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OhDearGodNo posted:Refund issued, I'm completely free of this poo poo.  I was considering going for the refund on what I have left, but I decided to test the reddit waters first. My inbox is blowing the gently caress up. I had no idea the gray market was still this active.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Refund issued, I'm completely free of this poo poo. "I just got back my money from those scam artists... welp time to give it to the morally bankrupts idiots"
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Oct 8, 2015 12:28
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2DCAT posted:So... the last start up i invested in also turned to crowdfunding. Per the agreement, anything over the requested amount was considered 'profit' and as such, we got a percent. With that said, it's sounding like CR fleeced you. If they were seeking $20m, and they're at $90m now... the return on your investment should be astronomical. Similarly, I would have expected that they would have paid back your initial investment by now too (why haven't they? they've already made $70m in 'profit'). How do you not have your initial investment plus like 300% of what you put down on it back already? This entire thing is...odd... maybe video games are different than tangible goods? *shrugs* Yeah, even with stretch goals the target for development cost is the target for development cost. I don't actually see any reason why video games should be different in principle to any other pre-ordered physical good. Obviously there are practical differences in the product development cycle, but nothing that shouldn't mean that pre-orders equal revenue. CIG are selling product. It's product that they'll never be able to deliver, but that's why as a good capitalist you should be taking your share and running for the door.
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Hahaha, (Not quite to the moon though, what with the game not existing and all.)
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OhDearGodNo posted:Refund issued, I'm completely free of this poo poo. has the death thread taught you nothing
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Oct 8, 2015 12:35
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Alchenar posted:Yeah, even with stretch goals the target for development cost is the target for development cost. LOL, i ended up editing my post because I didn't want to have a serious post/discussion. But yeah, when I've done my VC stuff in the past it was 1) How long til I get my money back (we'll say a year) 2) I can safely get back 16% in the markets, explain to me how i get my money back plus 30% (or more, depending on how risky). I also want my money back before anyone else... so if they want to 'expand the scope' or any BS like that... cool, but i want my drat money back first plus my 30%. If they said they needed $20m to make a game and they're at $90m.... plus doing stuff like buying a $20k espresso machine and other crazy stuff. I'd be calling my lawyer because they're obviously profitable and they're doing stuff other than giving me my drat money.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:37
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OhDearGodNo posted:Refund issued, I'm completely free of this poo poo. Onmi posted:"I just got back my money from those scam artists... welp time to give it to the morally bankrupts idiots" Yeah. At least blow it on FFG X-Wing or something.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:46
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Bootcha is legit. bootcha pls dont kill yourself. itll be okay...somehow... 
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Oct 8, 2015 12:48
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Doctor Schnabel posted:bootcha pls dont kill yourself. itll be okay...somehow... No it wont, don't lie to him.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:49
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All we need is CROBERTS in here and we would have the best thread that ever threaded. pgabz: Where is my sexbot army transport, it has been like half a day. Quit loving off with my money. Wait. is that a Samsung espresso machine?
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Oct 8, 2015 12:52
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Doctor Schnabel posted:bootcha pls dont kill yourself. itll be okay...somehow... I think allegations of fraud and embezzlement justify a more serious inquiry.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:04
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2DCAT posted:If they said they needed $20m to make a game and they're at $90m.... plus doing stuff like buying a $20k espresso machine and other crazy stuff. I'd be calling my lawyer because they're obviously profitable and they're doing stuff other than giving me my drat money. I'd at least want some signed posters.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I think allegations of fraud and embezzlement justify a more serious inquiry.
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someone edit this gif so that Wingman gets bounced out of the frame into a better game
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Oct 8, 2015 13:23
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Onmi posted:This was on the cults Reddit They got it bang on for the backers 
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Oct 8, 2015 13:29
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I think allegations of fraud and embezzlement justify a more serious inquiry. In general they do, but especially if you are a VC. It's possible that something illegal happened with your money. I'd sure as hell want to know about it. I only invest in SPDR ETFs. 8 to 15% is fine with me.
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Bought in for like 30$ back in early 2014. Loaded up the launcher today for a laugh, due to reading this thread, for the first time since like nov/dec 2014, was greeted with the prospect of a 6-7 hour download that completely hogs every single drop of my internet bandwidth for the duration of the process. Said "no thanks" and uninstalled.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:30
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what the gently caress is up with fatso's t-rex arms?
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Tarranon posted:even beyond all these fun insider allegations the major press should be holding cig to the fire for the fan fiction they write every time a new ship come out. anyone with two brain cells to rub together and no vested interest in this scam thinks the feature creep is absolutely loving ridiculous, and it just gets worse every time they demo a new ship You people are working on old info. There have been no new stretch goals for about a year now. 64mil I believe, compared to being at 93mil now.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:37
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So the real jpeg name wasn't released yet? Beer, did you lie to us?
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Oct 8, 2015 13:37
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Erenthal posted:Bought in for like 30$ back in early 2014. It saved you from the buggy experience of watching your spaceship turn around in space. Would probably have more fun on the forums or watching spaceship infomercials.
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Agrajag posted:what the gently caress is up with fatso's t-rex arms? He's just not lifting his elbows. It's a horrifying level of obesity where the natural resting point for your upper arm is at a 45 degree angle to the ground.
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Gryphon0468 posted:You people are working on old info. There have been no new stretch goals for about a year now. 64mil I believe, compared to being at 93mil now. we have always been at war with eastasia
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Oct 8, 2015 13:40
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brakanjan posted:It saved you from the buggy experience of watching your spaceship turn around in space. Would probably have more fun on the forums or watching spaceship infomercials. I reinstalled Elite Dangerous instead. I bought into that during the same time, when I was really into space ship sims, but never really played more than a few hours until now. Tbh it's not really mindblowing fun, but it's okay and it's a game I can actually play as of this moment.
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Erenthal posted:I reinstalled Elite Dangerous instead. I bought into that during the same time, when I was really into space ship sims, but never really played more than a few hours until now. Tbh it's not really mindblowing fun, but it's okay and it's a game I can actually play as of this moment. dont forget your buttkicker.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:42
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Tarranon posted:or more like adults with real jobs that have real disposable income pay for poo poo Hahahahah.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:45
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Space Tittiesen.
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Onmi posted:This was on the cults Reddit And not, you know, the rantings of a couple of coked up lunatics who quite frankly doth protested just a little too loving much.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:50
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Erenthal posted:... that completely hogs every single drop of my internet bandwidth for the duration of the process. Said "no thanks" and uninstalled. There's a setting in the launcher to rate-limit the download, upper-right corner somewhere I think.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:52
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Agrajag posted:what the gently caress is up with fatso's t-rex arms? I just want to know how the gently caress he reaches his rear end to wipe? Or does he walk around the office stinking of poo poo? Do his colleagues predict his approach due to strength of odour and feedback from him walking?
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tooterfish posted:I don't know about you guys, but if there's one impression I got from the novel length letters from Ortwin and Chris, it was one of staunch professionalism in the face of ridiculous, shrill accusations. Psssht. I know when I get a mighty WALL OF TEXT in my email box that is indeed going to intimidate the hell out of me. I have to close my office door and yell it at myself so i can get the full effect as the writer intends. jeez people its about immersion.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:54
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Xaerael posted:I just want to know how the gently caress he reaches his rear end to wipe? Or does he walk around the office stinking of poo poo? Do his colleagues predict his approach due to strength of odour and feedback from him walking? Goon lore speaks of a tread that tried to answer the fat people making GBS threads question..... that only lead to madness.
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Offices buy coffee machines. Coffee machines cost that much. That's a reasonable expense. You need to provide your employees with some amenities so that they can work productively. Many people aren't aware of how much money companies spend on stuff like this and will lose their poo poo for no reason, so a full disclosure of financials isn't a great idea. Seriously, most offices have a coffee machine. There isn't anything wrong with this. The one in my office costs like $17k iirc.
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BexGu posted:Goon lore speaks of a tread that tried to answer the fat people making GBS threads question..... that only lead to madness. Hate leads to madness, madness leads to fecal lasagne. Also hilarity.
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quote:@Dsmart posts an average of 178.69 tweets per day. I spend a lot of my time shitposting, but that has to be some kind of record. Also, what if the ship's name was something else and after the reveal CIG changes it to Vindicator? 
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Oct 8, 2015 14:03
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Offices buy coffee machines. Coffee machines cost that much. That's a reasonable expense. You need to provide your employees with some amenities so that they can work productively. Many people aren't aware of how much money companies spend on stuff like this and will lose their poo poo for no reason, so a full disclosure of financials isn't a great idea. Most people in a position to be reading financials probably realise that though. This is the problem with terrible nerds blowing a grand on jpegs and thinking they're investment bankers now.
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Xaerael posted:I just want to know how the gently caress he reaches his rear end to wipe? Or does he walk around the office stinking of poo poo? Do his colleagues predict his approach due to strength of odour and feedback from him walking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfGXmxJ1vM
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Offices buy coffee machines. Coffee machines cost that much. That's a reasonable expense. You need to provide your employees with some amenities so that they can work productively. Many people aren't aware of how much money companies spend on stuff like this and will lose their poo poo for no reason, so a full disclosure of financials isn't a great idea. most offices are not publicly funded
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