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ayn rand hand job posted:on a recent wor, dave said that everyone hated sable after she left, but is on good terms now I just checked my copy of Titan Sinking and I was actually thinking of Sunny. She's actually described as one of the few people that Paul Bearer (who by all accounts was one of the nicest dudes ever) totally detested.
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I would feel uncomfortable if Brock Lesnar was ever referred as having some sort of relationship with someone who wasn't Paul heyman
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I remember the Paul Bearer/Jim Cornette shoot where Paul made it clear he didn't like Sunny, but even then was trying to stay nice. Which just made it even funnier when he flew the gently caress off on Kevin Dunn, no niceties for Bucky Beaver.
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DeathChicken posted:I remember the Paul Bearer/Jim Cornette shoot where Paul made it clear he didn't like Sunny, but even then was trying to stay nice. Which just made it even funnier when he flew the gently caress off on Kevin Dunn, no niceties for Bucky Beaver. I remembered seeing that. It looked like Paul was waiting a good long time to get that off his chest.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Savio's best match was with Austin anyway, their strap match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrgPa_6WAc8
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You can still see the WWE trying to get a new Ahmed, notably with Bobby Lashley, Ezekiel Jackson and pre-New Day Big E. But yeah he was really over and would have probably won the WWF title before his injury.
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It's funny that the grassroots support of Austin was starting to emerge at the same time and it's clear that they had MUCH bigger plans for Ahmed than him
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Numero6 posted:You can still see the WWE trying to get a new Ahmed, notably with Bobby Lashley, Ezekiel Jackson and pre-New Day Big E. What is/was stopping those three being it? Couldn't speak/too injured, too injured, too short, respectively?
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Numero6 posted:You can still see the WWE trying to get a new Ahmed, notably with Bobby Lashley, Ezekiel Jackson and pre-New Day Big E. Apollo Crews will fulfill the Ahmed Prophecy.
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Lashley had the misfortune of having a comical voice, a non-threatening face, being completely rejected by the crowd at December to Dismember, and being the most obvious roid monster on the roster in the wake of the Benoit double-murder-suicide, when the company was facing a lot of media scrutiny about steroid abuse among other things Zeke had a big push lined up about three different times; I know the very last time circa 2012-2013 he blew it by bragging constantly in the locker room, leading to a fight that he took the blame for (AKA what happened to Alex Riley's babyface push from 2011). Triple H was never behind Big E as a top dude. Anyway I don't think Vince looks at those guys and sees his ultimate black mastodon, he just has a childish fascination with size. Like a seven-year-old, he looks at the largest and most muscular wrestlers and thinks they're obviously the best; some of these guys also happen to not be white! DynamiteKidd fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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I still maintain Big E could have been a big deal if they had got behind him as a singles dude  But then we wouldn't have got New Day...
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projecthalaxy posted:Apollo Crews will fulfill the Ahmed Prophecy. every day that Crews is in developmental is further proof that Vince doesn't watch NXT
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I kind of liked the "Marvelous" Marc Mero run for some reason.
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Mero's a shithead, but his pre knee injury work is very good.
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Alain Post posted:I kind of liked the "Marvelous" Marc Mero run for some reason. Well, everything he did as both JBB and as Marc "Just a Guy" Mero was enhanced by the fact that he won a lot. It wasn't until his last year in WWF that he suddenly became a job guy.
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Memento posted:What is/was stopping those three being it? Couldn't speak/too injured, too injured, too short, respectively? Lashley was pretty boring and was constantly booked as a nice guy and not as a non-nonsense badass, I mean TNA booked him better as a monster heel. Zeke wasn't really charismatic and wrestled in a boring style, he was better in ECW when he had more leeway. Big E was forced to play a strong silent character which wasn't his forte and he got that IC title curse. He def got better now but he's now kind of a joke guy. His finisher sucks too, Ahmed had the Tiger Driver not a weird looking thing.
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The lack of reaction to Big E bums me out because he seems so willing to kill himself for the sake of the fans yet got little response for it. That through the ropes spear he does on a regular basis is ridiculous.
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Spermgod posted:It's funny that the grassroots support of Austin was starting to emerge at the same time and it's clear that they had MUCH bigger plans for Ahmed than him Coincidentally, Austin 3:16 and Ahmed winning the ic title happened on the same show. Had Ahmed stayed healthy, he was going to be the guy. If Ahmed was the guy, does the Attitude Era ever happen?
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I want to live in the alternate universe where WCW won the Monday Night Wars
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Smoking Crow posted:I want to live in the alternate universe where WCW won the Monday Night Wars So the universe where Vince signs Tank Abbott in 1997?
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Tank Abbott is entered in Brawl For All, hilarity ensues.
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remusclaw posted:The lack of reaction to Big E bums me out because he seems so willing to kill himself for the sake of the fans yet got little response for it. That through the ropes spear he does on a regular basis is ridiculous. That period where he was busting opponents' lips on a weekly basis couldn't have helped.
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DeathChicken posted:Tank Abbott is entered in Brawl For All, hilarity ensues. ROUND 1: Bart Gunn dies
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Defiance Industries posted:ROUND 1: Bart Gunn dies Of course he does. Never bring a Gunn to a Tank fight.
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Xerzes posted:That period where he was busting opponents' lips on a weekly basis couldn't have helped. It ain't ballet.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Coincidentally, Austin 3:16 and Ahmed winning the ic title happened on the same show. Had Ahmed stayed healthy, he was going to be the guy. I think things would progress sort of as Roman and Dean have evolved, that is "the guy you like, dammit, and his zany friend." Although it could also have gone "Instead of the Rock here's Ahmed Johnson yeah good luck buddy"
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Spermgod posted:It's funny that the grassroots support of Austin was starting to emerge at the same time and it's clear that they had MUCH bigger plans for Ahmed than him I honestly believe that if the WWF had never been in danger because of WCW, you never would have seen the rise of people like Austin, Rock, or Mankind.
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Sometimes I wonder what the business would look like today if Vince had doubled down on Rocky Maivia instead of letting The Rock grow organically
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Jay 2K Winger posted:Of course he does. Never bring a Gunn to a Tank fight. Nice
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Benne posted:Sometimes I wonder what the business would look like today if Vince had doubled down on Rocky Maivia instead of letting The Rock grow organically Vince doesn't believe in letting any wrestler grow organically unless Congress has its eye on him.
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I dont know if this is the right thread but somebody leaked the old WCW Talent Contracts https://www.scribd.com/doc/282738951/WCW-Talent-Contract-Database Interesting to see that Flair only made 500k while Nash, Sting and Hall made 1,5mill each
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It's probably from that racism lawsuit since it's dated 2000? Someone's been going through and posting interesting things from the filings on Scribd. I think my favorite things are "Hulk Hogan - see contract" and "Dillinger, Doug - Merch. agreement only" e: no, it's actually GLENN making $300,000 a year. e2: I was really wrong: THE CAT made $400,000 a year and Ric Flair made $500,000 a year!!! Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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remusclaw posted:The lack of reaction to Big E bums me out because he seems so willing to kill himself for the sake of the fans yet got little response for it. That through the ropes spear he does on a regular basis is ridiculous. Or that body splash to the apron he's doing recently. Looks like it kills the dude taking it.
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's probably from that racism lawsuit since it's dated 2000? Someone's been going through and posting interesting things from the filings on Scribd. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Tank Abbott $650,000 a year whattttttt
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's probably from that racism lawsuit since it's dated 2000? Someone's been going through and posting interesting things from the filings on Scribd. Didnt Hogan have a direct contract with some smaller Turner company that paid him?
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TheCool69 posted:I dont know if this is the right thread but somebody leaked the old WCW Talent Contracts lol they didn't print Hogan's salary even in the private salary database
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I read that entire list, and man oh man were people making even more than I thought. Ralphus had a downside of $78,000 for christ's sake. Most the Nitro Girls didn't make a living wage, though.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:I read that entire list, and man oh man were people making even more than I thought. Ralphus had a downside of $78,000 for christ's sake. Most Nitro Girls were only working like once a week, right?
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ayn rand hand job posted:Most Nitro Girls were only working like once a week, right? Some of them have appearance fees for house shows, but I have zero idea if they appeared at house shows ever.
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