths. The Nagi, female naga, are incredibly beautiful snake princesses. In antiquity, many South Asian dynasties claimed descent from the union of a mythic ancestor and a nagi.

Still doesn't explain why she has pointed ears though

How to make Miia more true to the folklore
Call her a Naga. That's it.

Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Sep 9, 2015

# ? Sep 8, 2015 23:14

Brutal Garcon: Nov 2, 2014

Smoking Crow posted:

How Close Are Your Favorite Monster Girls to Their Mythological Counterparts? Part 1: When is a Snake Girl Not a Snake Girl

Call her a Naga. That's it.

You'd expect her to be a better swimmer then.

This is a good idea, keep it up. (What are you going to do about Rachnee?)

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:05

Smoking Crow: Feb 14, 2012; *laughs at u*

Dzhay posted:

You'd expect her to be a better swimmer then.

This is a good idea, keep it up. (What are you going to do about Rachnee?)

jorogumo

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:08

no go on Quiznos: May 16, 2007; Pork Pro

Smoking Crow posted:

I've been inspired by the biology posts itt, so here goes something

How Close Are Your Favorite Monster Girls to Their Mythological Counterparts? Part 1: When is a Snake Girl Not a Snake Girl

I don't think the author looked at mythology for any of the girls. I think he just cracked open a copy of Final Fantasy.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:13

Command Ant: Aug 9, 2010; I can make you
worth your weight
in gold!

Wow, this episode really went to town on the bondage.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:17

Kyte: Nov 19, 2013; Never quacked for this

Silver95280 posted:

I don't think the author looked at mythology for any of the girls. I think he just cracked open a copy of Final Fantasy.

The concept has been a bit of a riff on jRPG tropes since the beginning, anyways.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:19

Twiddy: May 17, 2008; To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

Smoking Crow posted:

How to make Miia more true to the folklore
Call her a Naga. That's it.

Where's the actual oldest description of a Lamia specifically as the snake woman we know today? If it's DnD, then I got nothing, but if it came from Eastern games than maybe it was just an attempt to localize Naga?

Any older than like 1980s and I got no clue.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:20

everythingWasBees: Jan 9, 2013

I'll update the OP for this by next Tuesday.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 00:57

everythingWasBees: Jan 9, 2013

Also make it a Monstergirl General thread because it's a crime we don't have one.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 01:00

Smoking Crow: Feb 14, 2012; *laughs at u*

Twiddy posted:

Where's the actual oldest description of a Lamia specifically as the snake woman we know today? If it's DnD, then I got nothing, but if it came from Eastern games than maybe it was just an attempt to localize Naga?

Any older than like 1980s and I got no clue.

It wasn't' in D&D because D&D lamias looks like this in early editions slightly NSFW

I might actually be Final Fantasy or Megami Tensei that burned the hot snake chick in our brains. In this form, they resemble Lilith or Tiamat more than Lamia, though

# ? Sep 9, 2015 01:17

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Command Ant posted:

Wow, this episode really went to town on the bondage.

This shot might as well have had a little note saying "will not be cropped on the bluray release"

# ? Sep 9, 2015 05:58

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

boom boom boom posted:

This shot might as well have had a little note saying "will not be cropped on the bluray release"

I'm happy for you.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 07:56

Lepecard: May 19, 2009; Soiled Meat

drat, I hope that isn't all we get to see and sorta' hear from Polt this season.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 11:20

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

Was it just me, or did the direction seem unusually strange and disjointed this episode?

# ? Sep 9, 2015 13:27

Command Ant: Aug 9, 2010; I can make you
worth your weight
in gold!

drilldo squirt posted:

I'm hapi for you.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 14:00

Darth Windu: Mar 17, 2009; by Smythe

hapi papi

# ? Sep 9, 2015 14:43

Brutal Garcon: Nov 2, 2014

everythingWasBees posted:

I'll update the OP for this by next Tuesday.

This is a good idea.

everythingWasBees posted:

Also make it a Monstergirl General thread because it's a crime we don't have one.

This is perhaps a less good idea. Mainly in terms of the discussions it would likely foster.
(Also, what else would it be about? Actually, I am a... already has its own thread, and that isn't really the point of Overlord. That Bird Cafe manga?)

# ? Sep 9, 2015 21:24

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Dzhay posted:

This is a good idea.

This is perhaps a less good idea. Mainly in terms of the discussions it would likely foster.
(Also, what else would it be about? Actually, I am a... already has its own thread, and that isn't really the point of Overlord. That Bird Cafe manga?)

Uh dude,

http://www.amazon.com/Centaurs-Life-Vol-1/dp/1937867919/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1441831001&sr=8-6&keywords=daily+centaur+life

http://www.amazon.com/Nurse-Hitomis-Monster-Infirmary-Vol/dp/1626921474/ref=pd_sim_14_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F4WZHD14PMKZHC9J02X

http://www.amazon.com/12-Beast-Vol-1-OKAYADO/dp/1626921776/ref=pd_sim_14_22?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F4WZHD14PMKZHC9J02X

monster girl mangas are blowing up!

# ? Sep 9, 2015 21:37

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Looking at 12 beast, I don't think I like it when harpies have arms and wings

# ? Sep 9, 2015 21:40

Admoon: Oct 29, 2009

A very minor thing that's been bugging me... Isn't the show called Monster Musume? The title says Monster Monsume which to me just sounds like Monster Monster Musume. I believe the correct portmanteau is MonMusu so not only is the nickname wrong, you're using the nickname together with the full title.

Maybe I'm an idiot and have it all wrong but titles are important!!

# ? Sep 9, 2015 21:51

Brutal Garcon: Nov 2, 2014

boom boom boom posted:

Uh dude,

http://www.amazon.com/Centaurs-Life-Vol-1/dp/1937867919/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1441831001&sr=8-6&keywords=daily+centaur+life

http://www.amazon.com/Nurse-Hitomis-Monster-Infirmary-Vol/dp/1626921474/ref=pd_sim_14_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F4WZHD14PMKZHC9J02X

http://www.amazon.com/12-Beast-Vol-1-OKAYADO/dp/1626921776/ref=pd_sim_14_22?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F4WZHD14PMKZHC9J02X

monster girl mangas are blowing up!

Oh yeah, forgot about the centaur one.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 21:56

everythingWasBees: Jan 9, 2013

Tenative List:
Centaur's Worries
Hitomi
T-Rex girl
Dragon Maid
Gochika
the one about the long neck girl
the one about the girls who are fish
bird cafe
ikamusume
12 beast i guess even though it's kinda awful
a few more i have and then links to other related threads

# ? Sep 9, 2015 22:03

everythingWasBees: Jan 9, 2013

Admoon posted:

A very minor thing that's been bugging me... Isn't the show called Monster Musume? The title says Monster Monsume which to me just sounds like Monster Monster Musume. I believe the correct portmanteau is MonMusu so not only is the nickname wrong, you're using the nickname together with the full title.

Maybe I'm an idiot and have it all wrong but titles are important!!

Nah I hosed up but didn't care enough to fix it because :effort:

# ? Sep 9, 2015 22:07

Starsnostars: Jan 17, 2009; The Master of Magnetism

I like the thread's title, it look like it was written by Papi.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 11:58

K. Flaps: Dec 7, 2012; by Athanatos

everythingWasBees posted:

Tenative List:
Centaur's Worries
Hitomi
T-Rex girl
Dragon Maid
Gochika
the one about the long neck girl
the one about the girls who are fish
bird cafe
ikamusume
12 beast i guess even though it's kinda awful
a few more i have and then links to other related threads

Monster Girl Quest.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 12:22

Ragnar34: Oct 10, 2007; Lipstick Apathy

everythingWasBees posted:

Also make it a Monstergirl General thread because it's a crime we don't have one.

Ohio Gozaimas, Something Awful! Long time lurker, first time poster. Just saw that you guys finally made a monster girl thread, which is relevant to my interests.

I will now post my monster girl image folder. :nws:

signed,
sephirothwasright88

# ? Sep 10, 2015 12:36

Takoluka: Jun 26, 2009; Don't look at me!

K. Flaps posted:

Monster Girl Quest.

Oh, K. Flaps. Brave K. Flaps...

# ? Sep 10, 2015 13:38

dipple: Oct 22, 2008

everythingWasBees posted:

Tenative List:
Centaur's Worries
Hitomi
T-Rex girl
Dragon Maid
Gochika
the one about the long neck girl
the one about the girls who are fish
bird cafe
ikamusume
12 beast i guess even though it's kinda awful
a few more i have and then links to other related threads

Does anyone in-universe see Gochika's humanized form? not sure if that counts

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:04

Knorth: Aug 19, 2014; Buglord

everythingWasBees posted:

the one about the girls who are fish

What is this one and is it any good?

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:08

PrinnySquadron: Dec 8, 2009

Anko of the Deep Sea Fish I imagine. It's pretty decent iirc.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:35

Knorth: Aug 19, 2014; Buglord

PrinnySquadron posted:

Anko of the Deep Sea Fish I imagine. It's pretty decent iirc.

Thanks!

Oh! It's cute! I like Otomi's enthusiasm about mermaids

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:57

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

PrinnySquadron posted:

Anko of the Deep Sea Fish I imagine. It's pretty decent iirc.

There's something weirdly reassuring about the author demonstrating they know how to draw hideous, freakish deep-sea fish before transforming them into moe schoolgirls who vaguely resemble them.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 15:12