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2nd playthrough - actually went through the whole thing where the lads kill some time before lifting the curse on the thing. (First time around I let Geralt have a reasonably early night). This easily trumps the bit in TW2 where Gerald ends up with that tattoo - which I never got rid of and from which I used the savegame so he's still reprezentin' the Blue Stripes.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Honestly, I read the books (that are in English of course) between playing the W2 and W3 and somewhat regret my decision to let Philipa live. Phillipa lives no matter your choices at the end of W2. You're maybe thinking of Sile in the Iorveth path, who's death you do determine (or not). Anyway, am I the only one who really likes Phillipa as a character? I think she's an amazingly fun antagonist and find her really dry, northern British, nanny knows best attitude and humour to be a great foil for the other characters. She's like Mary Poppins gone power mad and bad. She's great fun to read about and play against.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 13:34 |
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:There's no such thing as 'good guys' or 'bad guys'. It's a core theme. Oh, I dunno. Bonhart and Vilgefortz were pretty universally bad. Looking at this game specifically, Eredin is also just a bad guy without much else going on.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 13:49 |
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Eredin has his people to defend, and plays into "a general knows what's best for the nation" cliche.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 13:53 |
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Pretty sure he never says anything like that and there's literally nothing in either the games or the books that I can think of that play into that seriously his whole thing is being a dick and killing the old king edit: oh yeah and Whoreson Junior Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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If I were in charge of one of the expansion packs, it would be Geralt putting his swords away, realizing that he's not really doing any good. He then meets up with Corrine Tilly and they open Novigrad's first licensed therapist. Sarah the Godling is the receptionist.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 14:12 |
The whole "No one is a good guy" things rings true, but at the same time it is certainly a measure of degrees. Geralt may respond to everything from roving bands of looters to a bad haircut with fire and sword, but at the same time the "bad guys" are so comically over the top evil that he isn't too far off the mark from it. Seriously, bandits talk about rape and pillaging so much that I think they may be half orc
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 14:17 |
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It's on par with what bandits and deserters did when there were noone to enforce law. Organized conduct of war is pretty new thing, winning hearts and minds even newer. I've read a story that some mounted units' solders could grab a peasant woman, rape her and leave her all while on horseback, and it was mentioned as a superior show of skills. Peasants were barely considered human.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 14:25 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:Oh, I dunno. Bonhart and Vilgefortz were pretty universally bad. Looking at this game specifically, Eredin is also just a bad guy without much else going on. I figured that Comte meant groups, which is why you can have Geralt get involved and be the good guy, for all the loving good it will do. I do wish Eredin had more depth. Or at least, after you beat him, show his home and ask, you're really dooming us to die in the cold? What did you expect us to do?
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 14:42 |
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:If I were in charge of one of the expansion packs, it would be Geralt putting his swords away, realizing that he's not really doing any good. He then meets up with Corrine Tilly and they open Novigrad's first licensed therapist. Sarah the Godling is the receptionist. Who do we have to get sacked from CDPR to make this happen?
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 14:44 |
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I think the notion in fiction and in real life that there's "no good or bad guys" can be a bit overstated at times. Even if traditional Manichean good vs evil narratives don't really apply, there are, individually, definitely people who have very little to recommend them and people who generally have good intentions and do little harm to anyone. I mean, in both this game and in real life, there are people like Whoreson Junior whose primary joy is raping and killing people who are weaker than them in some way. Are those not bad guys? Those kinds of people may have complex thoughts and feelings, but that does little to change the fact that they are serial predators. Edit: Didn't see Twobirds' post before I posted, if we're talking groups then maybe I get it.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 14:46 |
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Who do we have to get sacked from CDPR to make this happen? Probably everyone.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 15:00 |
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You'd just spend all day casting Axii on everyone anyway
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 15:14 |
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Radovid and co and the witch hunters also fall into the plain evil in my opinion, no shades of gray there either.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 15:18 |
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There's no good groups, only good people, was a persistent theme in the books as well.Helith posted:Phillipa lives no matter your choices at the end of W2. You're maybe thinking of Sile in the Iorveth path, who's death you do determine (or not). I despise Philippa as a person but she's great fun as a character. Avalerion posted:Radovid and co and the witch hunters also fall into the plain evil in my opinion, no shades of gray there either. Tamara and her commander are ok.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 17:01 |
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And Radovid might be a total dick, but given his history, and the fact every Sorceress he knows seems to inevitably go power mad, is it any surprise he has the views he does?
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 17:16 |
Shockeh posted:And Radovid might be a total dick, but given his history, and the fact every Sorceress he knows seems to inevitably go power mad, is it any surprise he has the views he does? That is another factor in the whole good vs evil thing, that a large number of the people think that they are doing the "right" thing. It is just a matter of perspective
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 17:20 |
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Radovid and Whoreson are both quite obviously mentally ill.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 17:23 |
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Didn't Whoreson Junior's father abuse him horribly or something? I swear I remember that being implied at some point. Not that that's really an excuse. Just an explanation.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 18:15 |
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I distinctly remember during my first playthrough finding a magic circle on top of a watchtower in Novigrad, similar in appearance to the one you activate to get inside the Tyromancer cave. It didn't do anything, but Geralt had a comment when you tried to interact with it, I think. When Avallach quest started I thought it would come into play, but no. Now in NG+ I'm trying to find it again, but have no idea where it was. I thought it was the tower near Tretogor gate, but there's nothing at the top
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 18:15 |
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New Extra Credits episode talks about romance in Witcher 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6PUReOuHVw Swedish Horror fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:Pretty sure he never says anything like that and there's literally nothing in either the games or the books that I can think of that play into that Eh, I dunno if he "killed" the old king. Sure, he got the poison and wanted Ciri to slip it in his drink, but she didn't. It's never mentioned how the king got it, and the story reads like he took it willingly, because he's tired of living, and because he's so geriatric elfy that he can't get it up anyway. No sense going on living. And ofc, because Ciri's humanity loving disgusts him so much, it's almost as if somebody asked him to gently caress a baboon
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 19:09 |
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It's never outright stated in the books, much like the Wild Hunt being Eredin's dudes.Swedish Horror posted:New Extra Credits episode talks about romance in Witcher 3 The Sharmat fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Sep 16, 2015 |
# ? Sep 16, 2015 19:51 |
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I only now noticed that BenBuja released one of his game blooper videos with Witcher 3. I'm sure many of these glitches happened to pretty much anybody who played the game for a longer time but there are still some surprises (lol at repeatedly casting Aard on a hangman). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD2hR3h6i4I
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 21:37 |
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:There's no such thing as 'good guys' or 'bad guys'. It's a core theme. I'd believe this, except it's a setting that includes both Philippa and Vilgefortz. And I totally agree with Philippa being evil Mary Poppins. It's great.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 21:37 |
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I never actually felt like Phillipa was evil. As Geralt, I disagree with her actions and in many ways hate her for the consequences her actions bring down upon everyone around her. But to paint her as evil isn't entirely true. At heart, she believes that she knows what's best for the world, with of course a considerable bias toward mages in general and sorceresses in particular. I can understand forming the Lodge to influence politics. I can even understand assassinating Demevend - she ordered his assassination in hopes of installing Saskia in a free Vergen state, an unquestionably better alternative to the feudal, racist shithole that is the world. She's an idealist who wants the world to be a peaceful utopia for all, not realizing that her goal is unattainable and her methods end up fueling more hatred toward mages. Speaking of which, how the hell does Phillipa, perhaps the oldest and most experienced sorceress, end up being so naive about the consequences her actions might cause? It's like she never thinks more than two steps ahead at most.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 23:06 |
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l33t b4c0n posted:She's an idealist who wants the world to be a peaceful utopia for all, not realizing that her goal is unattainable and her methods end up fueling more hatred toward mages. l33t b4c0n posted:Speaking of which, how the hell does Phillipa, perhaps the oldest and most experienced sorceress, end up being so naive about the consequences her actions might cause? It's like she never thinks more than two steps ahead at most.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 23:43 |
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Phillipa's ending in the books is her getting tortured to death by that priest guy. Also nothing she ever does really works out well for her.JaucheCharly posted:Eh, I dunno if he "killed" the old king. Sure, he got the poison and wanted Ciri to slip it in his drink, but she didn't. It's never mentioned how the king got it, and the story reads like he took it willingly, because he's tired of living, and because he's so geriatric elfy that he can't get it up anyway. No sense going on living. And ofc, because Ciri's humanity loving disgusts him so much, it's almost as if somebody asked him to gently caress a baboon He absolutely did
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 07:15 |
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While I'm waiting for that book getting translated, isn't the basic premise that Eredin may have slipped a little too much aphrodisiac and Auberon OD'd on elven Viagra as far as anyone knows for sure?
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 08:24 |
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I'm still not that far into the game, I'm not finding a happy medium to control it. With the mouse and keyboard Geralt seems to go from a dead stop to a full sprint all the time and it feels like he's ice-skating around the world. Plus combat feels a bit off. With a 360 controller combat feels better but everything out of combat feels worse, with seemingly random character momentum when moving around and weird camera problems like not being able to pan down to examine something. Are there some settings changes I should play around with to try and find a happy medium? I'm enjoying the game so far, but goddamn I want to punch the controls.
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AlmightyPants posted:I'm still not that far into the game, I'm not finding a happy medium to control it. With the mouse and keyboard Geralt seems to go from a dead stop to a full sprint all the time and it feels like he's ice-skating around the world. Plus combat feels a bit off. With a 360 controller combat feels better but everything out of combat feels worse, with seemingly random character momentum when moving around and weird camera problems like not being able to pan down to examine something. Are there some settings changes I should play around with to try and find a happy medium? I'm enjoying the game so far, but goddamn I want to punch the controls. Have you tried the alternative movement style? It's under game options.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 17:52 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:Phillipa's ending in the books is her getting tortured to death by that priest guy. Also nothing she ever does really works out well for her. That flash forward was many, many years in the future. Also the only reason the Lodge went tits up in the game was because an amnesiac sorceress with the identity of every member buried in her mind fell into Nilfgaard's lap.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 19:04 |
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I think I have a bug in game where fist fighting does no damage (no hit collision), can't find any posts about it anywhere. Anyone else have this problem? The only time fists fight work are in the fist-fighting quest.
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Palpek posted:That would be like Geralt turning into a Bond villain. I recommend finding the witcher mutation lab close to Kaer Morhen, Geralt has nothing but some insane brutal memories to share there. Geralt rejects Wormhole orphans to Kaer Morden and train them! Jack of Hearts posted:I know Lambert is a bro and everything, but between his "hilarious" bandit story, and his willingness to kill innocent(ish) trolls, it seems to me he's only maybe two pitchfork incidents away from ending up like Cat School guy. Yea everyone loves Lambert but I guess they just skipped over the story where he mind rapes one of the bandits into killing his buddies before killing him. That is infinitely more hosed up to me. Cat school Witcher did nothing wrong
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 01:14 |
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Uh I have bandits kill their buddies all the time.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 01:22 |
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I don't love Lambert. I find him kind of whiny and off-putting. I mean I get why he is the way he is, and I wouldn't change his character. But he's not remotely one of my favorites. The bandit thing didn't bother me much besides the Axii sign being acknowledged as some kind of hugely powerful Jedi mind trick deal which kind of clashes with what's established the rest of the time for the setting in regards to mind control spells. And morally, I don't think it's bad. I mean, they did intend to rob or kill him.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 01:27 |
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I don't remember Axii much in the books at all. I dunno how you'd peg Philippa for an idealist unless you take her at her word. Or you realize her ideal world is a sorceress-led society with her in charge. Which would probably bore her after like 2 weeks because she'd have no one to scheme against. Her ironic twilight zone hell would be a Lodge (populated only by copies of Triss) that rules the North with no Geralt, Yennefer or Nilfgaard around.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 04:53 |
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Spite posted:I don't remember Axii much in the books at all. Spite posted:I dunno how you'd peg Philippa for an idealist unless you take her at her word. Or you realize her ideal world is a sorceress-led society with her in charge. Which would probably bore her after like 2 weeks because she'd have no one to scheme against. Her ironic twilight zone hell would be a Lodge (populated only by copies of Triss) that rules the North with no Geralt, Yennefer or Nilfgaard around.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 05:16 |
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What happens to Keira if you let her go to Radovid?
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Baron Bifford posted:What happens to Keira if you let her go to Radovid?
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