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Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
Valve is so rich that they can basically fart around doing whatever they want until the end of the time so they spend all their time loving around with VR and multiplayer and further gamifying the Steam platform because that what they're interested in now.

Considering how now matter what Valve do they get poo poo for it (they get made fun of for taking too long to make Half-Life sequels but then the internet poo poo its pants with rage when L4D2 came out "only" a year after the original) I can't blame them for not really being interested in making sequels.

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IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

I think they just wanted to finish work on Source Engine 2 before they made a new Half-Life, and now they are probably working on some VR games.

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
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Nuebot posted:

So I learned a neat little trick that I like a lot for an annoying mission, thanks to a bug in MGSV.
So at one point there's a mission where you have to escort some child soldiers out of a battle field, it's a pain in the rear end because if they die you get a game over and you have to carry one. Right at the end the AI messed up and they stopped moving so I tried to see what would happen if I shot them all with tranqs and carried them to the chopper. It was fine. There's also a base right next to where you find them, with a landing point. You could cut the mission time for this in half just by clearing that base and calling in the helicopter and shoving all those little soldiers on in like ten seconds and getting the hell out of there. Spectacular.

:doh: I just did this and at the time didn't realize I could tranq them. Throughout the river part I keep thinking of a post about the mission that explained the easy way to do it (this post), but I was too lazy to look for it. And I had the stupid camp cleared out and anti-air radar destroyed and everything. Still got S rank but took an extra 20-30 minutes because I was going for no kills/no combat alerts ugh.

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away

IShallRiseAgain posted:

I think they just wanted to finish work on Source Engine 2 before they made a new Half-Life, and now they are probably working on some VR games.

Surprise: if you have most of your programmers working on a new engine, progress on un-programmed games suffers.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
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I'm not waiting for Half-Life 3. I just want the third episode of Half-Life 2.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

StandardVC10 posted:

OTOH, Episode 3/HL3 has been in development limbo way longer than the Mass Effect 3 ending debacle has been a thing.

Episode 3 has been in development limbo longer than Mass Effect has been a thing.

pulp rag
Feb 25, 2013

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor
It doesn't help that Valve has no internal power structure, meaning people can work on literally whatever the gently caress they want, with zero people to tell them they gotta work on a certain thing.

This is why Valve has the worst customer service, like, ever.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

pulp rag posted:

It doesn't help that Valve has no internal power structure, meaning people can work on literally whatever the gently caress they want, with zero people to tell them they gotta work on a certain thing.

This is why Valve has the worst customer service, like, ever.

No kidding, I put in a support ticket like four or five months ago for something and just got a hit back for it yesterday and the response was basically "Well I guess you've got it all sorted out by now, sorry about the delay".

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


pulp rag posted:

It doesn't help that Valve has no internal power structure, meaning people can work on literally whatever the gently caress they want, with zero people to tell them they gotta work on a certain thing.

This is why Valve has the worst customer service, like, ever.

I know that's supposedly how their programmers work, but that can't apply across the board. They must have dedicated customer support people, right? Also, I assume that they don't have accountants and cleaners who just do whatever they feel like. "Oh, sorry about the toilets, I decided I'd just do break rooms and vacuuming from now on."

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Tiggum posted:

I know that's supposedly how their programmers work, but that can't apply across the board. :siren:They must have dedicated customer support people, right? :siren:Also, I assume that they don't have accountants and cleaners who just do whatever they feel like. "Oh, sorry about the toilets, I decided I'd just do break rooms and vacuuming from now on."
lol

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

Nuebot posted:

No kidding, I put in a support ticket like four or five months ago for something and just got a hit back for it yesterday and the response was basically "Well I guess you've got it all sorted out by now, sorry about the delay".

Hah, I made one over 4 months ago, last week they responded in same way and I had to wait extra 7 days til they did what I wanted.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Pretty much the only thing Valve cares about now these days is selling you overpriced virtual hats, keys, and gun skins in their free-to-play games.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Valve's refund service is actually really good, I thought for sure they'd refuse nearly every request since before they were perfectly happy to sell games that didn't work on modern systems without warning and refuse to issue refunds, but I requested two (RAGE had frame rate so bad as to be unplayable unless I put it on what as far as I can tell is the only other graphics setting, "we won't even bother loading textures," and Endless Legend crashed every time a new game finished loading) and I was notified that they'd been approved within two or three hours of putting the request in.

Then you have to wait like 5 days to actually get your money back, even if you just want store credit, but hey.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It's also another good way to very slowly launder money through Steam if that's what you're into. :v:

pulp rag
Feb 25, 2013

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor
That's what the cards are for.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Does google opinion rewards count as a game? Because it's certainly fun getting paid to put in lovely useless answers and it's a nice little thing that despite long periods of silence, presumably because of that, it occasionally forgets I'm a shitlord and pays me a little more.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Valve's refund service is actually really good, I thought for sure they'd refuse nearly every request since before they were perfectly happy to sell games that didn't work on modern systems without warning and refuse to issue refunds, but I requested two (RAGE had frame rate so bad as to be unplayable unless I put it on what as far as I can tell is the only other graphics setting, "we won't even bother loading textures," and Endless Legend crashed every time a new game finished loading) and I was notified that they'd been approved within two or three hours of putting the request in.

Then you have to wait like 5 days to actually get your money back, even if you just want store credit, but hey.

I assume Valve's refund service is good because, from what I've read anyway, valve keeps their share of the money but the publishers lose out or something. It usually comes back to them anyway, especially since most people are probably picking steam credit.

Anyway playing the English translation of Dragon Quest Monsters: Super light and I am loving these puns! "Dark King Up the Right Tree". :allears:

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Nuebot posted:

I assume Valve's refund service is good because, from what I've read anyway, valve keeps their share of the money but the publishers lose out or something. It usually comes back to them anyway, especially since most people are probably picking steam credit.

You've read wrong.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Sleeveless posted:

You've read wrong.

I am okay with this. My sources from what were a few crappy indie developers throwing fits about the refund service. I like that it makes them mad.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Nuebot posted:

I am okay with this. My sources from what were a few crappy indie developers throwing fits about the refund service. I like that it makes them mad.

I think they were just pissed off because convenient refunds mean that people won't be so willing to go "Well, it was poo poo, but I'm not going to make a fuss over $5."

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS
Another for the MGSV love fest;

Metal Gear Sahalanthropous' giant dick cannon.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

LumpyGumby posted:

Another for the MGSV love fest;

Metal Gear Sahalanthropous' giant dick cannon.

Uh, it's a flamethrower, jeez.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

I just started The Secret World yesterday, and one neat thing I liked is that your character's name doesn't have to be unique. In character creation you pick a first name, a last name, and a nickname. The nickname has to be unique since it's an MMO, but the first and last name don't have to be. I like that I can give my character a normal-rear end name so the dialogue isn't all "Nice to meet you, xXBladeLord23Xx. I have news for you."

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Shadowrun Hong Kong does something similar. You give your character both a call name and a real name, with NPCs using each depending on their relationship with you.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


In MGSV you get side missions to capture animals, eventually you get ones for a legendary jackal and a legendary ibis. When you capture them you get a bunch of Zone of the Enders stuff, like emblem materials and the ability to develop the "Hand of Jehuty" which lets you grab guys from a distance.

pulp rag
Feb 25, 2013

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor

Mokinokaro posted:

Shadowrun Hong Kong does something similar. You give your character both a call name and a real name, with NPCs using each depending on their relationship with you.

Gobbet will just call you "Seattle" all game if you don't tell her to call you by something else. I think you can have her call you by your real name, your handle, or just "boss".

Also, if you tell her you wanna change the name of the boat, if you go outside, you can notice that the new name has been quickly and shoddily painted over the old name.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
I picked up Dragonball Xenoverse today and I like it already, saving the day as a Female Majin Buu who is bright yellow in skin tone is pretty funny but having Krillin as your Trainer/Master is the best.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Destiny's main story is kinda dry, but the fluff dialogue and NPC quips are pretty amusing. However one thing I love above all else is that how it's canon the players, Guardians, are immortal, loot obsessed assholes who don't take anything seriously. A lot of the background story makes mention of their..."independent" nature in lieu of any serious military structure, and that their leaders have been forced to dangle items and equipment over their heads to get them to focus. Even the PVP arenas are strategic areas for the various factions but the only way they can get Guardians near them is by turning the things into gladiatorial arenas that offer...items and equipment for victory. :allears:

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
More MGSV brilliance. Everyone knows who awesome fultoning is, but I haven't seen this detail mentioned: Enemy soldiers scream when they get fultoned, but freed prisoners and wandering ex-MSF guys laugh and go "woohoo".

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum

AlphaKretin posted:

Does google opinion rewards count as a game? Because it's certainly fun getting paid to put in lovely useless answers and it's a nice little thing that despite long periods of silence, presumably because of that, it occasionally forgets I'm a shitlord and pays me a little more.

Haha I love those surveys.

When the California drought was starting to ramp up into "BIG PROBLEM" territory, I got a survey with the first question "Are you doing anything to conserve water?" My area (upstate NY) has lots of water, rivers and reservoirs out the rear end, so I hit 'No' and the rest of the survey had a distinct ":mad: Why not :mad:" vibe to it.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

poptart_fairy posted:

Destiny's main story is kinda dry, but the fluff dialogue and NPC quips are pretty amusing. However one thing I love above all else is that how it's canon the players, Guardians, are immortal, loot obsessed assholes who don't take anything seriously. A lot of the background story makes mention of their..."independent" nature in lieu of any serious military structure, and that their leaders have been forced to dangle items and equipment over their heads to get them to focus.

So basically they're Vault Hunters?

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

So basically they're Vault Hunters?

And Vault Hunters are basically DnD players. :v:

I dunno, I thought it was a pretty neat blending of game mechanics and story in a setting that's otherwise pretty po-faced.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

More MGSV brilliance. Everyone knows who awesome fultoning is, but I haven't seen this detail mentioned: Enemy soldiers scream when they get fultoned, but freed prisoners and wandering ex-MSF guys laugh and go "woohoo".

It's a bit older than that as the same thing happens when fultoning enemies/prisoners in Peace Walker.

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

So basically they're Vault Hunters?

When they give you a shotgun that you can lob at a flying enemy, have it track and continue firing at said enemy, and give you an achievement for having killed a number of enemies in this manner, then we can call them Vault Hunters.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

pulp rag posted:

Gobbet will just call you "Seattle" all game if you don't tell her to call you by something else. I think you can have her call you by your real name, your handle, or just "boss".

Also, if you tell her you wanna change the name of the boat, if you go outside, you can notice that the new name has been quickly and shoddily painted over the old name.
This endeared Gobbet to me more than most things would have, honestly.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

More MGSV brilliance. Everyone knows who awesome fultoning is, but I haven't seen this detail mentioned: Enemy soldiers scream when they get fultoned, but freed prisoners and wandering ex-MSF guys laugh and go "woohoo".
Later, when you build up your reputation and army more, enemies start doing this too. Sometimes when you hold them up they go "holy poo poo you really are Big Boss please please please recruit me pleeeease"

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
My fave MGSV moment is when you have to go recruit old mother base soldier, if you approach them normally it becomes a benny hill sequence, if you approach them in a box though they go "IS THAT YOU BOSS?" and it becomes trivial to recruit them.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Alteisen posted:

My fave MGSV moment is when you have to go recruit old mother base soldier, if you approach them normally it becomes a benny hill sequence, if you approach them in a box though they go "IS THAT YOU BOSS?" and it becomes trivial to recruit them.

Same if you play the cassette of Paz's humming over your iDroid's speakers.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Alteisen posted:

My fave MGSV moment is when you have to go recruit old mother base soldier, if you approach them normally it becomes a benny hill sequence, if you approach them in a box though they go "IS THAT YOU BOSS?" and it becomes trivial to recruit them.

I just tranq them in the head from a distance. Like everyone else.

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Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Same if you play the cassette of Paz's humming over your iDroid's speakers.

I didn't realize there was actually a use for the speaker, I will develop it now


Dewgy posted:

I just tranq them in the head from a distance. Like everyone else.

No, box all the way.

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